Maria Hutchings-Son could not get education to become surgeon from state school
Maria Hutchings, the Tory candidate for Eastleigh, has apparently said it would be impossible for her 'very gifted' son to get the right sort of education for him to become a cardio-respiratory surgeon in the state system.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/02/16/maria-hutchings-state-schools_n_2700510.html
What do people think of this?
Personally I'd say fair enough sending her child to private school, her child and her money. However, it seems odd to say he could never become a surgeon with a state education, it just seems a strange and illogical addition given there are plenty of very gifted, state educated students at medical schools up and down the country.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/02/16/maria-hutchings-state-schools_n_2700510.html
What do people think of this?
Personally I'd say fair enough sending her child to private school, her child and her money. However, it seems odd to say he could never become a surgeon with a state education, it just seems a strange and illogical addition given there are plenty of very gifted, state educated students at medical schools up and down the country.
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Original post by roh
Maria Hutchings, the Tory candidate for Eastleigh, has apparently said it would be impossible for her 'very gifted' son to get the right sort of education for him to become a cardio-respiratory surgeon in the state system.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/02/16/maria-hutchings-state-schools_n_2700510.html
What do people think of this?
Personally I'd say fair enough sending her child to private school, her child and her money. However, it seems odd to say he could never become a surgeon with a state education, it just seems a strange and illogical addition given there are plenty of very gifted, state educated students at medical schools up and down the country.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/02/16/maria-hutchings-state-schools_n_2700510.html
What do people think of this?
Personally I'd say fair enough sending her child to private school, her child and her money. However, it seems odd to say he could never become a surgeon with a state education, it just seems a strange and illogical addition given there are plenty of very gifted, state educated students at medical schools up and down the country.
The last thing the Tories needed was a good candidate, a good campaign and a whipping from UKIP.
The Daily Mail describes her as the Tories' Sarah Palin.
I suspect that is exactly what Conservative Central Office wanted; a candidate that can carry the blame when a Lib Dem is re-elected.
She is what you really, really need when your principal opponent is a man with only one daughter who attended a local state school and is currently reading medicine at Imperial.
(edited 11 years ago)
Original post by roh
Maria Hutchings, the Tory candidate for Eastleigh, has apparently said it would be impossible for her 'very gifted' son to get the right sort of education for him to become a cardio-respiratory surgeon in the state system.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/02/16/maria-hutchings-state-schools_n_2700510.html
What do people think of this?
Personally I'd say fair enough sending her child to private school, her child and her money. However, it seems odd to say he could never become a surgeon with a state education, it just seems a strange and illogical addition given there are plenty of very gifted, state educated students at medical schools up and down the country.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/02/16/maria-hutchings-state-schools_n_2700510.html
What do people think of this?
Personally I'd say fair enough sending her child to private school, her child and her money. However, it seems odd to say he could never become a surgeon with a state education, it just seems a strange and illogical addition given there are plenty of very gifted, state educated students at medical schools up and down the country.
Maybe she's referring to her son in particular, that at that age (14-18) he needed the extra attention/encouragement and smaller class sizes etc. found in a private school versus a state school to get the grades required.
Still think it's a weird thing to say, though. As you say in your last paragraph, plenty of state schoolers become excellent doctors. I don't think that last part strengthens her case at all.
Original post by nulli tertius
The last thing the Tories needed was a good candidate, a good campaign and a whipping from UKIP.
The Daily Mail describes her as the Tories' Sarah Palin.
I suspect that is exactly what Conservative Central Office wanted; a candidate that can carry the blame when a Lib Dem is re-elected.
She is what you really, really need when your principal opponent is a man with only one daughter who attended a local state school and is currently reading medicine at Imperial.
The Daily Mail describes her as the Tories' Sarah Palin.
I suspect that is exactly what Conservative Central Office wanted; a candidate that can carry the blame when a Lib Dem is re-elected.
She is what you really, really need when your principal opponent is a man with only one daughter who attended a local state school and is currently reading medicine at Imperial.
Yeah, I just saw the thing about the Lib Dem's daughter going to Imperial. I mean as an MP you can still send your child private (maybe not so much as PM) and simply point out it's your child, your choice but why follow it with a statement that just makes you sound like an idiot (and indeed seriously pushy parent for that matter, as if you know exactly what you want to specialise in age 25 when you're 12!!)
It sounds like UKIP territory to be fair, getting good gains in the latest poll, though possibly typifies their problem of potentially being the third party everywhere and being left with nothing FPTP. Could do them good in the run up the EU elections though.
Original post by Xiomara
Maybe she's referring to her son in particular, that at that age (14-18) he needed the extra attention/encouragement and smaller class sizes etc. found in a private school versus a state school to get the grades required.
