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Original post by lightburns
What's awful?


The bunnies and mice. Surely that's obvious. :tongue:
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I don't really have a question but I'd just like to say thank you for creating this thread :smile: I've never met anyone who identifies as a trans man or trans woman, but reading all this has been fascinating :biggrin: Very interesting and I know someone has already said this but nothing has disturbed me so far :smile:


Hope your family come around (but it's their loss if they don't) and good luck with finding a partner - ooh! a quick question! How do you tell people who you are dating/thinking of being intimate with that you have female genitalia? And have you had people reject you immediately when they find out?


But yeah. Thank you, it's a great thread :biggrin:
This is not exactly related to being trans because I like being female and am cisgender. But I hate my chest and people say I have body dsyphoria about it. Did you get a reduction or complete removal?

I'm a tomboy like 60% of the time and like wearing stripy topsand stuff but not with a big chest..it's like nonono

I sound silly..but are there any ways I can make my chest look smaller

I do have a question for you though..do you feel comfortable around people who are hostile or do you just ignore them?

Bravo for being proud of yourself..I grew up with an FTM trans (Although we're not close) and it must have been scary at times

EDIT: I meant FTM. I get confused:confused:
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Reply 43
Original post by SophiaKeuning
The bunnies and mice. Surely that's obvious. :tongue:


:tongue: It's the way the world works. A great many medical procedures and a great amount of scientific knowledge come from animal tests. It's just not exactly nice to picture some dogs being made sick and put down whilst you're picking up flu medicine

Original post by AvadaKedavra
I don't really have a question but I'd just like to say thank you for creating this thread :smile: I've never met anyone who identifies as a trans man or trans woman, but reading all this has been fascinating :biggrin: Very interesting and I know someone has already said this but nothing has disturbed me so far :smile:

Hope your family come around (but it's their loss if they don't)

My Dad's side haven't always understood, but always stood by me.
My Mum's side has recently come around - took them half a decade. It took being told I'm a selfish and immature girl, it took having holidays and pocket money revoked, it took being told that everyone has a choice, it took being told at 16 from my mother that a constant wish was that she didn't have to be related to me any more, it took being kicked out of home.

They have accepted me now, but I have been hurt incredibly by their doings. I don't let them in on my difficulties and bitterness, but I don't see how I can see them the same any more. I was a child. When I needed my mother most, she abandoned me. They joined forces together against me. They very much set up that it was Me vs. Them - I feel like the disconnected twice removed cousin, not a direct descendant. Despite being their only direct descendant.

and good luck with finding a partner - ooh! a quick question! How do you tell people who you are dating/thinking of being intimate with that you have female genitalia? And have you had people reject you immediately when they find out?

I go to a fetish/sex club, and have a profile on the website there. It's the only time in life that I publicise this, but on there it's the first thing I say. If anyone isn't cool with it, they can avoid me easily.

To avoid difficulties (it would damage me if someone told me that they wouldn't because of my bits, especially if they worded it tactlessly), I always wait for others to suggest sex. I know from general conversation that some people would never do things with female bits, but this has only been directed to me once (and that was because the guy was an absolute bottom, nothing about my genitals being female). I make it as obvious as possible that I would be interested were they to ask, but don't ask myself.

If I'm not sure that someone's seen it, I say "just in case you didn't know, I'm trans, I have a vagina". Never had a bad reaction from that. I don't need to go into more detail to defend my status as male, because it's a male-only club. That makes things a lot easier for me.

But yeah. Thank you, it's a great thread :biggrin:

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Reply 44
Original post by und3niable_
This is not exactly related to being trans because I like being female and am cisgender. But I hate my chest and people say I have body dsyphoria about it. Did you get a reduction or complete removal?

Complete removal. It's very rare to hear about trans men getting breast reductions - I think it might be applicable in extreme cases when it's worth the fun of the first surgery, and they can get it a lot earlier than the full whammy (which they can then do when they have the funds/NHS has okayed it). Also, the complete thing does need to be with someone who specialises in that surgery, not just breast removals (for things like cancer patients) - the aim is to make a male chest, not just a breastless one.

Anyway, I can show you. Note that I was originally very flat, but I've had some muscle growth there. Until I can get rid of the belly flab, it may be mistaken for slight moobness; this would also stop me widening at the hips as much.

Picture0042.jpgPicture0043.jpg

I'm a tomboy like 60% of the time and like wearing stripy topsand stuff but not with a big chest..it's like nonono

I sound silly..but are there any ways I can make my chest look smaller

Not a silly question at all. I guess you might end up getting a reduction in the long-term?

I got my binders from T-Kingdom, but this uses Asian norms - smaller bodies, and smaller breasts. I had to get medium, and at the time I was as thin as a stick, with breasts that were A's on a large day. However successful they were for me, I have seen pictures of large-breasted trans men showing that they don't really do the trick. On the other hand, you're not wanting to be as flat as a table - theirs might be better for you, as it won't be so aggressive.

The other popular one is Underworks, which is from USA, so more suited to Western body norms.

These aren't the cheapest things in the world, I grant you. A cheaper method people use are bandages - not a good idea. These are designed to tighten, and greatly increase all the risks of binding (pneumonia, broken ribs, etc.).

