PhD IN PHARMACY
anyone have any experience in gaining PhD after the MPharm?
how much does it roughly cost?
what field can you get a PhD in?
What unis can you go ti?
id really appreciate any help, im only started my Mpharm this September but i like to plan ahead as i find it really motivated me when I know where i want to be (I knew I wanted to be a pharmacist when I was 13)
Thank you
how much does it roughly cost?
what field can you get a PhD in?
What unis can you go ti?
id really appreciate any help, im only started my Mpharm this September but i like to plan ahead as i find it really motivated me when I know where i want to be (I knew I wanted to be a pharmacist when I was 13)
Thank you
Original post by asaaal
anyone have any experience in gaining PhD after the MPharm?
how much does it roughly cost?
what field can you get a PhD in?
What unis can you go ti?
id really appreciate any help, im only started my Mpharm this September but i like to plan ahead as i find it really motivated me when I know where i want to be (I knew I wanted to be a pharmacist when I was 13)
Thank you
how much does it roughly cost?
what field can you get a PhD in?
What unis can you go ti?
id really appreciate any help, im only started my Mpharm this September but i like to plan ahead as i find it really motivated me when I know where i want to be (I knew I wanted to be a pharmacist when I was 13)
Thank you
PhD's are generally only 'worth it' if you get funded as all the cost of one is quite expensive in terms of equipment, reagents and the like for the duration of it all. I don't know exactly how much the whole 3 or 4 years would be, probably varies between where you are and what kind of research you're doing.
A lot of fields offer a doctorate. My advice is find out what your dream job would be during your next 4 years and then find out through lecturers whether or not you'll need a PhD to do it. As it stands, an MPharm qualification (plus your licence after pre-reg) will get you quite far. If you want to be a pharmacist i.e. dispensing behind a counter be it in community or pharmacy then you won't need any more qualifications and it'd be better to get on the career ladder and get a better wage for yourself. I'm quite determined to do a PhD as well however the people in my research group at the moment said to keep my options open.
Hope it helps!
(edited 11 years ago)
Original post by Irrelevance
PhD's are generally only 'worth it' if you get funded as all the cost of one is quite expensive in terms of equipment, reagents and the like for the duration of it all. I don't know exactly how much the whole 3 or 4 years would be, probably varies between where you are and what kind of research you're doing.
A lot of fields offer a doctorate. My advice is find out what your dream job would be during your next 4 years and then find out through lecturers whether or not you'll need a PhD to do it. As it stands, an MPharm qualification (plus your licence after pre-reg) will get you quite far. If you want to be a pharmacist i.e. dispensing behind a counter be it in community or pharmacy then you won't need any more qualifications and it'd be better to get on the career ladder and get a better wage for yourself. I'm quite determined to do a PhD as well however the people in my research group at the moment said to keep my options open.
Hope it helps!
A lot of fields offer a doctorate. My advice is find out what your dream job would be during your next 4 years and then find out through lecturers whether or not you'll need a PhD to do it. As it stands, an MPharm qualification (plus your licence after pre-reg) will get you quite far. If you want to be a pharmacist i.e. dispensing behind a counter be it in community or pharmacy then you won't need any more qualifications and it'd be better to get on the career ladder and get a better wage for yourself. I'm quite determined to do a PhD as well however the people in my research group at the moment said to keep my options open.
Hope it helps!
well i want to be a manager of a hospital pharmacy, i work in a pharmacy and my boss's wife is the manager of our local hospital. However, times have changed and there are going to be many graduates so it will be so hard to have such a high post. I thought i might need a phd to stand out? what do you think? I 100% dont want to go into research btw, its not for me !!
Original post by asaaal
well i want to be a manager of a hospital pharmacy, i work in a pharmacy and my boss's wife is the manager of our local hospital. However, times have changed and there are going to be many graduates so it will be so hard to have such a high post. I thought i might need a phd to stand out? what do you think? I 100% dont want to go into research btw, its not for me !!
Think of a post-grad qualifications as something you need to have in order to get a specific job rather than something that helps you stand out as it's a very big commitment.
The most important thing is to be good at your job. Being qualified and being good at your job are two different things - having a degree doesn't make you automatically brilliant. As for ending up in research you don't have to do so after getting your doctorate but it opens up the possibility.
