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Girls: Would you sign a prenup?

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Reply 60
Original post by Jadelyndsey
Been with my boyfriend for 2 years. We've broken up once before (for a day, I should add...) and neither of us were bitter. It's not in his nature, and I just couldn't do that to him. Although I do realize that divorces can be difficult and may result in horrendously traumatic break-ups. My best friends parents are currently undergoing a divorce, and her dad is being a total arse - nothing like he used to be.


My best friends parents are currently undergoing a divorce, and her dad is being a total arse - nothing like he used to be


That's kinda my point - divorce turns ordinarily sensible people into total idiots, and its something I've seen personally, especially when children are involved.

Been with my boyfriend for 2 years. We've broken up once before (for a day, I should add...)


Sorry, but a one day breakup is nowhere comparable to a divorce
Reply 61
Original post by Jadelyndsey
Been with my boyfriend for 2 years. We've broken up once before (for a day, I should add...) and neither of us were bitter. It's not in his nature, and I just couldn't do that to him. Although I do realize that divorces can be difficult and may result in horrendously traumatic break-ups. My best friends parents are currently undergoing a divorce, and her dad is being a total arse - nothing like he used to be.


At this stage you haven't got a house or children to fight over. That changes things completely. Hope you never have to go through it.
Personally I think that in a divorce the assets should be split as a percentage of your earnings. Ie. To keep things simple, I over their marriage on average the woman earned £60,000/year and the husband £40,000 then the woman would get 60% and the man 40%(Obviously with things such as a house or cars its not that simple), or vice-versa if the man earned more.
Original post by Baybars
At this stage you haven't got a house or children to fight over. That changes things completely. Hope you never have to go through it.


Even then, I'd still leave the house we had together, and try not to disrupt the children's lives as much as possible. Only I know how I behave in situations, and I know that if I ever happen to be so unlucky as to have a divorce, I will not need any heavy involvement with lawyers etc because I will be able to talk to my husband about it and reach an appropriate decision.
Reply 64
Original post by Jadelyndsey
I have never been a one for money. I'm poor, have no affinity with money, and neither does my boyfriend. For this reason, I know for a fact that divorce will not be an issue for me in my current relationship if I happen to get divorced. It's not naivety, it's the truth. What's the point in battling over things that mean very little to you? Even if he changed over the years, I'd be more than happy to walk out of the relationship with only the clothes on my back. Like I've said once and I will say again, I really couldn't give a crap about money. :smile:


You're deluded.
Original post by Arnob204
You're deluded.


If that means I don't need fancy and expensive lawyers to sort out a relationship or an ending of one then that's fine by me my friend.
Reply 66
Original post by Dan1607
The simple answer is not to get married in this modern society.
If you are religious, you can just get married in the eyes of the church.
I have no intention to get married in the eyes of the law which is based and structured by morally banktrupt politicans and judges.


Trying telling a lass that, all she will hear is "I don't love you and only want you for sex".
Original post by Jadelyndsey
I have never been a one for money. I'm poor, have no affinity with money, and neither does my boyfriend. For this reason, I know for a fact that divorce will not be an issue for me in my current relationship if I happen to get divorced. It's not naivety, it's the truth. What's the point in battling over things that mean very little to you? Even if he changed over the years, I'd be more than happy to walk out of the relationship with only the clothes on my back. Like I've said once and I will say again, I really couldn't give a crap about money. :smile:
I don't think being poor changes anything. When you have poured you entire life into your family home, into your savings, everything you have worked for in your life the stakes get a little higher. You are also assuming that you will not feel bitter or jilted which most of the time one person does. When you get to the court room and find, he's going to try and say your savings are his saving because they came out of his pay check while you paid bills, when the loving husband you have been married to turns out to have another agenda you might not be so happy to walk away with nothing. As in the example I gave earlier, you might not feel so calm when you husband wants to leave you for you best friend or drop you for a girl 10 years younger.

I feel this way because I have some personal experience. My parents went through a bitter two year divorce, fighting in a way you would never expect people to do. My god mother is a partner at a firm which specialises in family law. The things people do when splitting up and money is involved know no bounds, and all these people are shocked when it happens. None of them think their partner will act like they do. As she told me, the best divorces, the ones where there is the least ill will is one in which finances are kept separate.
Original post by doggyfizzel
I don't think being poor changes anything. When you have poured you entire life into your family home, into your savings, everything you have worked for in your life the stakes get a little higher. You are also assuming that you will not feel bitter or jilted which most of the time one person does. When you get to the court room and find, he's going to try and say your savings are his saving because they came out of his pay check while you paid bills, when the loving husband you have been married to turns out to have another agenda you might not be so happy to walk away with nothing. As in the example I gave earlier, you might not feel so calm when you husband wants to leave you for you best friend or drop you for a girl 10 years younger.

I feel this way because I have some personal experience. My parents went through a bitter two year divorce, fighting in a way you would never expect people to do. My god mother is a partner at a firm which specialises in family law. The things people do when splitting up and money is involved know no bounds, and all these people are shocked when it happens. None of them think their partner will act like they do. As she told me, the best divorces, the ones where there is the least ill will is one in which finances are kept separate.


