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Original post by a10
APDL


Ah, APDL, it's been a while.
In a few weeks I've got to teach a workshop about an engineering subject to a bunch of year 9s with the intention that it should be somehow related to submarines and be focused around a practical activity. I've got the vague idea that I'd like to incorporate the difference between form drag / friction drag into the workshop, since I really liked learning about that during this paper rocket making thing I did as a kid. That's the only idea I've got really, and I'm not sure how to incorporate that into an activity.

Does anyone remember what they would have liked to learn about in year 9? Any thoughts on this thing would be appreciated.
Original post by jholzer
In a few weeks I've got to teach a workshop about an engineering subject to a bunch of year 9s with the intention that it should be somehow related to submarines and be focused around a practical activity. I've got the vague idea that I'd like to incorporate the difference between form drag / friction drag into the workshop, since I really liked learning about that during this paper rocket making thing I did as a kid. That's the only idea I've got really, and I'm not sure how to incorporate that into an activity.

Does anyone remember what they would have liked to learn about in year 9? Any thoughts on this thing would be appreciated.


No idea if this is any use...
http://rea.org.au/subs-in-schools/


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Thanks for showing me that, though it looks like a project to build a submarine in schools, I'm looking for an idea that will last ~ 70 minutes, I could've mentioned that sorry. Sort of like a once off lesson in something related to submarines with a practical activity.
Hey, is there usually spaces at top universities for mechanical engineering through adjustment?

If say I achieve A*A*A.

What universities would be likely to have spaces through adjustment in my case?
Original post by sjaan
Hey, is there usually spaces at top universities for mechanical engineering through adjustment?

If say I achieve A*A*A.

What universities would be likely to have spaces through adjustment in my case?


Depends what you mean by "top", but not Oxbridge or Imperial.
Original post by jneill
Depends what you mean by "top", but not Oxbridge or Imperial.

Other than Oxbridge and Imperial.

Top universities in terms of the course quality.
Original post by sjaan
Top universities in terms of the course quality.


How would you measure course quality?
Original post by Smack
How would you measure course quality?

The quality of lectures, labs, equipment, difficulty etc.

The universities which are looked favourably upon by employers due to how well mechanical engineering is taught and producing great engineers in terms of theory and practical.
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Original post by sjaan
The quality of lectures, labs, equipment, difficulty etc.

The universities which are looked favourably upon by employers due to how well mechanical engineering is taught and producing great engineers in terms of theory and practical.


Engineering employers don't care which university you went to.

And, bottomline, no-one can say who will be in Adjustment (there are not many Adjustment places per year) or, the much bigger, Clearing from year to year.

If you already hold a good Firm university I'd strongly suggest staying with that otherwise it can become a logistical challenge to get Adjustment offers, accomodation, finance, etc etc all sorted out in good time.
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Original post by sjaan
The quality of lectures, labs, equipment, difficulty etc.

The universities which are looked favourably upon by employers due to how well mechanical engineering is taught and producing great engineers in terms of theory and practical.


To be honest I'm not sure if there is all that distinction between courses ... graduates from all universities tend to need a lot of training on their first job, although certainly some universities have better equipment and labs than others, and visiting the universities you are interested in may help within finding this out.
Pick a course that's tailored to what you want to do after graduation, or if you are not sure what you want to do after uni, pick one that is flexible (i.e. allows discipline swap after first year or has a decent selection of optional modules).

I usually advise to not look a league tables, but they are useful for student satisfaction ratings. In terms of labs and equipment, all unis will let you use the workshop and have societies that can develop those skills (formula student for example). A common misconception is that if a uni has equipment x, y, and z, they'll let you use it. For most unis, to use it you need a really good reason as the equipment is not free. Also, risk assessments are a pain but a requirement for everything you do. If you want to use a piece of specialist equipment, chances are you'll need to be a postgrad/PhD student or higher.

As for adjustment, no point asking oxbridge or imperial. They'll tell you to apply the following cycle. They admit based on interview performance over grades as they know most students who apply will attain the set grades, they just can't accommodate that many.

I think all other unis reputable for engineering have listings in adjustment but there are some exceptions such as the aero eng degree at Bristol or engineering and finance at UCL.
How is university of birmingham for engineering?
I finish my undergrad tomorrow :woo:
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Original post by alexschmalex
I finish my undergrad tomorrow :woo:


BEng or MEng?

I'm jelly. Congrats!
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I am actually so torn on either leaving with an MEng or graduating with a BEng instead. I am not going to lie I am sick of this course however I don't actually regret studying engineering as I'm somewhat good at it surprisingly.


When I look at a variery of engineering job adverts 95% of them just say "must be degree qualified in engineering" and don't actually care whether you have an MEng or not. This is making me constantly question the value of the MEng and lets not forget the fact that 90% of the theoretical maths and physics content you learn in the degree is not actually used in the majority of real life engineering jobs infact i would even say 98% of jobs don't make much use of the content you learned.