Still think it's a weird thing to say, though. As you say in your last paragraph, plenty of state schoolers become excellent doctors. I don't think that last part strengthens her case at all.
Still think it's a weird thing to say, though. As you say in your last paragraph, plenty of state schoolers become excellent doctors. I don't think that last part strengthens her case at all.
If he was a candidate who might be borderline otherwise might make more sense, but he's apparently 'very gifted'!
She needed to say 'I feel it's the best education for my son', don't add that in spite of being 'very gifted' he needs it to become a surgeon! Where are her political instincts?!
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maybe he is trying to say her son is not gifted enough and therefore cannot get into medical school without extra help
I know someone who went to a state school and sixth form. They're now studying medicine at UEA.
Thats a lame excuse. If you put the effort in and even get a private tutor for the evenings if you must, you can get As at even the worst of state schools.
Thats a lame excuse. If you put the effort in and even get a private tutor for the evenings if you must, you can get As at even the worst of state schools.
State educated doctor here: what a load of rubbish!
The Tory party has a serious case of foot in mouth disease. We had the welsh guy getting into trouble over remarks made about gay parents, this woman who blundered into trouble and this morning IDS seemed to have missed the point completely over the Workfair case which concluded last week.
I think that all this woman meant to say was that she sees great potential in her child and that she wants him to be educated in an environment which will make the most of it. It just seems that she did not approach the topic with the requisite level of diplomacy. Just to add to what someone else picked up on... the fact that the kid has, at a young age, identified the exact specialism he wishes to practice is quite something!
I think that all this woman meant to say was that she sees great potential in her child and that she wants him to be educated in an environment which will make the most of it. It just seems that she did not approach the topic with the requisite level of diplomacy. Just to add to what someone else picked up on... the fact that the kid has, at a young age, identified the exact specialism he wishes to practice is quite something!
She is very smart. Genius even. As we can see no doctor has ever been educated in a public school and the few doctors that have are all rubbish. (i am obviously joking!).
The best piece of advice that I have even been given is the fact that going to a private school or getting into oxbridge etc wont necessarily make you a better doctor/person. It is what you make out of this experience, how much you are willing to study and how much you want to be the best you can be. If this wasnt the case then all the "smart" people would be privately educated and all the "stupid" ones would be publicly educated. Do you see a big gap between the education received from private and public schools? I personally dont. Ok, fair enough that a few public schools can improve but the same goes to the majority of the private schools around the world. Just because you pay hundreds of thousands to get educated at schools like that you will not become a better doctor or have more chances of succeeding in the future.
Btw, I dont leave in the UK but i came across this article and i immediately lost all respect towards this woman. I want to become a doctor and have applied to med schools in the UK and i have studied at a private school. Believe me, right now if I could turn back in time I would go to a public school and save my family a ****load of money. The opportunities are the same and personally i dont think it would make much of a difference in my application form if i said i was publicly educated. The only advantage I have gained is the fact that I speak better English than the majority of the publicly educated kids - but again, it is not a rule of thumb!
The best piece of advice that I have even been given is the fact that going to a private school or getting into oxbridge etc wont necessarily make you a better doctor/person. It is what you make out of this experience, how much you are willing to study and how much you want to be the best you can be. If this wasnt the case then all the "smart" people would be privately educated and all the "stupid" ones would be publicly educated. Do you see a big gap between the education received from private and public schools? I personally dont. Ok, fair enough that a few public schools can improve but the same goes to the majority of the private schools around the world. Just because you pay hundreds of thousands to get educated at schools like that you will not become a better doctor or have more chances of succeeding in the future.
Btw, I dont leave in the UK but i came across this article and i immediately lost all respect towards this woman. I want to become a doctor and have applied to med schools in the UK and i have studied at a private school. Believe me, right now if I could turn back in time I would go to a public school and save my family a ****load of money. The opportunities are the same and personally i dont think it would make much of a difference in my application form if i said i was publicly educated. The only advantage I have gained is the fact that I speak better English than the majority of the publicly educated kids - but again, it is not a rule of thumb!
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Original post by Carpediemxx
State educated doctor here: what a load of rubbish!
State educated man with med school offer here- she is chatting nonsense!
If her son was a hard worker, it wouldn't matter where he attended school.
Original post by navarre
State educated man with med school offer here- she is chatting nonsense!
If her son was a hard worker, it wouldn't matter where he attended school.
If her son was a hard worker, it wouldn't matter where he attended school.
Equally if her son wasn't very clever, independant school would make no difference. My brother still fails everything...
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It would just be harder in a state school because you are not spoon fed! I bet more unis would go for a state educated student over a private educated student if they had the same grades because it shows that you are pushing yourself rather than other people!
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