I 100% appreciate your opinion, and I understand that divorces can become painstakingly excruciating when people being to show faces that aren't their own, I still stick with my original answer :smile: I hope your parents are through the worst of it though, and I hope you and your family are happier now.
Reply 69
Women tend to have this wistful fairytale fantasy in which one day both partners sit on a sofa and have an amiable conversation about how "It isn't working out" and after a cup of tea they wish each other the best of luck and go their separate ways.

It has no bearing on reality.
Your username OP, it is just WOW!
Original post by Dan1607
The simple answer is not to get married in this modern society.
If you are religious, you can just get married in the eyes of the church.
I have no intention to get married in the eyes of the law which is based and structured by morally banktrupt politicans and judges.


Dunno, part of me suspects an ex wife could probably get a lawyer to convince a civil court that your marriage in the eyes of your faith warrant in some capacity a legally binding marriage contract.

I wouldn't want to marry a woman who would recoil so much at a pre-nup seeing as I am so thoroughly skeptical of marriage that to bring me to the point of desiring it, the woman would have to prove to be an especially reliable solid and sure bet.

That is she would have to be literally the one and only and I was all but completely 100% sure that we were going to last the distance.

But it never hurts to cover my ass and the one for me would be pretty comfortable with signing a legal agreement that in the case of divorce she is going to be mature and adult enough to not try and leech off my estate and assets and financially **** me in the ass.


A pre-nup basically makes things fairer thus taking away the overly obscene financial incentive of a divorce, which means it's less likely to be an issue that a consideration for divorce is based on "how can I profit from this?" and remains very much an issue of "Do I still love this person enough to remain married?" like it should be.
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Reply 72
Original post by Jadelyndsey
If that means I don't need fancy and expensive lawyers to sort out a relationship or an ending of one then that's fine by me my friend.


No it means your views change as you grow older, as you spend a greater part of your life with someone if that relationship breaks down it will cause you more pain and you won't be able to simply shake hands and walk away.
Original post by Baybars
No it means your views change as you grow older, as you spend a greater part of your life with someone if that relationship breaks down it will cause you more pain and you won't be able to simply shake hands and walk away.


I'll agree to disagree with you. :smile:
Reply 74
Original post by Studentus-anonymous
Dunno, part of me suspects an ex wife could probably get a lawyer to convince a civil court that your marriage in the eyes of your faith warrant in some capacity a legally binding marriage contract.

I wouldn't want to marry a woman who would recoil so much at a pre-nup seeing as I am so thoroughly skeptical of marriage that to bring me to the point of desiring it, the woman would have to prove to be an especially reliable solid and sure bet.

That is she would have to be literally the one and only and I was all but completely 100% sure that we were going to last the distance.

But it never hurts to cover my ass and the one for me would be pretty comfortable with signing a legal agreement that in the case of divorce she is going to be mature and adult enough to not try and leech off my estate and assets and financially **** me in the ass.


http://www.prenuptialagreementsuk.co.uk/enf-prenuptial-agreements-uk.php

Are prenuptial agreements enforceable in the UK?

Yes, UK prenuptial agreements are enforceable provided they are properly entered into and there is no overriding reason that would prevent the court from adopting the provisions of the agreement.

People often think that it is not worth getting a prenuptial agreement because it will not be enforceable in the United Kingdom.

In fact, this is quite wrong. The UK courts are increasingly disposed to adopt provisions of prenuptial agreements UK policy is now broadly to enforce these provisions provided that they do not conflict with the Section 25 criteria and would not lead to an unjust result.

This means that the court does have complete discretion in applying the terms of a prenuptial agreement and will only enforce it to the extent the court considers that it is equitable to adopt the agreement in the specific circumstances of any given case.

Nevertheless, the UK courts will take prenuptial agreements into account and are increasingly likely to apply some, or all, of the provisions in determining an overall financial settlement.


Still sounds like you would be at the mercy of the court.
there absolutely useless in the uk and hold no legal merit, so yeah if it makes the other person more comfortable why not
Reply 76
Pro-tip. Pre-nups aren't worth the paper they're written on in the UK.
Reply 77
Original post by Fat-Love
Pro-tip. Pre-nups aren't worth the paper they're written on in the UK.


Yes, UK prenuptial agreements are enforceable provided they are properly entered into and there is no overriding reason that would prevent the court from adopting the provisions of the agreement.

People often think that it is not worth getting a prenuptial agreement because it will not be enforceable in the United Kingdom.

In fact, this is quite wrong. The UK courts are increasingly disposed to adopt provisions of prenuptial agreements UK policy is now broadly to enforce these provisions provided that they do not conflict with the Section 25 criteria and would not lead to an unjust result.


http://www.prenuptialagreementsuk.co.uk/enf-prenuptial-agreements-uk.php
I think if you cannot trust your partner not to go for half of your assets, then you shouldnt be marrying them anyway. I once went out with a man who inherited a substantial sum. He would talk amongst the men at work about how he would never marry me. He came into the money after we got together, and I never expected any of it. It is an insult to your partner to assume you need protecting from them financially. For the people who get asked to sign one I think they should leave their partners to count their cash and get on with their lives. For those who want one, they shouldnt be getting married.
Reply 79
Original post by Baybars
There's nothing wrong with your sentiment but unfortunately divorce's are rarely amicable. Dan1607 is spot on.


okay i see where your coming from. I guess if i'm asked I would consider it now i've read a bit more about it.

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