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Political Position?
There's a similar thread in the LSE forum, and as I was told one of UCL's priciples is some kind of a-political behaviour, I wondered which political position the majority of the students and the whole university have. Is it more left or right wing?
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Pinguin
There's a similar thread in the LSE forum, and as I was told one of UCL's priciples is some kind of a-political behaviour, I wondered which political position the majority of the students and the whole university have. Is it more left or right wing?
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Yeah, I wondered as well, cause I saw all these philosophy and political sciences tutors' pages on ucl.ac.uk/esps, all being said to have an interest in "labour politics" and stuff. Well, Sure I don't mind, I'm myself a socialist. But I mean, if someone could tell us the political "colour" of UCL, that'd be great.
I think I read somewhere that it was rather left-wing due (partly) to the opposition Strand Poly / UCL, and that the other institution was very monarchist and stuff wereas UCL was much more liberal and open...anybody god info about this?
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Most people I know are liberal. UCL (ie the university itself) is proud of its liberal foundations and is incredibly open minded.
You do get some tories, and some socialists but most people I know are centre.
Funnily enough our ex council chair Luca Manfredi was pretty far right. He said stuff along the lines of "if i had a gay son I would kill him" he lasted a few months after the LGBT soc basically declared war on him (who can blame them?). He was also ULU chair and lasted a few months.
Here is something on his ULU tenure
http://www.felixonline.co.uk/v2/article.php?id=2724
Google his name and you can find the actual remarks.
You do get some tories, and some socialists but most people I know are centre.
Funnily enough our ex council chair Luca Manfredi was pretty far right. He said stuff along the lines of "if i had a gay son I would kill him" he lasted a few months after the LGBT soc basically declared war on him (who can blame them?). He was also ULU chair and lasted a few months.
Here is something on his ULU tenure
http://www.felixonline.co.uk/v2/article.php?id=2724
Google his name and you can find the actual remarks.
To state the obvious, the majority of academics, across all subjects, are left-wing. I forget the statistics for the UK, but in the USA, even economics lecturers are 2:1 Democrat-Republican. I'll take a guess that UCL may have almost no right-wing members of staff in subjects like literature, anthropology and social sciences.
Bloomsbury stinkers are all LibDems - usless wastes of space.
...And alcoholics and closet gays
...And alcoholics and closet gays
OppressedMass
Bloomsbury stinkers are all LibDems - usless wastes of space.
...And alcoholics and closet gays
...And alcoholics and closet gays
We'd have Oscar Wilde's endorsement then...
Liberal as in libertarian.
Democrats are about as left wing as most would consider going in the USA. Although that isn't very far.
Right wing in the UK, Conservative party (usually). You also get UKIP and BNP. Beyond that you're looking at Combat 18 and the like.
UCL is diverse and while officially apolitical, areligious etc. most of the student body have a view when it comes to politics. Many of them, a very strong one.
Democrats are about as left wing as most would consider going in the USA. Although that isn't very far.
Right wing in the UK, Conservative party (usually). You also get UKIP and BNP. Beyond that you're looking at Combat 18 and the like.
UCL is diverse and while officially apolitical, areligious etc. most of the student body have a view when it comes to politics. Many of them, a very strong one.
Liberal as in libertarian.
'Whig', with particular relevance to UCL...
President_Ben
Liberal as in libertarian.
Democrats are about as left wing as most would consider going in the USA. Although that isn't very far.
Right wing in the UK, Conservative party (usually). You also get UKIP and BNP. Beyond that you're looking at Combat 18 and the like.
UCL is diverse and while officially apolitical, areligious etc. most of the student body have a view when it comes to politics. Many of them, a very strong one.
Democrats are about as left wing as most would consider going in the USA. Although that isn't very far.
Right wing in the UK, Conservative party (usually). You also get UKIP and BNP. Beyond that you're looking at Combat 18 and the like.
UCL is diverse and while officially apolitical, areligious etc. most of the student body have a view when it comes to politics. Many of them, a very strong one.
there are stuff even more far-right than the BNP?
By way of curiosity, what is on the left of the New Labour? Is there a communist party in the UK? I heard Ken Livingstone was a communist, sounded weird to me...
There is a co-operative party who co-opt there votes to Labour. The eminence grise of the Treasury, Ed Balls, is an MP for them.
Combat 18 are indeed much more far-right than the BNP, who their members will probably also be affiliated with. I have (to my misfortune) met some of their members. '1' and '8' are the numbers corresponding to Adolf Hitler's initials.
Combat 18 are indeed much more far-right than the BNP, who their members will probably also be affiliated with. I have (to my misfortune) met some of their members. '1' and '8' are the numbers corresponding to Adolf Hitler's initials.
Lefter than Labour. Arguably, the Greens.
