Boy, 15, admits raping 65-year-old man :O

Original post by airdoc

proof how? :s-smilie:

Usually in rape and sexual assault cases there's evidence such as a DNA match. But it seems everyone just goes on a confession these days.

Granted if he did it then this boy needs some serious mental help, if he didn't do it and for some strange reason he admitted to the crime for what ever reason (It's happened before) then he also needs some sort of help.

@Noisy :] If your comment was supposed to be some sort of sexist jab at my intelligence may I say this."**** you."

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Reply 23

lulubel

this 15 year old is obviously a psychopath. if the authorities release him and he goes on to commit more violence then they should be held accountable. judges, lawyers, the police, the council, the government.

i think people need protecting not just from psychopaths but also from the weak and permissive system.

Reply 24

Original post by Ivorysovereign

In what way was my comment letting down my gender for asking if there was actually any solid proof that the boy did this crime?

Your comment were unjustified and sexist, and I hardly never pull out the sexist card. :] But good on you, it's nice to know that there's prats like yourself out there.

Let me put this as simply as possible so that you and your ilk can understand; the testimony of the victim and the perpetrator is all that is required for a conviction.

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Reply 25

Tabzqt

Still a better love story than twilight

Reply 26

Fuzzpig

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Original post by Stanley90

The teenager also admitted attempting to rape and sexually assaulting the man on land off Vale Road in Mansfield on 4 August.

The fact they have to specify the incident occurred on land means he's attempted it before in the sea. This kid just gets sicker and sicker!

I love that. What they actually mean is that he attempted this other assault on the land around Vale Road - not that he's tried before in the sea! :colondollar:

Anyway. People have been mentioning recently that sexual assaults and rapes are being conducted by men of younger and younger ages now. I wonder if that's true, or rather that younger men were not caught so much in the past. It's an extremely shocking case.

Those who rape at younger ages, and also who have male victims, are the most prolific sex offenders with the highest risk.

Reply 27

alis-volatpropriis

15

Wtf.

He should be named and shamed. Don't care if he's underage, he knew what he was doing when he raped that old man.

Reply 28

Original post by noisy06

Let me put this as simply as possible so that you and your ilk can understand; the testimony of the victim and the perpetrator is all that is required for a conviction.

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You say this as if I'm not aware that a confession is all that it takes for a conviction. Go preach else where, and don't speak as if you know the full extent of my intelligence.

I asked if there was any solid evidence. And by the looks of it there isn't. And if there's no solid proof then we might just be sending a very mentally unstable child to be locked away.

Now impede me no further, I'm done with your ilk.

Reply 29

Four Queue

12

I'm waiting for someone to blame video games or an unsteady upbringing.

Reply 30

Norton1

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Original post by Four Queue

I'm waiting for someone to blame video games or an unsteady upbringing.

I blame video games and an unsteady upbringing.

Reply 31

Original post by noisy06

I am very disturbed by your lack of understanding. I wasn't expecting much but I'm still disappointed.

Study some criminal law otherwise you'll come off a bit of a fool like you are now unfortunately.

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Why should I? I study Human Biology with Forensic's, so I look for actual evidence that puts a person there, red handed.
You don't seem to understand how damaging it could be to put a child whose this mentally disturbed into a place such as a jail, he needs serious mental help.

Now if you're done trying to come across as an ass to everyone who can see this thread, best you stop yes? :]

Reply 32

Original post by Four Queue

I'm waiting for someone to blame video games or an unsteady upbringing.

I don't think there's any possible excuse even though some might disagree with us. The fact that he tried to assault and rape before tells us that the rape was premeditated, so it's irrelevant if he even does have mental issues since he is undoubtedly a danger to society and must not be let outdoors.

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Reply 33

Fuzzpig

16

Original post by noisy06

Well, you are letting your gender down. Justifying your remark like you did here doesn't help either. This is the real world dear, bad things like this happen and those that admit to atrocities need to be put away. Otherwise you wouldn't be safe walking down the alley on a Friday night wearing a thin vest top.

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As someone with some knowledge of these types of crime (through both work and study), everything she said is perfectly reasonable and valid.

People actually do admit to these things without having committed the crime more often than you'd think. To question this is the first step an intelligent person would take to ensure that justice is given to those who truly deserve it. To blindly blunder in and swing insults, accusations and demands of punishment about is... slightly less useful to the real world.

The fact that this poster was female has nothing to do with the fact that every angle of this crime will need to be questioned in order to do the right thing.

Perhaps you should work on controlling your temper and remember that disagreeing with a woman does not mean that women are, in general, disagreeable :wink:

Reply 34

Tabzqt

Original post by alis-volatpropriis

Wtf.

He should be named and shamed. Don't care if he's underage, he knew what he was doing when he raped that old man.

two wrongs don't make a right...

Reply 35

Original post by aliluvschoc

As someone with some knowledge of these types of crime (through both work and study), everything she said is perfectly reasonable and valid.

People actually do admit to these things without having committed the crime more often than you'd think. To question this is the first step an intelligent person would take to ensure that justice is given to those who truly deserve it. To blindly blunder in and swing insults, accusations and demands of punishment about is... slightly less useful to the real world.

The fact that this poster was female has nothing to do with the fact that every angle of this crime will need to be questioned in order to do the right thing.

Perhaps you should work on controlling your temper and remember that disagreeing with a woman does not mean that women are, in general, disagreeable :wink:

1. Your background in law is irrelevant to me, I care about what you say, not what you learnt.

2. To claim that there is no "proof" that the crime happened is actually incorrect. Since nobody can be 100% sure of any crime, there are boundaries in place and a concept of "beyond reasonable doubt". A testimony from the perpetrator passes the threshold of "beyond reasonable doubt". The onus is on you, the defence, to provide evidence of his mental incapacity, not the prosecution. So my statements are fully accurate, unlike the unfortunate lady I was debating with who doesn't have a clue what is going on. A scathing indictment of the British education system.

3. You should know better than to be arguing with the facts, no amount of rhetoric can hide BS. Do you understand that?

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Reply 36

Original post by Ivorysovereign

Oh for the love of everything, what do you not understand? This boy WILL be released in years to come. The way he is now Jail will not help him or society, he doesn't need that sort of environment. He needs to be in a Rehabilitation Centre for young criminals.

Now I'm going to be blunt here, you're currently pissing me off with your sexist comments, jabs at my intelligence and the country I live in. Continue and you will be reported. I came here to voice my opinion not be belittled by yourself. Thank you.

Considering your lack of justification and support for your own views, I'm not surprised you're now changing the subject to rehab instead of there being no "proof" of the crime. You've also been reduced to using inappropriate and if I'm not mistaken, banned language. Getting emotional is not the answer, you have to use your reasoning or learn about the subject matter.

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Reply 37

cl_steele

And this is why castration should still be a viable punishment, this pieceof **** shouldnt be allowed to ever see the light of day again let alone reproduce.

Reply 38