North Korea detonates third nuclear device

Do you know what happened during the last Korean war ?

Whilst i deplore the use of these weapons and their development i have little fear regarding North Korea. When you look objectively North Korea is no different to the chav who takes his top off and bashes his chest in a weak display of strength.

North Korea quite simply has no strategic advantage, if it were to attack the USA or its allies then one of 2 things happen..

1) In order to protect its economic ties, China may simply wipe out North Korea and absorb it as a Chinese state

2) You would suddenly find that Japan isn't as weak and pacifist as people think, when you look at their budget, navy and army in combination with missiles you see that actually they a sleeping wolf.

Secondly, Japan isn't weak at the moment. The Japanese Defence Force, especially their Navy is the second largest in the area after the US 7th Fleet and their equipment is top notch. It's a constitutional issue with Japan taking action. China will never allow them to, especially as China and Japan are in a stand off over a terratorial dispute.

I'd agree with that to a certain extent. The country may not have a strategic advantage but I don't think the current regime has the country at the centre of it's policy. The regime will do what benefits the regime. i.e. what the leader wants.

There was no strategic advnatge at the end of World War 2, but Hitler kept carrying on as it benefited him, not Germany. Same for Japan.

If Korea gets a viable Nuke and delivery system, there may not be anything China can do. It's a case of the mouse that roared.

Secondly, Japan isn't weak at the moment. The Japanese Defence Force, especially their Navy is the second largest in the area after the US 7th Fleet and their equipment is top notch. It's a constitutional issue with Japan taking action. China will never allow them to, especially as China and Japan are in a stand off over a terratorial dispute.

Also a country like north korea cannot be invaded like iraq... For one north korea has no oil also the north korean army is no joke.

The North Korean army is a shambles, no oil for it's own tanks and aircraft, not enough food, i'd bet not enough ammunition and not to mention even if it could run itself all of it's equipment is completely obsolete. The only reason they haven't been dealt with in the appropriate manner is China.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21421841

They don't seem to care less about current rules, it's worrying..

I wish weapons of mass destruction were banned globally.

What do you think?

Whilst i deplore the use of these weapons and their development i have little fear regarding North Korea. When you look objectively North Korea is no different to the chav who takes his top off and bashes his chest in a weak display of strength.

North Korea quite simply has no strategic advantage, if it were to attack the USA or its allies then one of 2 things happen..

1) In order to protect its economic ties, China may simply wipe out North Korea and absorb it as a Chinese state

2) You would suddenly find that Japan isn't as weak and pacifist as people think, when you look at their budget, navy and army in combination with missiles you see that actually they a sleeping wolf.

Yep, Japan doesn't have many friends in that region, Disputes with Russia and China etc..


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I am soon going to be flying in and out of Seoul, and also between Beijing and Tokyo. That part of the world is a total quagmire these days. I fear for my safety.

And nuclear weapons are in this day and age are a paper tiger - anyone launches a nuke gets themselves and thier entire country nuked right back. No one is going to do that.

The fact that the active strength is 1.4million with a further 8.2million in reserve might also have something to do with it...

Numbers are completely irrelevant if you can't equip and supply them properly and like I said they're equipment is completely outdated, they still use Migs from as far back as the 50s and even there most modern aircraft is from the early 80s. Their main battle tank and most numerous is a T-55 from 1945! They could cause horrific casualties with biological/chemical weapons with the element of surprise but their military would crumble. Their numbers are irrelevant, the only thin they've got going for them is their fanaticism.

those rules were written by others with nuclear weapons so meh.

And nuclear weapons are in this day and age are a paper tiger - anyone launches a nuke gets themselves and thier entire country nuked right back. No one is going to do that.

Also seeing as the US remains the only country to use nuclear arsenals in a conflict against civilians to boot not to mention thier "we are America we are right" attitude means i wouldnt trust them.



This is very true. Plus Japan want to build mechs

Quantity is a quality all of it's own.

Yes, the high tech of 'the west' would beat anything they have in the first few days, but sooner or later you've got to put feet on the ground. The US, for one, only really feels comfortable in ground offensives when they build up a 3:1 advantage. That's simply impossible without conscription to WW2 levels.

By all means explore options with regard to Naughty Korea, but let's be realistic.

The High tech of the west hasn't got anything that is nearly as reliable for taking out an ICBM. Why do you think the yanks are working on it now? They're planning for in th enext 10 to 15 years when Iran do go fully nuclear capable

In flight, sure. But on the ground? The locations will be fixed and known, it will be obvious when activity ramps up and they will be susceptible to attack from the air with 'bunker-busting' munitions that can penetrate through extreme depths of concrete and hit with an accuracy measured in centimetres.

With a Guarantee you get them all and know where they are? And then you need to keep hitting them to make sure they never come back.

How many Gaurdian readers will support that?

Except North Korea isn't peaceful; it started the Korean war, has wanted to overrun South Korea for over half a century, and is one of the least free countries to have ever existed. It's the closest thing to airstrip one - except it's too poor to afford telescreens.



And Kim Jung Un has no right go around dictating how his citizens lives are run. If you were a North Korean (which isn't in South East Asia) you couldn't tell any foreigner anything without fear of being executed as a collaborator or a traitor to the revolution. And South Korea's Chamberlain-esque sunshine policy will only prolong the existence of North Korea's dictatorship.