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Re: BoxingSnatch is such a good film!(Original post by SubAtomic)
Unless you are fixing fights like Brad Pitts character in Snatch
Seen a documentary about travelers before and on one fight am not sure whether a family or one guy put £60,000 on their fighter, ended up a draw but it shows some serious cash changes hands occasionally.
Get a nice caravan for £60 k
But when I think about it a bit more bare knuckle isn't amateur, it is quite the different sport. -
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Re: Boxingalso counter punching,khans quite week at that.(Original post by Tokyoround)
A lot of guys struggle with the change from amateur to pro. There's a complete switch of focus from speed and accuracy for points, to getting big and developing knockout power.
amatuer boxing is ruining the pro game, if you look back at the fighters in history they had more skill because of the points system -
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Re: BoxingThis could be a point. He's good at "in - do your work - out" style but countering I'm not so sure about.(Original post by hurricane carter)
also counter punching,khans quite week at that.
I'm not sure I know what you mean. They had more skill because of the amateur style (points system)? How is that ruining the pro game? Or am I just being thick?(Original post by hurricane carter)
amatuer boxing is ruining the pro game, if you look back at the fighters in history they had more skill because of the points system
Do you mean that they are ill prepared for the rough and tumble of the pro game? So are you saying the fighters in history were more prepared in amateur boxing or not?
Also - is the transition from amateur to pro more difficult in heavyweight and easier in the lighter weights? -
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Re: Boxingi dont think its any diff,why would it be(Original post by frankieboy)
I'm not sure I know what you mean. They had more skill because of the amateur style (points system)? How is that ruining the pro game? Or am I just being thick?
Do you mean that they are ill prepared for the rough and tumble of the pro game? So are you saying the fighters in history were more prepared in amateur boxing or not?
yes most fighters are ill prepared because counterpunching is an art which is learnt from an early age.
the more amatuer fights you have the more you will box according to the scoring system, and then itll be harder to change that,khans like that
whereas FLOYD is skillfull, you could see it early in his career
personally i dont like watching modern boxing cause boxing is a lost art,mayeather is the only old school boxer left
Also - is the transition from amateur to pro more difficult in heavyweight and easier in the lighter weights?
umm yeh that was a mistake i meant because they idnt have the points scoring systemLast edited by hurricane carter; 20-07-2012 at 00:22. -
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Re: BoxingUnlicensed boxing is a load of rubbish. The standard is appalling and you'd learn far more in the amateurs.(Original post by Tokyoround)
You need to make a name for yourself to land the big contracts, management, sponsor etc. and Olympics is the most conventional route.
Look at Fraudley Harrison, he won a gold at the Olympics (i think? Can't remember) turned pro and was making money despite fighting bums off the street.
Most guys want that gold medal for extra bargaining power. But then again people like James degale got all sorts of "benefits" to stay amateur and give British boxing some shred of credibility.
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I reckon, however, that Muay Thai is far better preparation for the pro boxing ranks than the amateur game. Just look at the huge number of Thai fighters in the lower divisions who fight to a world class standard in both Muay Thai and boxing.
However, Muay Thai is a minority sport in this country and the top amateurs get paid the equivalent of a 40k a year salary, which considering how much less dangerous the amateur game is compared to the pros, and that injury and all manner of factors makes a fighter's income from pro boxing far from secure, makes amateur boxing the most attractive proposition for talented young fighters. -
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Re: BoxingMe too. I think he may end up splitting up with Roach because I don't think Freddie will be able to give him more time. Manny is his number one priority and rightly so, he has been with Roach the longest so really he should give Chavez Jnr the shoulder to free up more time with Khan.(Original post by oh-my-diddy)
I still believe khan can make it to the top. Hopefully this defeat will change his attitude and mindset. Maybe a new trainer will be good for him, who knows.
But who does Khan or should he go with? Enzo Calzaghe has thrown his hat in the ring but can't see Khan going with him, doesn't seem a match on paper but might be good to spend time in Wales rather than sunny LA. -
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Re: BoxingOh, sorry I read the question wrongly, I thought you meant why do boxers intend to go pro! I would guess for the Amateur experience, if you have that it would probably help you into a more well rounded fighter, plus I'm sure there is a lot more talent in the Amateur than Semi pro(Original post by TheJ0ker)
You don't get much money from amateur fighting. -
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Re: BoxingJust got an awesome rubber floor for training. Can't wait for the boxing in the olympics. Its gonna be epic....
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Re: BoxingAlready started http://www.london2012.com/boxing/schedule-and-results/(Original post by Converse Rocker)
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Re: BoxingCheers(Original post by Tokyoround)
Already started http://www.london2012.com/boxing/schedule-and-results/
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Re: BoxingAnyone watching the boxing? I was watching the Ogogo V Khytrov fight at work without the sound on (no biased commentary to taint me) and it looked like the Ukrainian won it. Gave two standing 8 counts, he looked a lot stronger and less like he was struggling to land punches. I thought he'd won and Ogogo would be out.
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Re: BoxingOgogo won two rounds out of 3. Went to the judges lights and he got the majority verdict. It was pretty equal but it looked like ogogo had the upper hand in the first and majority of the 3rd in terms of points. The ukranian was throwing more punches but the didn't look to be landing them and scoring.(Original post by Tokyoround)
Anyone watching the boxing? I was watching the Ogogo V Khytrov fight at work without the sound on (no biased commentary to taint me) and it looked like the Ukrainian won it. Gave two standing 8 counts, he looked a lot stronger and less like he was struggling to land punches. I thought he'd won and Ogogo would be out.Last edited by Foghorn Leghorn; 02-08-2012 at 14:59. -
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Re: BoxingWas a very good fight though either way, the Ukranian was very strong. Ogogo probably won't have a tougher fight than that in the competition but I think he needs to be a bit cleaner with his punches and looked like his fitness was letting him down near the end.(Original post by Foghorn Leghorn)
Ogogo won two rounds out of 3. Went to the judges lights and he got the majority verdict. It was pretty equal but it looked like ogogo had the upper hand in the first and majority of the 3rd in terms of points. The ukranian was throwing more punches but the didn't look to be landing them and scoring. -
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Re: BoxingYeah definitely especially his fitness, but he did well given the Ukranian is the world champion. Potentially there's a medal in there for him.(Original post by Tokyoround)
Was a very good fight though either way, the Ukranian was very strong. Ogogo probably won't have a tougher fight than that in the competition but I think he needs to be a bit cleaner with his punches and looked like his fitness was letting him down near the end. -
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Re: BoxingLook who's here!
Floyd post a few months inside.
He looks bigger for sure, especially the shoulder area. Who knows what he is going to do, depends whose out there for him to fight at the end of the year. It could have been Khan had it not been his loss to Garcia. I think his head of hair makes him "normal" and makes him look nice on the outset. When he's bald, he's mean and arrogant which fits his boxing personality to a tee.