I'd do the first two years of your degree first and see if you still want to manage. After that, do some research by asking people in know about managing a Pharmacy and how to go about it then you're good to go.
please
i just want to know
1 quality control ,what is the qualified subject to do phd in it and very related to good position in quality control in pharmacaceutical industry
2 and the same for r and d?
and
3 what are the best universites for that in degree and good price?in uk
i just want to know
1 quality control ,what is the qualified subject to do phd in it and very related to good position in quality control in pharmacaceutical industry
2 and the same for r and d?
and
3 what are the best universites for that in degree and good price?in uk
Original post by mahmoud tariq
please
i just want to know
1 quality control ,what is the qualified subject to do phd in it and very related to good position in quality control in pharmacaceutical industry
2 and the same for r and d?
and
3 what are the best universites for that in degree and good price?in uk
i just want to know
1 quality control ,what is the qualified subject to do phd in it and very related to good position in quality control in pharmacaceutical industry
2 and the same for r and d?
and
3 what are the best universites for that in degree and good price?in uk
It's essentially analytical chemistry and a good position in that field would be being QP as you'll be overseeing all the results generated from the QC department. Above all else experience is the key to get that high up i.e. having 10 years industrial experience is better than trying to go straight in with a PhD. For degree choice, so long as it's life sciences (chemistry, biology, pharmacy, etc) you can get there.
Again, R&D has several fields as you can do AR&D which is analytical research and development, or product research and development. The first one is thinking of methods for quality control analysts to use in order to test the finished product whilst the latter is working before the product has gotten to market.
University choice is something I'm not too aware of. To be brutally honest, QC isn't a difficult field to get into provided you've got steady hands and some working knowledge of analytical chemistry. A friend of mine did Biochemistry and he's working full time in QC despite not knowing analytical techniques prior to getting there.
Original post by ScoobyB4
Dont think a PhD would help you in getting a management position, as your going to have to climb up the band 6-8 ladder before doing a PhD would put you in a position to develop your career. Pharmacy PhDs, like most UK PhDs, can take between 3 (or 4) years...
what band are you as a pharmacist?
Original post by asaaal
what band are you as a pharmacist?
I'm a pre reg pharmacist...
Original post by ScoobyB4
I'm a pre reg pharmacist...
I dont mean you personally, i mean pharmacist in general
Original post by asaaal
anyone have any experience in gaining PhD after the MPharm?
how much does it roughly cost?
what field can you get a PhD in?
What unis can you go ti?
id really appreciate any help, im only started my Mpharm this September but i like to plan ahead as i find it really motivated me when I know where i want to be (I knew I wanted to be a pharmacist when I was 13)
Thank you
how much does it roughly cost?
what field can you get a PhD in?
What unis can you go ti?
id really appreciate any help, im only started my Mpharm this September but i like to plan ahead as i find it really motivated me when I know where i want to be (I knew I wanted to be a pharmacist when I was 13)
Thank you
Original post by asaaal
well i want to be a manager of a hospital pharmacy, i work in a pharmacy and my boss's wife is the manager of our local hospital. However, times have changed and there are going to be many graduates so it will be so hard to have such a high post. I thought i might need a phd to stand out? what do you think? I 100% dont want to go into research btw, its not for me !!
I did the MPharm, did prereg, qualified and registered, and I am now a PhD student investigating new methods of drug delivery.
My main advice would be to focus on the degree and qualify as a pharmacist. I gained so many skills and attitudes during the preregistration year which have helped towards my PhD. A PhD is one of the hardest things you will ever do (if not THE hardest) so think about it long and hard closer to the time.
If you don't want to go into academia or research then a lab-based PhD is unlikely to be right for you. In the same sense, a pharmacy practice or general healthcare PhD may not what you want either.
If you remain within hospital pharmacy you will be expected to undertake the postgraduate clinical diploma in pharmacy during the first 2-3 years of qualification. After this you could bump it up to an MSc in clinical pharmacy and specialise. Many hospitals are encouraging their specialists to do a professional doctorate in pharmacy, the DPharm. This is a part time PhD which mixes teaching at the start with independent research in the later years. Because it is part time it takes around 6-7 years to complete. A DPharm will equip you to be a Consultant Pharmacist as their role is to lead, educate, research and innovate pharmacy and healthcare practice within a certain area. A full-time or part-time academic PhD will also equip you to be a consultant pharmacist.
Note, a consultant pharmacist is not the same as a chief pharmacist - which you mention you're aiming for. It takes a long time and a lot of career progression and experience to become a chief pharmacist. You will also need skills in handling people, managing budgets, and administration. Therefore, an MBA (master of business administration) is more likely to be the useful postgraduate qualification for you.
Finally, just want to repeat: It's good to have an aim and goal but don't set them too strictly or too far in advance. Your life and opinions will change a lot over the next four years and you could easily find yourself wanting to go into community pharmacy, or even research.
Original post by TigerSwift
I did the MPharm, did prereg, qualified and registered, and I am now a PhD student investigating new methods of drug delivery.
My main advice would be to focus on the degree and qualify as a pharmacist. I gained so many skills and attitudes during the preregistration year which have helped towards my PhD. A PhD is one of the hardest things you will ever do (if not THE hardest) so think about it long and hard closer to the time.
If you don't want to go into academia or research then a lab-based PhD is unlikely to be right for you. In the same sense, a pharmacy practice or general healthcare PhD may not what you want either.