I'm on the MEng currently and part of me wants to go with the BEng instead but the other part is just scared i may regret this choice in future? :frown:


Although when i look at it from a non bias standpoint the BEng has more pros than cons than the MEng in terms of having less debt, earn more + gain real job experience while everyone is still at uni thus I progress quicker.

Thoughts on this welcome!

@Smack @jneill @Like_A_G6
Original post by a10
I am actually so torn on either leaving with an MEng or graduating with a BEng instead. I am not going to lie I am sick of this course however I don't actually regret studying engineering as I'm somewhat good at it surprisingly.


When I look at a variery of engineering job adverts 95% of them just say "must be degree qualified in engineering" and don't actually care whether you have an MEng or not. This is making me constantly question the value of the MEng and lets not forget the fact that 90% of the theoretical maths and physics content you learn in the degree is not actually used in the majority of real life engineering jobs infact i would even say 98% of jobs don't make much use of the content you learned.

I'm on the MEng currently and part of me wants to go with the BEng instead but the other part is just scared i may regret this choice in future? :frown:


Although when i look at it from a non bias standpoint the BEng has more pros than cons than the MEng in terms of having less debt, earn more + gain real job experience while everyone is still at uni thus I progress quicker.

Thoughts on this welcome!

@Smack @jneill @Like_A_G6


A lot of those job adverts are likely for experienced engineers. Getting your foot in the door is easier with an MEng as many companies only accept or strongly prefer it, although it's certainly true that once you're in, your background doesn't matter as much, and both BEng and MEng are "degree qualified".

I have heard from people who did the BEng that they regret not doing the MEng, although I think the key benefit of the MEng is that it ticks the correct boxes that need to be ticked for chartership, hence why many of the big employers prefer it.

What subjects do you currently enjoy, and which ones do you dislike? What area(s) of engineering are you interested in working in?
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Original post by Smack
A lot of those job adverts are likely for experienced engineers. Getting your foot in the door is easier with an MEng as many companies only accept or strongly prefer it, although it's certainly true that once you're in, your background doesn't matter as much, and both BEng and MEng are "degree qualified".

I have heard from people who did the BEng that they regret not doing the MEng, although I think the key benefit of the MEng is that it ticks the correct boxes that need to be ticked for chartership, hence why many of the big employers prefer it.

What subjects do you currently enjoy, and which ones do you dislike? What area(s) of engineering are you interested in working in?


I had a look just now at graduate entry level jobs on LinkedIn and Gradcracker scrolled through the majority of the pages and they still say "must be degree qualified". I checked a few big name employers too and this was the case too :/

I dislike pretty much most of the course if I'm totally honest but my best grades were in fluid dynamics, engineering mathematics, systems engineering and a few electrical engineering modules (lol). I don't really "enjoy" CAD too (omg this sounds so negative hahaha)

Most of the engineering careers don't appeal to me much too....used to want to be a design engineer till i found out ill most likely sit at a cubicle looking at excel sheets all day for 8 hours (i would jump of a bridge if i did that for the rest of my life ffs :rofl: )

I do have little interest in the automotive and energy sectors though. I'm open to changing careers too and doing other things too! Still trying to figure out what i want to do as a career :frown:
Original post by a10
I am actually so torn on either leaving with an MEng or graduating with a BEng instead. I am not going to lie I am sick of this course however I don't actually regret studying engineering as I'm somewhat good at it surprisingly.


When I look at a variery of engineering job adverts 95% of them just say "must be degree qualified in engineering" and don't actually care whether you have an MEng or not. This is making me constantly question the value of the MEng and lets not forget the fact that 90% of the theoretical maths and physics content you learn in the degree is not actually used in the majority of real life engineering jobs infact i would even say 98% of jobs don't make much use of the content you learned.

I'm on the MEng currently and part of me wants to go with the BEng instead but the other part is just scared i may regret this choice in future? :frown:


Although when i look at it from a non bias standpoint the BEng has more pros than cons than the MEng in terms of having less debt, earn more + gain real job experience while everyone is still at uni thus I progress quicker.

Thoughts on this welcome!

@Smack @jneill @Like_A_G6


Finished my BEng! However I do want to do a masters, either MSc or MEng purely so that I can get chartered. From what has been drilled into us at uni, without a chartership you hit a pay wall and can't get the higher up managerial jobs because you don't have the qualifications. How accurate this I don't know but I'd much rather be safe than sorry. I wouldn't say you'd earn more with purely a BEng, you'd make up the lost year of the MEng in the long run I think. That being said, I totally get you, I hated the whole uni process although I'm still pretty certain I want an engineering related job. Have you done or applied for any internships? Maybe the company could give you better advice if so!
Original post by a10
Thoughts on this welcome!

@Smack @jneill @Like_A_G6


Thanks for the tag but I'll defer to actual engineering grads on this one :smile:

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