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Reply 20
OMG OMG OMG <3
"The average annual salary for a sports doctor varies according to the size and scope of the practice, along with the type of clientele treated. According to Salary.com, the median salary in December 2010 is £155,923. The middle 50 per cent of all sports doctors earn between £113,467 and £202,493. The total annual compensation may be higher, since many salaried sports doctors also receive benefits such as bonuses, profit-sharing and retirement funds."
http://www.ehow.co.uk/info_7754680_average-salary-sports-medicine-doctor.html

Average salary of £156,000 in a field that interests me #sorted :biggrin:

...or am I what's this about guys? what qualifications do you need?



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Original post by kka25
Strange isn't it? Only after we go further and further in our education, then we gain more and more of an appreciation for these sort of things :sadnod:


Well there's no way you can learn this stuff from the start, it takes years of laying the groundwork, and that's with teachers and textbooks spelling it all out for you. The fact that anyone has been able to figure this stuff out for themselves in the first place blows my mind.
Reply 22
Lool yes OP you can take it easy, all the way to london metropolitan :colone:
Reply 23
Original post by SnoochToTheBooch
Are you kidding? You obviously haven't studied enough physics if you think that. Of all the subjects, physics is the one that this least applies to, infact the reason I was drawn to physics is precisely because it's not just an exercise in memorization & regurgitation. It's all about understanding, you just have to get the basics out of the way first. Eventually you find out where they come from, ie. the theory that predicts them, but at A-level you just have to accept a certain amount. I do agree with you about the pointlessness of Feynman diagrams at A-level, but what you don't realise is those little lines and squiggles actually represent a hell of a lot. In short, they remove the need to bugger around with pages and pages of ugly mathematics. Each little line represents a massive equation, an equation that takes a lot of reasoning & understanding to derive. I'm a PhD student and I'm only just now starting to fully appreciate them.


I'm not saying that physics is all memorization , what i'm saying is that it includes aspects of a microscopic level which i have no interest in whatsoever of many different things such as pretty much all of nuclear physics( fission, fusion. decay, half life) waves, baryons and mesons, etc.

and if I was to do a degree in this I would absolutley hate it :/
Yes :frown: I'm so fed up of academics. I hate this world.
Reply 25
Original post by SnoochToTheBooch
Well there's no way you can learn this stuff from the start, it takes years of laying the groundwork, and that's with teachers and textbooks spelling it all out for you. The fact that anyone has been able to figure this stuff out for themselves in the first place blows my mind.


This is exactly what i'm talking about in people being engaged in their subject you guys obviously have an appreciation for this kind of work and are prepared to gall the way with it, without even breaking your balls about it you just do it out of enjoyment and i'm so jealous because there isn't a subject that i'm really interested in and engaged in.

Like I say I do like my sports but finding a sports-related degree with good career prospects isn't looking so good atm :/
Reply 26
Original post by SDavis123
I'm feeling like I'm wasting all my life studying and I just want to go out and live my life I want to forget about all the meaningless maths and science and do what i'm interested in and apply my knowledge to something that is practical.

I'm not like a lot of the people on here who have a passion for what they're applying to do like the sociologist in deep debates about controversial subjects and civil engineers talking about famous structures etc. I do however admire their passion and want to find a passion that I have whithin a course
The only things I'm interested in are:

birds (i'm NOT talking tweety birds btw)

motorbikes

bodybuilding

rugby

drinking

football

In terms of work I like:

problem solving

something that can be applied to real life and visualised e.g. PE talking about different types of training or sociologists debating about political issues or accountants discussing how to run a business unlike chemistry going on about things on a microscopic level or physicists going about nuclear sh*t which and things that actually have no understanding behind it and is just pure memory work like feynman diagrams and baryons and mesons

I'm not to sure about general practical work but I really hate scientific practicals with graphs and logs and errors :angry:

So i'm stuck I have no idea what to do. I'm currently doing maths, physics and chemistry and I want to do something that I feel will engage me but I have no idea which degree will push my buttons.

