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Plymouth or Rome??

Hiya guys :smile:

OK, so basically I'm going to be studying medicine this September (:biggrin:), following the most ridiculously long and arduous process of applying twice (and thinking I was going to have to apply again for a third time!). I currently have an unconditinal offer from Peninsula Medical School - great! you may say, you're sorted!

But no. It seems that I am now torn between going there or going to study medicine at La Sapienza University in Rome. Initially this was a back-up plan, but the more I looked into it the more I warmed to it, until now I am in this stupid position of not being able to decide which to go to!

There are distinct advantages and disadvantages to both, making it harder to weigh up all the factors together. To be honest though, I think I'm leaning towards Peninsula - maybe Rome is just a romantic and reckless notion that most sensible people wouldn't even consider...

I don't know. But any advice or input from you guys would be greatly appreciated! I don't have too long to make my mind up to be honest! :s-smilie:
Reply 1
Original post by TheProcrastinator
Hiya guys :smile:

OK, so basically I'm going to be studying medicine this September (:biggrin:), following the most ridiculously long and arduous process of applying twice (and thinking I was going to have to apply again for a third time!). I currently have an unconditinal offer from Peninsula Medical School - great! you may say, you're sorted!

But no. It seems that I am now torn between going there or going to study medicine at La Sapienza University in Rome. Initially this was a back-up plan, but the more I looked into it the more I warmed to it, until now I am in this stupid position of not being able to decide which to go to!

There are distinct advantages and disadvantages to both, making it harder to weigh up all the factors together. To be honest though, I think I'm leaning towards Peninsula - maybe Rome is just a romantic and reckless notion that most sensible people wouldn't even consider...

I don't know. But any advice or input from you guys would be greatly appreciated! I don't have too long to make my mind up to be honest! :s-smilie:


I did my BEng in Computer and Electrical Engineering at La Sapienza (so I don't think I'm gonna be much help, but still I know the city pretty well :biggrin:) and I'm gonna be starting an MSc in Software Engineering @ York :smile: in October.
If you need any advice feel free to PM me :smile:

Btw do you speak any Italian? 'Cause I imagine it'll be hard doing a degree in a foreign country even if the course is taught in English.

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Original post by lex25288
I did my BEng in Computer and Electrical Engineering at La Sapienza (so I don't think I'm gonna be much help, but still I know the city pretty well :biggrin:) and I'm gonna be starting an MSc in Software Engineering @ York :smile: in October.
If you need any advice feel free to PM me :smile:

Btw do you speak any Italian? 'Cause I imagine it'll be hard doing a degree in a foreign country even if the course is taught in English.

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Can I ask why you chose to go to Rome instead of studying in the UK? I'm assuming you're British - maybe you have an Italian parent or something?

And no I don't speak much Italian, though yes the course is taught in English. You receive Italian lessons on the side while studying; basically I'd have 3 years to become fluent before the clinical stages of the course start in earnest. A lot of people have told me that this will be enough time to learn, seeing as everybody around me will be speaking it as well. Would you disagree with that??

I am in fact going to Rome for 4 days on the 29th of this month - partly to check it out but also for a well-needed holiday! Its been on top of my must-visit list for a long time! I won't bother asking you whether you enjoy living there, as I reckon I can guess the answer :wink:
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I'm Italian, so I wouldn't really know how long it would take for someone who has never even studied it in college to become fluent in it.
The spelling is really easy and we don't have homophones. On the other hand, the grammar is dreadfully difficult. But, since you won't be studying the language in the UK and will be fully immersed in it, I guess learning it might be easier and it might even take less than 3 years (you'll find yourself desperately needing to speak the language properly when you want a bartender to give you all the booze you'll need to get pissed on night-outs ha ha ha ha ha :biggrin:).
Rome is amazing ... words can't even begin to describe. It's not so much all the history and yada yada. You get used to that after a while, it's just one of the best places on earth to get drunk... did I already mention spirits are really cheap? :biggrin:
Unfortunately, tech firms in Italy are centuries behind (and this is even worse when you aspire to get a CS-related job).
Rome is an amazing city. I'd say go for Rome. No offence to Plymothians.
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Original post by TheProcrastinator
Can I ask why you chose to go to Rome instead of studying in the UK? I'm assuming you're British - maybe you have an Italian parent or something?

And no I don't speak much Italian, though yes the course is taught in English. You receive Italian lessons on the side while studying; basically I'd have 3 years to become fluent before the clinical stages of the course start in earnest. A lot of people have told me that this will be enough time to learn, seeing as everybody around me will be speaking it as well. Would you disagree with that??