Definitely, Respect. CPGB (Communist Party of Great Britain). SWP (Socialists Workers Party). Numerous anarchist groups/affiliations (who squatted one of the UCL buildings on Gower Street undergoing development last year pre-G8 and used it as a hub of activity and as a social centre).
Definitely, Respect. CPGB (Communist Party of Great Britain). SWP (Socialists Workers Party). Numerous anarchist groups/affiliations (who squatted one of the UCL buildings on Gower Street undergoing development last year pre-G8 and used it as a hub of activity and as a social centre).
Greens are certainly more left of labour. From my own personal experience of them I found that underneath the surface there was alot of "hard left" views. (I once was naive and young and joined them)
Id disagree that most of UCL's students have a strong political views. Look at the elections for SABBS, something like 10% of the students actually voted. The NUS referendum didnt exactly set the campus on fire. I took part in UCL's official march against top up fees when the commons voted on it. Only about 60 ppl came from UCL. Basically I'd say generally most students at UCL have moderately liberal views. You get the odd few socialists, and the odd tory (though less common), but mainly you get indifferent liberalism
Id disagree that most of UCL's students have a strong political views. Look at the elections for SABBS, something like 10% of the students actually voted. The NUS referendum didnt exactly set the campus on fire. I took part in UCL's official march against top up fees when the commons voted on it. Only about 60 ppl came from UCL. Basically I'd say generally most students at UCL have moderately liberal views. You get the odd few socialists, and the odd tory (though less common), but mainly you get indifferent liberalism
Only about 60 ppl came from UCL.
Maybe the other students' strong political views led them to believe that middle-class students complaining about having to pay a little more for their heavily subsidised degrees is a bit... rich. (As an example of a strong political view that could have led to the situation you describe.)
PrinceOfCats
There is a co-operative party who co-opt there votes to Labour. The eminence grise of the Treasury, Ed Balls, is an MP for them.
Combat 18 are indeed much more far-right than the BNP, who their members will probably also be affiliated with. I have (to my misfortune) met some of their members. '1' and '8' are the numbers corresponding to Adolf Hitler's initials.
Combat 18 are indeed much more far-right than the BNP, who their members will probably also be affiliated with. I have (to my misfortune) met some of their members. '1' and '8' are the numbers corresponding to Adolf Hitler's initials.
jesus bloody christ. Isn't that kind of things forbidden? Like, neonazism and revisionism and stuff?
President_Ben
Lefter than Labour. Arguably, the Greens.
Definitely, Respect. CPGB (Communist Party of Great Britain). SWP (Socialists Workers Party). Numerous anarchist groups/affiliations (who squatted one of the UCL buildings on Gower Street undergoing development last year pre-G8 and used it as a hub of activity and as a social centre).
Definitely, Respect. CPGB (Communist Party of Great Britain). SWP (Socialists Workers Party). Numerous anarchist groups/affiliations (who squatted one of the UCL buildings on Gower Street undergoing development last year pre-G8 and used it as a hub of activity and as a social centre).
nice. So, far-righters and far-leftists. Sounds fun. Any democratic people in the middle?
Ashman
Greens are certainly more left of labour. From my own personal experience of them I found that underneath the surface there was alot of "hard left" views. (I once was naive and young and joined them)
Fair enough.
Id disagree that most of UCL's students have a strong political views. Look at the elections for SABBS, something like 10% of the students actually voted. The NUS referendum didnt exactly set the campus on fire. I took part in UCL's official march against top up fees when the commons voted on it. Only about 60 ppl came from UCL. Basically I'd say generally most students at UCL have moderately liberal views. You get the odd few socialists, and the odd tory (though less common), but mainly you get indifferent liberalism
Sabbs, 16% turnout. Same as Oxbridge. To be honest, Union elections are not 'politics' in the sense most are thinking about. In fact, SU politics is a bit **** and this year, in terms of running candidates, I think many of them were lackluster which says more about the precarious position of the Union (financially above all) than anything else. The Union has big cash problems and the cutbacks won't solve them, my opinion. It needs to grow out of them - but I fear the ability to do that is now lost or about to disappear.
On the NUS referendum, that says a lot about the NUS (it is ****, no one cares about it and the most anyone cares is the discounts which you can get anyway). For the NUS march on top-up fees, the overall turnout was **** from all unis in London and many who otherwise came down just wanted a cheap ride down to London before doing other things. Mandy Telford, well, less said about her the better in my opinion. But didn't really help the also precarious situation in the NUS which is hack inside-out.
I live in a wealthy area of the U.S. and most of my friends (and myself) are very socialist and or liberal. Bush ****ed everything up for his party and most of the country, regardless of social class, is shunning the conservative ideology at the moment. When you have the CEO of Exxon/Mobile getting $400 million in retirement compensation when the price of oil is through the roof, there is something wrong with that
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