How about a foundation degree in policing?! they are offering courses at nottingham and oxford brooks and you can be a special at the same time (special constable) you are mainly assesed on your practicle ability as a police officer and after 2 years you can become a full time police officer. For a frustated yet intelligent person who enjoys practical stuff this might be for you mate!!
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Reply 27
Original post by SDavis123
OMG OMG OMG <3
"The average annual salary for a sports doctor varies according to the size and scope of the practice, along with the type of clientele treated. According to Salary.com, the median salary in December 2010 is £155,923. The middle 50 per cent of all sports doctors earn between £113,467 and £202,493. The total annual compensation may be higher, since many salaried sports doctors also receive benefits such as bonuses, profit-sharing and retirement funds."
http://www.ehow.co.uk/info_7754680_average-salary-sports-medicine-doctor.html

Average salary of £156,000 in a field that interests me #sorted :biggrin:

...or am I what's this about guys? what qualifications do you need?



What do we think about this guys?
Reply 28
Original post by alapa
How about a foundation degree in policing?! they are offering courses at nottingham and oxford brooks and you can be a special at the same time (special constable) you are mainly assesed on your practicle ability as a police officer and after 2 years you can become a full time police officer. For a frustated yet intelligent person who enjoys practical stuff this might be for you mate!!


1. I can't do a foundation degree because I live in Gibraltar so I get my tuition fees etc. paid for me in all courses except foundation courses :/

2. My dads a copper and it sounds ******* **** lol
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Reply 29
Original post by SDavis123
1. I can't do a foundation degree because I live in Gibraltar so I get my tuition fees etc. paid for me in all courses except foundation courses :/

2. My dads a copper and it sounds f*cking sh*t lol

Ahh fair enough :smile:
Original post by SDavis123
This is exactly what i'm talking about in people being engaged in their subject you guys obviously have an appreciation for this kind of work and are prepared to gall the way with it, without even breaking your balls about it you just do it out of enjoyment and i'm so jealous because there isn't a subject that i'm really interested in and engaged in.

Like I say I do like my sports but finding a sports-related degree with good career prospects isn't looking so good atm :/


well if nothing interests you then you might as well go for the most lucrative thing possible.
Reply 31
Thanks for your replies everyone I appreciate your help :smile:

I think I am edging to a sports related degree because this is a natural and keen interest of mine but what do you think about the career prospects of a sport science type of degree?

Also what about being a sports medicine doctor? do you know what qualifications you need for this?
Reply 32
Original post by SnoochToTheBooch
well if nothing interests you then you might as well go for the most lucrative thing possible.


yh but thats the problem I'm not sure because although sport science is an interest of mine, the career prospects seem quite poor and as I am a capable student that can cope with the difficulty of maths, physics and chem I don't want to waste my potential :/
Original post by SDavis123
yh but thats the problem I'm not sure because although sport science is an interest of mine, the career prospects seem quite poor and as I am a capable student that can cope with the difficulty of maths, physics and chem I don't want to waste my potential :/


engineering? there's so much variety in that and it's putting physics to practical use.
Original post by SDavis123
Thanks for your replies everyone I appreciate your help :smile:

I think I am edging to a sports related degree because this is a natural and keen interest of mine but what do you think about the career prospects of a sport science type of degree?

Also what about being a sports medicine doctor? do you know what qualifications you need for this?


Done a bit of googling, looks like you'd need a degree in medicine.

"So how do you go about becoming a sports doctor? Typically the route can take eight years after qualifying from medical school. The first four years are basic training: two foundation years plus two years in basic specialist training. Basic specialist training can follow two routes: either two years in acute general medicine or two years in accident and emergency medicine, musculoskeletal medicine, or an acute general medicine rotation such cardiology. Both require the candidate to pass the exam for membership of the Royal College of Physicians to progress to registrar training."
http://careers.bmj.com/careers/advice/view-article.html?id=2627
Reply 35
Original post by SnoochToTheBooch
engineering? there's so much variety in that and it's putting physics to practical use.


