Should I Leave the UK?

When I see posts that are this unimaginably stupid, I wonder how the poster ever learnt to type something that resembles coherent English.

And when I see a post like this, I wish I had a quid for every time a person uses insults because they cannot construct a retort

I think next you should play the
"Your spelling is poor card"
then the anti-semetic card,
then insult where I go to university, and mention your academia.

Thats almost as good as a well thought argument.

It's quite clear that Israel has and continues to commit war crimes against humanity. I'm not against Jews at all and consider them as my brothers and sisters truly, however what I am strongly against is Zionism and the force it continues to exerts on the Palestinians since their expulsion in 1948 following the Balfour declaration (british pm of the time sent a letter to senior a Rothchild outlining the need for establishment of an independent state for the Jews).


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and yet:




r u a moron? or a troll. if you're a troll you can stay, else go ahead and leave

until Israel stops terrorising Palestine, no zionist jew should be welcome in the UK. Would we have welcomed proponents of apartheid?

Let's hope he doesn't start lobbing white phosphorus at anyone who disagrees with him. This guy is a joke.
If you truly feel victimised then deal with it or leave. Don't whinge about it on a forum, it's pathetic.

Can I see some evidence please?
Also, you need to get your history right. In 1948, the Arab nations were so confident in victory in what later became known as the War of Independence that they encouraged the Palestinians to leave what would become Israel to 'get out of the way'. Those that left were not resettled by the countries they went to (although they should have been, it was those countries' fault they were stuck there). Those that didn't leave became Israeli citizens, and enjoy more freedom as Israelis than citizens of any Arab country.

I am an 18-year-old student, who is Jewish. I'm not in any way ashamed of this, and I wear a kippah just about everywhere I go.
However, I am starting to get the sense that Great Britain as a country does not think I should be proud of who I am. Anti-Semitism is on the rise (I have been the victim of anti-Semitic abuse myself), and the so-called 'liberal left' seems to think that I can't see through their masquerade, pretending that their anti-Israel opinions represent the truth, and that they hold these views purely out of solidarity with the Palestinians, and not at all because they think that Jews are rich puppet masters who control the world. I see a left attacking Israel with increasing vitriol, and increased fervour. I see a left which now seems to believe just about any of the lies said about Israel. Amongst the left, the sick, twisted, evil and untrue notion that Israel took part in ethnic cleansing in 1948 and since seems now to be accepted as truth and gospel, despite there being not a single shred of evidence in favour of these beliefs (please don't quote Deir Yassin at me. The crimes that took place there were horrible, and should (and have) never been repeated by people fighting for an independent Jewish state. I'm not justifying what happened, I'm claiming it was an aberration, an isolated point in history). I see a left which seems to be wandering into the trap set by fundamentalist (I deliberately mean to exclude moderate, liberal and secular Muslims, most of whom seem to be wise to this threat, and jolly nice people as well) Islam.
However, it is not this that upsets me. It is not that there is a minority of people who direct vitirolic hate towards Israel and the Jews. This has always and will always be the case with a minority group. What upsets me is that people are increasingly going along with this madness. It is becoming more and more accepted that the views of the left are virtuous and that all the left is doing is standing up for the little guy. There is a sense among the general public that those who are repeatedly and blatantly lying about imagined crimes Israel has not and will never commit are merely standing up for the Palestinians. Within the mainstream media (I mean the BBC, the Sunday Times, I don't consider the Guardian to be mainstream any more) there is a growing sense that these so-called defenders of the Palestinians are correct. That is what really worries me.
I am genuinely scared that soon a situation arises in this country where those who stand up for Israel are treated as extremists, cranks and lunatics, on the same level as someone who were to defend Bashar-al-Assad. When this happens, I'm out of here.
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/douglas-murray/2013/01/should-jews-leave-britain/

What do you mean, deal with it? I don't really see why I should accept racism and victimisation...

Can I see some evidence please?
Also, you need to get your history right. In 1948, the Arab nations were so confident in victory in what later became known as the War of Independence that they encouraged the Palestinians to leave what would become Israel to 'get out of the way'. Those that left were not resettled by the countries they went to (although they should have been, it was those countries' fault they were stuck there). Those that didn't leave became Israeli citizens, and enjoy more freedom as Israelis than citizens of any Arab country.

I am sorry that you have faced anti-Semitism and sorry that it is on the rise in Europe yet again but you are wrong to blame the left for it. Most of the people who would carry out anti-Semitic attacks are right-wing racists who would also attack Muslims and others who they deem a threat to a British society (Islamophobia is also on the rise, more so than anti-Semitism). I am a Palestinian rights activist (though I have a concern for all human rights) and think that the Palestinians have suffered ethnic cleansing and are suffering apartheid at the hands of the Israeli government. Does this mean that I would hate a Jew just because he/she is Jewish? Absolutely not. I am perfectly capable of distinguishing the average Jew from the Israeli government and so are all of the other supporters of the Palestinian cause I know.

I hope that you're not one of those people implying that those who criticise Israel are anti-Semitic, I am familiar with this form of blackmail and am unfazed by it.

moderators on this forum are blocking my comments otherwise u would see that Israel is a war criminal. For ur peace of mind that they are please read the United Nations investigation published in September 2009 which concluded that there was “evidence indicating serious violations of international human rights and humanitarian law were committed by Israel during the Gaza conflict, and that Israel committed actions amounting to war crimes, and possibly crimes against humanity.”

First of all, I do appreciate that not all critics of Israel hate Jews. However, I think that those who actively hate Israel and everything it does (hate, not criticise) do hate Jews.
I, however, have to disagree with you on the ethnic cleansing front, because it simply has not happened. There is not a single shred of evidence. I have a lot of sympathy for the Palestinians, they are classic victims of an oppresive regime. The Palestinian leadership, mainly Hamas, but to a lesser extent, other ruling factions, play the classic propaganda tactic of diverting attention away from their own oppressive leadership by constantly demonising the enemy without, and as a result, they are stuck between a rock and a hard place, and have been duped into becoming their own worst enemy in the pursuit of peace.

No you should not leave.

I am kinda liberal, leftist myself and I don't know why the left wing media portrays only the Israelis as the bad guys. I don't think it has anything to do with anti-Semitism but more to do with standing up for the little guy as you put it. People just like to cheer for the underdog, I think.

You should not take it as a sign of anti Jewish or anti Israeli sentiment but present your case..that is the only way to change hearts and minds.