If you remain within hospital pharmacy you will be expected to undertake the postgraduate clinical diploma in pharmacy during the first 2-3 years of qualification. After this you could bump it up to an MSc in clinical pharmacy and specialise. Many hospitals are encouraging their specialists to do a professional doctorate in pharmacy, the DPharm. This is a part time PhD which mixes teaching at the start with independent research in the later years. Because it is part time it takes around 6-7 years to complete. A DPharm will equip you to be a Consultant Pharmacist as their role is to lead, educate, research and innovate pharmacy and healthcare practice within a certain area. A full-time or part-time academic PhD will also equip you to be a consultant pharmacist.
Note, a consultant pharmacist is not the same as a chief pharmacist - which you mention you're aiming for. It takes a long time and a lot of career progression and experience to become a chief pharmacist. You will also need skills in handling people, managing budgets, and administration. Therefore, an MBA (master of business administration) is more likely to be the useful postgraduate qualification for you.
Finally, just want to repeat: It's good to have an aim and goal but don't set them too strictly or too far in advance. Your life and opinions will change a lot over the next four years and you could easily find yourself wanting to go into community pharmacy, or even research.
My main advice would be to focus on the degree and qualify as a pharmacist. I gained so many skills and attitudes during the preregistration year which have helped towards my PhD. A PhD is one of the hardest things you will ever do (if not THE hardest) so think about it long and hard closer to the time.
If you don't want to go into academia or research then a lab-based PhD is unlikely to be right for you. In the same sense, a pharmacy practice or general healthcare PhD may not what you want either.
If you remain within hospital pharmacy you will be expected to undertake the postgraduate clinical diploma in pharmacy during the first 2-3 years of qualification. After this you could bump it up to an MSc in clinical pharmacy and specialise. Many hospitals are encouraging their specialists to do a professional doctorate in pharmacy, the DPharm. This is a part time PhD which mixes teaching at the start with independent research in the later years. Because it is part time it takes around 6-7 years to complete. A DPharm will equip you to be a Consultant Pharmacist as their role is to lead, educate, research and innovate pharmacy and healthcare practice within a certain area. A full-time or part-time academic PhD will also equip you to be a consultant pharmacist.
Note, a consultant pharmacist is not the same as a chief pharmacist - which you mention you're aiming for. It takes a long time and a lot of career progression and experience to become a chief pharmacist. You will also need skills in handling people, managing budgets, and administration. Therefore, an MBA (master of business administration) is more likely to be the useful postgraduate qualification for you.
Finally, just want to repeat: It's good to have an aim and goal but don't set them too strictly or too far in advance. Your life and opinions will change a lot over the next four years and you could easily find yourself wanting to go into community pharmacy, or even research.
Did you go straight into your phD after pre-reg? What's your phd topic?
I'm currently in my fourth year and really enjoying my project, never thought I would consider doing further research but I'm seriously considering it now.
Original post by patsy
Did you go straight into your phD after pre-reg? What's your phd topic?
I'm currently in my fourth year and really enjoying my project, never thought I would consider doing further research but I'm seriously considering it now.
I'm currently in my fourth year and really enjoying my project, never thought I would consider doing further research but I'm seriously considering it now.
Yeah, there was about a month's break after qualifying before I started the PhD. I was accepted in February and it was meant to start in May but they extended the start date for me as they wanted me. I think that's fairly common with research degrees.
My PhD is looking at drug delivery and the development of novel antimicrobial wound dressings. It's using materials that are similar to those I investigated during my final year MPharm project. This gave me a little bit of a head start but sure as hell didn't make it any easier, hehe.
Original post by asaaal
anyone have any experience in gaining PhD after the MPharm?
how much does it roughly cost?
what field can you get a PhD in?
What unis can you go ti?
id really appreciate any help, im only started my Mpharm this September but i like to plan ahead as i find it really motivated me when I know where i want to be (I knew I wanted to be a pharmacist when I was 13)
Thank you
how much does it roughly cost?
what field can you get a PhD in?
What unis can you go ti?
id really appreciate any help, im only started my Mpharm this September but i like to plan ahead as i find it really motivated me when I know where i want to be (I knew I wanted to be a pharmacist when I was 13)
Thank you
Hey there.. i have to say i am inspired by your ambition.. i am also about to start the mpharm course this September.. really excited.. and i would also like to know when, how and where a PhD can be acquired.. so ill be sticking around here
.. which university are you going to study mpharm at?Hi everyone!! I have my doubts regarding the MSc and the Doctorate in Pharmacy. I'm currently completing a Masters in Biotechnology, however my long term goal is to work as a retail pharmacist and in time open my own drugstore. Now, what I've read on the PhD suggests this degree is more relevant to those who intend to go into investigation. The masters seems to be more along the basis of retail and costumer help as well as research and manufacturing. Is this correct? Is a PhD irrelevant for someone who wants retail? Or is it something I could really use in time? Also, the MPharm isn't available in the school I'm looking into, is that a problem? They offer the MSc and the Doctor of Philosophy. Thank you!!!
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