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  1. OneDayIwill's Avatar
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    Syria War!
    What is going on? Why are so many innocent people getting killed, what is the reason? That filthy president Assad should be executed!
  2. zainahmed72's Avatar
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    Re: Syria War!
    (Original post by OneDayIwill)
    What is going on? Why are so many innocent people getting killed, what is the reason? That filthy president Assad should be executed!
    The world is actually near the end. Look in the Quraan it mentions about fighting happening in Syria.
  3. Molts's Avatar
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    Re: Syria War!
    (Original post by OneDayIwill)
    What is going on? Why are so many innocent people getting killed, what is the reason? That filthy president Assad should be executed!
    If you don't understand what's happening then why do you want Assad to be executed?
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    Re: Syria War!
    (Original post by zainahmed72)
    The world is actually near the end. Look in the Quraan it mentions about fighting happening in Syria.
    yaah, no it doesn't.


    Loons.
  5. Lisacreature's Avatar
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    Basically the people are rebelling against their leader, I would call it a revolution (though the media calls it a Civil War). It's like what happened in Eygpt and Libya and its happening all over the Middle East.

    Thousands of innocent people are being killed by the military or those loyal to Assad's government, therefore the rebels are fighting back with weopens they have obtained from different countries and even groups (apparrently the Taliban is helping some rebels). And of course the International community (the UN) do nothing, this is because of Russia and China vetoing (blocking) any moves to stop Assad and the military, the UN tried to do a peace plan, this is where the fighting will stop for an amount of time, allowing charities and other groups to move into areas like Damascus and help the innocent people. This idea failed and was abandoned last month (after months of trying to enforce it).

    You will probably hear UN officials and politicians, for example Hilary Clinton, condemning the Syrian government, and that's all they do, because of the veto rules. Although France and the UK are very supportive of the Syrian rebels and have publicly shown their support by arming them with weopens.

    One last thing, many Syrian government officials have left Assad and have fled to other countries. Unfortunately there are thousands stranded in war zones, literally waiting for a bomb to drop onto there house! Personally I think the UN should place refugee camps within Syria (as many who can are fleeing to Turkey or Iraq) and then have them guarded by NATO military forces.

    I hope this helps give you an idea on what is going on, look on the BBC website for more.
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    Re: Syria War!
    (Original post by Molts)
    If you don't understand what's happening then why do you want Assad to be executed?
    I believe OP is asking What is going on? Rhetorically as Syria at the moment looks a lot like Hell.
    Last edited by Aj12; 27-08-2012 at 17:28.
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    Re: Syria War!
    (Original post by zainahmed72)
    The world is actually near the end. Look in the Quraan it mentions about fighting happening in Syria.
    Syria hasnt been a country for the last 5000 years
  8. Molts's Avatar
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    Re: Syria War!
    (Original post by Rational Thinker)
    Thankyou for that comment smart ass. I believe OP is asking What is going on? Rhetorically as Syria at the moment looks a lot like Hell.
    You're welcome.

    The OP doesn't understand the situation but at the same time calls for the death of Assad ? This is a text book definition of bandwagon opinions.

    I hate bandwagon opinions.

    It is the bane of every debate/discussion you could have. Every once in a while someone comes along in the middle of a discussion that he doesn't understand the topic at hand so he just spews out his own regurgitated mainstream (often ill-informed) view.

    Of course this time the OP is asking for information, but I couldn't help pointing out how people have an annoying tendency to tack on such opinions


    Now to actually contribute :

    The reasons why this 'war' started is not as interesting or as relevant now but what is interesting is why this stalemate has occurred. What is interesting is how both sides are stuck in an ever increasing cycle of despair of brutality and bloodshed not as a result of ideology but for survival. This despair leads to ever increasing brutality from both sides, the rebels can't back down since they would be hunted down and decimated by Assad's force and vice versa. It's kind of like both sides are going down the river in The Heart of Darkness. Now that is more interesting and worthy of discussion.
    Last edited by Molts; 26-08-2012 at 13:09.
  9. Basiji's Avatar
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    Re: Syria War!
    What total BS! I feel sorry for you young westerners who believe everything the biased Zionist media throws at you. These people who are fighting against Assad are not rebels, they are terrorists. They murder, massacre, torture, hang anyone who doesnt support their cause. They are Sunni extremists on orders from crazy religious fanatics in Saudi Arabia and Egypt (Sheikh Adnan Arour and Sheikh Muhammad Zoughby plus more). Go on youtube and listen to what these sheikhs are saying. Go on youtube to see with your own eyes, these so called 'rebels' executing and hanging christians, Shia's, Alawis and soldiers. Go on youtube and see the Zionist filth Danny Abdul Dayem lieing to the western media. This revolution is just a Zionist plot supported and funded by the USA, Saudi Arabia and Western Europe as usual.. to get rid off the Anti-Israel, Anti-Western, Pro-Iran, Pro Hezbollah Assad and install yet another western puppet in the middle east. All this to weaken Iran's influence in the Middle east and to break up the Iran-Syria-Hezbollah alliance.

    Assad shall prevail!
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    Re: Syria War!
    Assad is basically an Iranian pawn in the region cos he's a shiite, the port of tartus is the only Russian naval base left in the middle east. Russia cant afford loose it cos that means it will loose its last bastion of influence in the ME.