I have thought about engineering (chemical, civil and aerospace) but I'm not very keen on it because although I do like problem solving I don't find it as interesting as sports

I've also heard the workload is quite insane - the maths is extreme and apparently 'engineering students work like slaves'

and I don't want to study something that i'm going to hate during my time at uni you know I just want something that I have a keen interest in and is rewarding if thats possible but the problem right now is that the degree which i'm heading towards atm something sport-related such as sport science doesn't have good career prospects

Hoever I've also recently found this career: sports medicine doctor which is very rewarding but I want to find out more what do you need to become one?
Reply 36
Original post by discomposure
Done a bit of googling, looks like you'd need a degree in medicine.

"So how do you go about becoming a sports doctor? Typically the route can take eight years after qualifying from medical school. The first four years are basic training: two foundation years plus two years in basic specialist training. Basic specialist training can follow two routes: either two years in acute general medicine or two years in accident and emergency medicine, musculoskeletal medicine, or an acute general medicine rotation such cardiology. Both require the candidate to pass the exam for membership of the Royal College of Physicians to progress to registrar training."
http://careers.bmj.com/careers/advice/view-article.html?id=2627


a medicine degree which is about 4 years right? + 8 years training!? :O
Original post by SDavis123
I have thought about engineering (chemical, civil and aerospace) but I'm not very keen on it because although I do like problem solving I don't find it as interesting as sports

I've also heard the workload is quite insane - the maths is extreme and apparently 'engineering students work like slaves'

and I don't want to study something that i'm going to hate during my time at uni you know I just want something that I have a keen interest in and is rewarding if thats possible but the problem right now is that the degree which i'm heading towards atm something sport-related such as sport science doesn't have good career prospects

Hoever I've also recently found this career: sports medicine doctor which is very rewarding but I want to find out more what do you need to become one?


well if that sounds good to you then go for it, but I don't imagine medicine would be any less stressful than engineering, and it'll probably be a longer course. I wouldn't worry about the maths aspect either. If you can handle maths now, you can handle maths later. The engineering maths won't be any worse than the physics maths, and I promise you the maths for undergraduate physics is not THAT bad (usually). It's all learnable, there is very little maths I met at undergraduate level that I would call extreme. I'm no genius and I got through it fine. You do so much mathematics that it becomes automatic, and you tend to use the same bits of maths over and over. For medicine I guess you need probably maths, biology, chemistry.

Either way if you wanna make serious money then there are no shortcuts, unless you're selling drugs, pussy or salvation.
Original post by SDavis123
a medicine degree which is about 4 years right? + 8 years training!? :O



Yup, most medical specialities take around that long to get into. You'd need to be an actual doctor first, working in a hospital setting. That's why the pay is so good. :p:


Honestly if you're really interested in sports science then go for it, the prospects might not be brilliant but what matters more is you actually putting the effort into getting experience during your degree. If you do that then you're in a better position than a lot of graduates who have good grades in 'good' subjects but little experience.
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Reply 39
Original post by SnoochToTheBooch
well if that sounds good to you then go for it, but I don't imagine medicine would be any less stressful than engineering, and it'll probably be a longer course. I wouldn't worry about the maths aspect either. If you can handle maths now, you can handle maths later. The engineering maths won't be any worse than the physics maths, and I promise you the maths for undergraduate physics is not THAT bad (usually). It's all learnable, there is very little maths I met at undergraduate level that I would call extreme. I'm no genius and I got through it fine. You do so much mathematics that it becomes automatic, and you tend to use the same bits of maths over and over. For medicine I guess you need probably maths, biology, chemistry.

Either way if you wanna make serious money then there are no shortcuts, unless you're selling drugs, pussy or salvation.


lool at the last bit.

i'm not sure because i thought of doing sports science because of my interest with sports but then i find that the career prospects are quite poor, then there's the thought of being a sports medicine doctor but to do this i have to a medicine degree and this involves studying all these fiddly little microscopic things i hate .... but I do enjoy studying anatomy related to training i.e. how muscles respond to types of training but i'm not sure how far this interest will carry me, especially when blood and surgery come into play :O so now it seems that there's equal chance of doing a degree that i'm not going to enjoy as with engineering
aaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrgggggghhhhhhh fml

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