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Help with Logarithm?

Hey guys can anyone give me some pointers on how to go about solving the following?

I tried a) but think I messed up big style?






For a) I started (after some guidance from an internet source)...


log(4x)=7.2

log(4x)=36/5

4x=e^36/5

x=e^36/5
........4



So, completely wrong?

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Reply 1
Original post by Spudhead
Hey guys can anyone give me some pointers on how to go about solving the following?

I tried a) but think I messed up big style?






For a) I started (after some guidance from an internet source)...


log(4x)=7.2

log(4x)=36/5

4x=e^36/5

x=e^36/5
........4



So, completely wrong?


Are you expected to come out with a decimal answer to a certain number of places?

For (a) I would start by using the standard law of logs: log(ab) = log a + log b
Reply 2
Original post by Spudhead


So, completely wrong?


No

But you could have just left it as

x=e7.24x = \dfrac{e^{7.2}}{4}
Reply 3
Original post by davros
Are you expected to come out with a decimal answer to a certain number of places?

For (a) I would start by using the standard law of logs: log(ab) = log a + log b




Thanks, I'll go back and flick through my notes on all the laws of logarithms. Its getting too much for me.


Doing my degree in BioMedical Science, which Im good at. But they're making us do all this Maths, which is of no use to my degree specifically including the log stuff. We've got 8 weeks to learn it at 3 x50 minute lectures per week then a formal examination at the end.


Stressed! haha
Reply 4
Original post by Spudhead
Thanks, I'll go back and flick through my notes on all the laws of logarithms. Its getting too much for me.


Doing my degree in BioMedical Science, which Im good at. But they're making us do all this Maths, which is of no use to my degree specifically including the log stuff. We've got 8 weeks to learn it at 3 x50 minute lectures per week then a formal examination at the end.


Stressed! haha


I'd actually imagine that logs would be quite useful for describing laws of biology and chemistry!! Keep at it - these questions aren't too bad when you've done a few.
Reply 5
Original post by TenOfThem
No

But you could have just left it as

x=e7.24x = \dfrac{e^{7.2}}{4}




Thanks so I should write my answer as


a) log(4x)=7.2

4x=e^7.2

x=e^7.2
.......4





At first I wasn't sure if I had to work it out with Log10. Like this..

a) log(4x)=7.2


10^7.2=4x


x = 10^7.2
.........4


15848931.92
.......4

x=3962232.98
Reply 6
Original post by Spudhead
Thanks so I should write my answer as


a) log(4x)=7.2

4x=e^7.2

x=e^7.2
.......4





At first I wasn't sure if I had to work it out with Log10. Like this..

a) log(4x)=7.2


10^7.2=4x


x = 10^7.2
.........4


15848931.92
.......4

x=3962232.98


sorry you are correct ... so tuned into ln :frown:

x=107.24x = \dfrac{10^{7.2}}{4}
Reply 7
Original post by davros
I'd actually imagine that logs would be quite useful for describing laws of biology and chemistry!! Keep at it - these questions aren't too bad when you've done a few.


Maybe you're right. I just keep telling myself "it'll all be worth it in the end". :biggrin:

Original post by TenOfThem
sorry you are correct ... so tuned into ln :frown:

x=107.24x = \dfrac{10^{7.2}}{4}



Haha no worries. So my second answer above (or first initial answer was correct) Good to know my instincts was correct afterall.


Im going to tackle question B and I shall be back in a second with an answer. :confused:
Reply 8
Original post by Spudhead



Im going to tackle question B and I shall be back in a second with an answer. :confused:


ok :smile:
Reply 9
Original post by TenOfThem
ok :smile:



b) in(2x)=5.2


x = e^5.2
.........2


e^5.2=181.2722419


181.2722419
........2

=90.63612094.......



x=90.63612094
Original post by Spudhead
b) in(2x)=5.2


x = e^5.2
.........2


e^5.2=181.2722419


181.2722419
........2

=90.63612094.......



x=90.63612094


:biggrin:
Reply 11
Original post by TenOfThem
:biggrin:




That's good right? Haha.


Well happy now. I shall attempt C and D together and will be back! Muahaha.
Original post by Spudhead
That's good right? Haha.


Well happy now. I shall attempt C and D together and will be back! Muahaha.


:smile:
Reply 13
Original post by TenOfThem
:smile:



started with C, although this one seems alot more complicated than the others.

Do I subtract the powers from one another?


c) in(x^3)-in(x^2)=1


x^3-x^2=x or 1??? :confused:


Then is it e^1 = 2.718281828




Ive done it this way, but to be honest. Im not 100% sure why? haha.
Reply 14
usually if log is written without a base then it's base 10 - so is lg

ln, as you know is base e

so to solve log 4x = 7.2 you quite rightly say 4x = 10^7.2 etc

and for ln 2x = 5.2 2x = e^5.2 etc - your answers are right

good luck with parts c and d !!
Reply 15
Original post by TheManor
usually if log is written without a base then it's base 10 - so is lg

ln, as you know is base e

so to solve log 4x = 7.2 you quite rightly say 4x = 10^7.2 etc

and for ln 2x = 5.2 2x = e^5.2 etc - your answers are right

good luck with parts c and d !!



Thanks. Yes part c and d are alot more tricky, or at least thats how they seem upon first look.
Original post by Spudhead


Do I subtract the powers from one another?


yes


c) in(x^3)-in(x^2)=1



ln(x3)ln(x2)=ln(x3x2)=lnx=1ln(x^3)-ln(x^2) = ln(\frac{x^3}{x^2}) = lnx = 1

so

x = e


NOTE

It is ln, not in
Reply 17
without doing (d) for you

clue ... use the fact that n log a = log (a^n) e.g. 2 log 3 = log 3^2 = log 9

AND the fact that log a - log b = log (a/b) .... that should get you on the right track ....
Reply 18
Original post by TenOfThem
yes


ln(x3)ln(x2)=ln(x3x2)=lnx=1ln(x^3)-ln(x^2) = ln(\frac{x^3}{x^2}) = lnx = 1

so

x = e


NOTE

It is ln, not in





Thanks yeah I keep forgetting to hit shift when typing and write it lowercase. Sorry if this is repeating what you said basically but Im tryna drill it in my head and Im tired. Haha.

So I divide the exponents, x^3/x^2

Which then gives me Inx after the exponents have been subtracted.

Inx=1

The "=1" bit if from the original "=1" at the end of the question. If that makes sense?

So e^1 = x?
Reply 19
correct x = e^1 = e

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