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More people = more tax = more money for the NHS therefore it can expand to meet demand.

Also the government is more than able to curb immigration if and when it becomes and issue.

Without the immigration of nurses to the UK the NHS would have been ****ed a long time ago.

Lets be honest the biggest strain on the NHS is the elderly. Maybe we should deport them and bring in able bodied people instead? After all that is what would be best for the NHS?

And you actually believe that government backed pro immigration propaganda?! Funny how another report out at the same time totally contradicted these results. The govt are depserate to hoodwink the population into the fallacy that immigration has been good for the country. It hasn't.

Some politicians now admit it has displaced and devalued the low skilled British worker.

What was it? Of 2million jobs created under labour 99% went to people from outside of the uk! What's the point in having these jobs if not to benefit the people of the country, we may as well have just sent the money abroad straight away to save us the hassle.

Look around you, how many British people do you see working in bars, hotels, restaurants? Let alone factories, historically these jobs would be the fist step on the ladder for our young people now many are languishing on the dole because of mass immigration.

It's not rocket science. We have 2million+ unemployed, there have been nearly 10million extra people in the country over the last 13 years, if those people hadn't come we'd have full employment. Quite straight forward really.

Not when we're importing millions of extra people who can't/won't work and are a huge net drain on the welfare state and economy. Do you imagine that all immigrants go straight into a job? 70% of immigrants from outside of the EU are unemployed and non EU immigraion makes up the overwhelming majority of immigration. You only get taxes from those in work. We might as well be flushing our money down the drain.
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So wait now immigrants aren't working at all? Half of the immigration skeptics are claiming the immigrants are taking all the jobs, and the other half are claiming none of them want to work. Which is it?

TBH sounds like it's straight from the daily mails mouth, one minute the immigrants and foreigners are taking all the jobs, the next minute they are all coming here and going on the dole.

Oh please. What a total lack of nuance. Surely it's not that hard to understand?

I'll spell it out for you. We have such a huge amount of immigration that it is perfectly possible (as it's happening) to have a large proportion of unskilled migrants from the 3rd world who are going stright to the benefits offfice at the same time as having a large number of highly motivated low/medium skilled work force from Eastern Europe who are working for less and displacing the lower end of the British workforce.

It's really not difficult to grap despite your aparent lack of ability to undertsnd this simple concept instead of making false polarisations of the situation and pathetic straw man arguments.

Nice own goal there

'some NHS trusts'

also not balanced against money being brought in.

That doesnt explain the 600 people who downvoted the comment that Race doesn't matter, the person does.

Erm no actually it wasn't an own goal by any means. The report I sourced even pointed out that with an increase in population brought an increase in consumer demand and created more jobs and driving a multiplier. This is basic economics.

The reason we have so many unemployed is A) we are never going to have full employment immigrants or not, as far as I'm aware we've never had full employment, even before immigrants started coming and B) if you didn't notice, we had a market crash in 2008 then a recession unfortunately one of the effect of a recession is increased unemployment. So even without immigrants we would still have high levels of unemployment. This is not something that is new to this country or the world for that matter, we have always gone through a boom and bust, with a boom we have low unemployment with a bust we have high unemployment. You only have to go as far back and the early 90s and late 80s to see the relatively similar situation that we were in. And this was before labour "opened the borders".

Now you can shout "you made a strawman argument" all you want but given you cannot even provide one source of information to back up this claim that without immigrants we'd have full employment and since I counter this claim (again of which you cannot provide a source for) it's rather hypocritical of you to claim I'm using a "strawman argument".

race does matter though. it matters to everyone else. the only people who are supposed to not think that it matters are 'white' people.

thats not basic economics at all. if mass immigration was a benefit. if it increased demand the economy would be soaring by default. only it is not.

Race shouldn't matter. It doesn't matter to me and to a lot of other people.

Saying "its ok to be racist because most people are racist" is not an argument, its literally idiotic.

Except you are assuming ceterus parabus, which is obviously *******s.

For all you know without the positive effect of immigration over the last decade, Britain could be in a much worse economic position.

being racially aware if not racism though.

there is no positive benefits of mass immigration.

they not only saturate the job market, driving down wages and pitting the poor and working class into dog eat dog competition for jobs,

they are also massive burdens on the welfare system.

the only immigration which is positive is targeted immigration to specific job shortages.

thats not basic economics at all. if mass immigration was a benefit. if it increased demand the economy would be soaring by default. only it is not.