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Which further maths modules require the least background knowledge?

Ok. Here is my situation. Currently in year 12, doing normal maths (C1,2, S1). I want to do further maths by myself, at least upto AS. I started looking at Fp1, but that requires knowledge from C3, which I have not covered yet.

My question is, which of the other further maths modules require the least amount of knowledge from outside of C1/C2/S1?

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Reply 1

L'Evil Fish

FP1 doesn't require C3?

But if you learn differentiation and integration from C3 only then you can tackle the applied modules as well... S2/M2.

But you'd need M1 to do M2 which I'm guessing you'll do next,year..

Reply 2

Doglamlico

Original post by Dalilsp

D1 and D2 require knowing how to count, and that's literally it :colondollar:

M1 doesn't have any prerequisites other than being comfortable with C1-level algebra.

FP1 shouldn't require C3 - our students learn it alongside C2.

Reply 3

L'Evil Fish

Original post by The Polymath

D1 and D2 require knowing how to count, and that's literally it :colondollar:

M1 doesn't have any prerequisites other than being comfortable with C1-level algebra.

FP1 shouldn't require C3 - our students learn it alongside C2.

Your students? :rofl:

Reply 4

Dalilsp

So to sum up, D1 requires little to no knowledge, M1 requires C1 algebra, Fp1 is max C1/2... Hmmm someone lied to me :|

Which would be the best to start off with now? In your opinions?

Reply 5

Robbie242

FP1 does not require c3 knowledge, stuff like iteration comes up in C3, it does not mean that newton raphson is hard, its just plugging numbers into formulas other then that I barely see any C3 correlations between the two, FP1 is a fairly unique module which introduces you to somewhat sounding complicated maths, but stuff like matrices/proof by induction becomes easy with practice.

Reply 6

Doglamlico

Original post by L'Evil Fish

Your students? :rofl:

I mean students at my school :tongue:

(although I have taught C1 lunch classes, so technically.. :colone:

)

Reply 7

Robbie242

Original post by Dalilsp

So to sum up, D1 requires little to no knowledge, M1 requires C1 algebra, Fp1 is max C1/2... Hmmm someone lied to me :|

Which would be the best to start off with now? In your opinions?

Are you trying to complete the AS this year? Because its arguable to say that if you started now 1-2modules would be wise, not all 3. I started self-teaching in mid November, done with fp1 and nearly finished with m1, I don't think cramming will get you the best grade honestly.

Reply 8

L'Evil Fish

Original post by Dalilsp

So to sum up, D1 requires little to no knowledge, M1 requires C1 algebra, Fp1 is max C1/2... Hmmm someone lied to me :|

Which would be the best to start off with now? In your opinions?

M1
FP1
D1 (I have no idea)

Original post by The Polymath

I mean students at my school :tongue:

(although I have taught C1 lunch classes, so technically.. :colone:

)

thought so :wink:

I should do that next year :teeth:

Reply 9

Dalilsp

I have no problem with doing the AS FM exams externally next January or so. I just would like the qualification as the courses I am thinking of doing in University may require FM. Which I did not take :frown:

Stupid biology =p

Reply 10

Indeterminate

Original post by Dalilsp

So to sum up, D1 requires little to no knowledge, M1 requires C1 algebra, Fp1 is max C1/2... Hmmm someone lied to me :|

Which would be the best to start off with now? In your opinions?

M1
M2
FP1.

You should know that I'm completely biased towards mechanics :smile:

Fp1
m1
d1
s2

Depends on your exam board. If you are on MEI then D1 and NM would require the least knowledge. D1 across all boards requires the least background knowledge

Reply 13

Dalilsp

Edexcel is the exam board.. I think I may try M1 first, and then choose between M2 and FP1. I will be finishing C2 within the next week or so (working on this stuff earlier than class) and so I may go onto C3. Hopefully if all goes well I will be able to finish M1, M2/FP1, C3, C4 before September 2013. Is this at all possible? Summer holidays are long and boring, so this is a way of getting it less boring. (I prefer maths over chemistry and biology and music)

Reply 14

MathMan

I did m1,m2 and fp1. You hardly need to know any c3 to tackle m2 you just need to know what e^ax, differentiates and integrates to. Differentiation and integration of sin(x) and cos(x) and that 1/ax+b integrates to (1/a)ln(ax+b). I did m2 alongside m1,fp1,c1,c2 and s1. In my opinion its easier than m1.

Reply 15

Technetium

Original post by Dalilsp

Depends on how much work you are willing to put in, but it is possible. I'd advise you to do C3 and C4 first, and then FP1 will be a breeze! :smile:

Reply 16

feghdan

I did further maths last year , and u don't need any background knowledge in particular to study FP1 , whereas you need to do M1 and S1 before doing M2 and S2 and C1-C4 to do FP2 and .

safe

Reply 17