    The majority of the nation which is Sunni is fighting against this dictator after they tried the peaceful protest route for a year which was met with unmeasurable brutality and murder. The Free Syrian army was born and its kicking the regimes ass on a daily basis!

    History proves once a nation rises up against a dictator and takes up arms..thats it, he's thrown into the dustbin of history and his masters cant do a damn thing. History repeats itself and putin, khamanei and ahmadinejad and cant do a jack about it lol
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    (Original post by Company Commissar)
    Assad is basically an Iranian pawn in the region cos he's a shiite, the port of tartus is the only Russian naval base left in the middle east. Russia cant afford loose it cos that means it will loose its last bastion of influence in the ME.

    The majority of the nation which is Sunni is fighting against this dictator after they tried the peaceful protest route for a year which was met with unmeasurable brutality and murder. The Free Syrian army was born and its kicking the regimes ass on a daily basis!

    History proves once a nation rises up against a dictator and takes up arms..thats it, he's thrown into the dustbin of history and his masters cant do a damn thing. History repeats itself and putin, khamanei and ahmadinejad and cant do a jack about it lol
    Innacurate information and hypocrisy. Assad is not a Shiite hes an Alawi. Alawi is an offshoot of Shia' Islam. Most Shia's dont regard Alawis as muslims. So what about the pawns in Saudi arabia, jordan, qatar, bahrain, turkey, britain? why is there no protests in these countries? oh yh cause they're all Pro America and Pro Israel... barring Britain and turkey I would say the other countries listed are also brutal dictatorships who continue to opress religious minorities like Shia's and Christians.
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    Re: Syria War!
    Its funny because this is a blind spot for anti-imperialists, they just don't know what to think. They support the opposition, and they don't know about intervention. They should look at the beligerants.

    Assad-Iran-Russia-China-Lebannon-Shia Militias

    vs

    Saudi Arabic-USA-Israel-Nato-Sunni Extremists

    I am picking the lesser of two evils.
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    Re: Syria War!
    (Original post by prog2djent)
    Its funny because this is a blind spot for anti-imperialists, they just don't know what to think. They support the opposition, and they don't know about intervention. They should look at the beligerants.

    Assad-Iran-Russia-China-Lebannon-Shia Militias

    vs

    Saudi Arabic-USA-Israel-Nato-Sunni Extremists

    I am picking the lesser of two evils.
    Which is?! They're all playing the same game.
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    Re: Syria War!
    (Original post by zainahmed72)
    The world is actually near the end. Look in the Quraan it mentions about fighting happening in Syria.
    There's nothing like that in the Quran, you stupid fool.
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    Re: Syria War!
    (Original post by Company Commissar)
    Assad is basically an Iranian pawn in the region cos he's a shiite, the port of tartus is the only Russian naval base left in the middle east. Russia cant afford loose it cos that means it will loose its last bastion of influence in the ME.

    The majority of the nation which is Sunni is fighting against this dictator after they tried the peaceful protest route for a year which was met with unmeasurable brutality and murder. The Free Syrian army was born and its kicking the regimes ass on a daily basis!

    History proves once a nation rises up against a dictator and takes up arms..thats it, he's thrown into the dustbin of history and his masters cant do a damn thing. History repeats itself and putin, khamanei and ahmadinejad and cant do a jack about it lol
    This conflict is all global politics, it has nothing to do with democracy or revolution! For Russia's port of tartus see USA in bahrain, saudia arabia half the middle east. Most smart people can see it for what it is, a global power struggle. Its not heroic freedom fighters v evil dictator, history is never that simple if you look closely.
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    Re: Syria War!
    (Original post by OneDayIwill)
    What is going on? Why are so many innocent people getting killed, what is the reason? That filthy president Assad should be executed!
    Your solution to people being killed is to kill someone.

    lol
  17. prog2djent's Avatar
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    Re: Syria War!
    (Original post by danny111)
    Because China and Russia are totalitarian (dictatorships) that cannot allow any intervention in conflicts questioning the leadership of a country's leader - because that would undermine their own authority.
    Replace China and russia with the US and nato and its exactly the same, except we have slightly different styles of government, China and Russia being highly authoritarian (north Korea is totalitarian) the US being a constitutional republic - very very soft democracy one day and a dictatorship the next, and nato countries are largely democratic representative, so another soft democracy.
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    (Original post by danny111)
    China is totalitarian. Don't be naive to think anything else. And if you don't consider Putin a dictator either then you're just kidding yourself.
    China is not totalitarian, its has an open capitalist economy, but it has a communist political system, presumably to make sure western imperialist nations cannot hinder China economic progression through political interference.
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    There's nothing like that in the Quran, you stupid fool.
    Actually there is, the fall of Damashq (Damascus) is mentioned in the Qur'an, where it states that the walls of Damascus will fall when the forces of Islam will stand at the eastern Gate of Damashq (Where the Ummayad Mosque is)and the Forces backed by the disbelievers will stand at the western gate of Damashq, and the messiah will return at a point what is now to be believed the most northern Minaret of the Ummayad Mosque.
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    (Original post by rangelrangel)
    China is not totalitarian, its has an open capitalist economy, but it has a communist political system, presumably to make sure western imperialist nations cannot hinder China economic progression through political interference.
    "Totalitarianism (or totalitarian rule) is a political system where the state recognizes no limits to its authority and strives to regulate every aspect of public and private life wherever feasible."

    Wherever feasible. An open economy is better for economic prosperity. Simple as that.
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