I am in fact going to Rome for 4 days on the 29th of this month - partly to check it out but also for a well-needed holiday! Its been on top of my must-visit list for a long time! I won't bother asking you whether you enjoy living there, as I reckon I can guess the answer :wink:


This is what would worry me the most. Learning enough of a language to 'get by' is completely different to learning enough of a language to do well in the clinical stages of a medical course. Whilst living a in country where the language is spoken is a huge advantage, don't be fooled into thinking 'everybody around me will be speaking it as well' it's likely that the vast majority of the people who you socialise with (or who are around you) will be those from your English language course and the temptation to converse with them in English will always be there. Be prepared to put in a lot of extra work.
(edited 11 years ago)
Original post by rlw31
This is what would worry me the most. Learning enough of a language to 'get by' is completely different to learning enough of a language to do well in the clinical stages of a medical course. Whilst living a in country where the language is spoken is a huge advantage, don't be fooled into thinking 'everybody around me will be speaking it as well' it's likely that the vast majority of the people who you socialise with (or who are around you) will be those from your English language course and the temptation to converse with them in English will always be there. Be prepared to put in a lot of extra work.


Well yes, this is indeed one of my main concerns: not being competent enough in the language to connect fully with patients and colleagues. Having never been in that position I can't say if its doable. Do you speak from personal experience here?

Original post by lex25288
I'm Italian, so I wouldn't really know how long it would take for someone who has never even studied it in college to become fluent in it.
The spelling is really easy and we don't have homophones. On the other hand, the grammar is dreadfully difficult. But, since you won't be studying the language in the UK and will be fully immersed in it, I guess learning it might be easier and it might even take less than 3 years (you'll find yourself desperately needing to speak the language properly when you want a bartender to give you all the booze you'll need to get pissed on night-outs ha ha ha ha ha :biggrin:).
Rome is amazing ... words can't even begin to describe. It's not so much all the history and yada yada. You get used to that after a while, it's just one of the best places on earth to get drunk... did I already mention spirits are really cheap? :biggrin:
Unfortunately, tech firms in Italy are centuries behind (and this is even worse when you aspire to get a CS-related job).


I have to say, you have brilliant written English for a non-Brit! How long did it take you to get that good??

Cheap booze is certainly a plus point! Anyone with any sense knows how beautiful and vibrant Rome is, but how have you found studying at the uni itself?
Reply 7
Original post by TheProcrastinator
Well yes, this is indeed one of my main concerns: not being competent enough in the language to connect fully with patients and colleagues. Having never been in that position I can't say if its doable. Do you speak from personal experience here?


Not for a medicine degree, no. I did a modern foreign languages degree and spent a year in two different countries including Italy. I've a friend who studied Italian at A Level. After three years of learning Italian she went to Italy to do a degree taught in English, whilst there she also had free access to Italian Language classes. We started learning Italian at the same time, when I went to Italy on my year abroad, my Italian was better than hers (which was still fairly basic), and mine was by no means brilliant. By that time, she had already been living in Italy for a year. There's a big range of ability in foreign languages amongst even final year language students.

I certainly don't think it's impossible, but purely from a linguistic point of view, it will take a lot of extra work.
Reply 8
Original post by TheProcrastinator
I have to say, you have brilliant written English for a non-Brit! How long did it take you to get that good??

Cheap booze is certainly a plus point! Anyone with any sense knows how beautiful and vibrant Rome is, but how have you found studying at the uni itself?


Thanks :biggrin: I've been reading in English ever since I was 11 (I'm 24 now).
I started off with some classics (not in Old English, but Middle English): "Canterbury Tale" and "A Christmas Carol" for instance. And then moved on to more contemporary novels (I devoured the Harry Potter books :smile:).
But I had a fairly decent command of the language after a couple of years. English is quite easy grammar-wise because it lacks all the different forms of adjectives and conjugations we have in Italian. Spelling is quite hard though, since in Italian a word can only be written in a certain way (e.g. In English "meat" and "meet" are pronounced in the same way, but have completely different spellings and meanings).
The uni's got a great international reputation (that played a huge part in being offered a place at York) which certainly trumps Plymouth. It's got the largest student body of any university in Europe (about 180000 people), but it never gets too messy because the university's got different buildings throughout the city for each school/faculty. I was nearby the Colosseum, while Medicine is near Policlinico (a Tube stop).
I think you shouldn't worry too much about connecting with other people on your course since most of them are going to be international just like you and have a good command of English since the course is going to be taught in it.

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Reply 9
Would the Italian medicine degree be ok in the UK? I presume a UK medicine degree would be better than an Italian one!
Reply 10
Original post by Elliot Ross
I presume a UK medicine degree would be better than an Italian one!


On what assumption? :confused:

Original post by Elliot Ross
Would the Italian medicine degree be ok in the UK?


Wikipedia
The Bologna Process is a series of ministerial meetings and agreements between European countries designed to ensure comparability in the standards and quality of higher education qualifications.
With the Bologna Process implementation, higher education systems in European countries are to be organized in such a way that:

it is easy to move from one country to the other (within the European Higher Education Area) for the purpose of further study or employment;

the attractiveness of European higher education has increased, so that many people from non-European countries also come to study and/or work in Europe;

the European Higher Education Area provides Europe with a broad, high-quality advanced knowledge base, and ensures the further development of Europe as a stable, peaceful and tolerant community benefiting from a cutting-edge European Research Area;

there will also be a greater convergence between the U.S. and Europe as European higher education adopts aspects of the American system.




So to answer your question, yes.

Why do you think there are so many international students in the UK? Is it because we like weather there? :tongue:
No one would be studying for a degree in another country, if it wasn't valid back home.

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