If you see a free binder giveaway place, please don't take one. They are all short of binders, and FtMs need them, when tomboys and cosplayers keep taking them!

Finally... Tight binding over a long time will damage tissue and give you a case of le saggy breasts. This obviously isn't a problem for trans men who are intending to get them removed anyway, but for you it will be, so make sure to not overdo it. Also, don't bind when asleep.

I do have a question for you though..do you feel comfortable around people who are hostile or do you just ignore them?

Bravo for being proud of yourself..I grew up with an FTM trans (Although we're not close) and it must have been scary at times

EDIT: I meant FTM. I get confused:confused:


I haven't had people (other than family) be hostile to my face. Were someone to be, I would ignore them expecting them to shut up. If they didn't shut up, then I would stand my ground hard.

I did once have someone be a knob to me on facebook publicly, many years ago. He said something about me being a "chick with a dick", so I replied "I'm not a chick... And I don't have a dick... So you kind of failed there." I do my best to put people in place as swiftly as possible, with a bit of snark if I can, and that usually deals with situations.

I have become angry on the internet (on Tumblr), but this wasn't name-calling or anything like that. It was carrying on the argument with the lava beneath the surface, making it very public and obvious that I did not find the conversation acceptable. The one time I got close to blowing my top there, I left the scene until I'd cooled off. My Dad brought me up with the view that the one who blows their top and forgets all sense of reason automatically loses.
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Reply 45
Original post by lightburns
Anyway, I can show you. Note that I was originally very flat, but I've had some muscle growth there. Until I can get rid of the belly flab, it may be mistaken for slight moobness; this would also stop me widening at the hips as much.

Picture0042.jpgPicture0043.jpg

Come on, dude, that neither counts as flab nor could be mistaken for moobness. Also, erm, lookin' good. :sexface:

:p:
Reply 46
Original post by dbmag9
Come on, dude, that neither counts as flab nor could be mistaken for moobness. Also, erm, lookin' good. :sexface:

:p:


Thanks :colone: I guess I'm a bit controlling with a pinch of paranoia.

Before testosterone, I was rakey and never had to be careful about anything. Testosterone gave me an appetite, and I quickly gained some middle. I calorie controlled, but my body is a bit naff about sugar, so I collapsed and accidentally stabbed myself on a plate and got blood everywhere, which was amusing because I made the place look like someone had been murdered when a new housemate was arriving :lol:

I am s*-scared about ending up overweight and gaining moobs. It really would screw me up, big time. A large number of trans men are overweight due to appetite increasing from testosterone, because we haven't grown up learning how to control a larger appetite like cis (non-trans) men have. We suddenly end up in the deep end and have to work out how to try and tell our bodies "No. Enough cake."

Hence how I'm trying to work out nowadays, weighing myself with scales that calculate body fat percentage, putting up things on a spreadsheet with a graph... As I say, I'm s*-scared about losing control over my weight.

Edit: Just realised that this comes back to dysphoria focus. I am not too dysphoric about my genitals, but it comes with a price.
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Reply 47
Original post by lightburns
Thanks :colone: I guess I'm a bit controlling with a pinch of paranoia.

Before testosterone, I was rakey and never had to be careful about anything. Testosterone gave me an appetite, and I quickly gained some middle. I calorie controlled, but my body is a bit naff about sugar, so I collapsed and accidentally stabbed myself on a plate and got blood everywhere, which was amusing because I made the place look like someone had been murdered when a new housemate was arriving :lol:

I am s*-scared about ending up overweight and gaining moobs. It really would screw me up, big time. A large number of trans men are overweight due to appetite increasing from testosterone, because we haven't grown up learning how to control a larger appetite like cis (non-trans) men have. We suddenly end up in the deep end and have to work out how to try and tell our bodies "No. Enough cake."

Hence how I'm trying to work out nowadays, weighing myself with scales that calculate body fat percentage, putting up things on a spreadsheet with a graph... As I say, I'm s*-scared about losing control over my weight.

Edit: Just realised that this comes back to dysphoria focus. I am not too dysphoric about my genitals, but it comes with a price.

If you find out how to say no to cake, do let me know. :p:
Reply 48
Original post by dbmag9
If you find out how to say no to cake, do let me know. :p:


Saying no to it is easy, the tricky part is not eating it after. :biggrin:
How long have you been on hormones for? And has that changed your facial structure? Do you have to shave? Could you grow a beard?

Sorry... quite a few questions there. Just quite interested that's all!
Original post by lightburns
Complete removal. It's very rare to hear about trans men getting breast reductions - I think it might be applicable in extreme cases when it's worth the fun of the first surgery, and they can get it a lot earlier than the full whammy (which they can then do when they have the funds/NHS has okayed it). Also, the complete thing does need to be with someone who specialises in that surgery, not just breast removals (for things like cancer patients) - the aim is to make a male chest, not just a breastless one.

Anyway, I can show you. Note that I was originally very flat, but I've had some muscle growth there. Until I can get rid of the belly flab, it may be mistaken for slight moobness; this would also stop me widening at the hips as much.

Picture0042.jpgPicture0043.jpg


Not a silly question at all. I guess you might end up getting a reduction in the long-term?

I got my binders from T-Kingdom, but this uses Asian norms - smaller bodies, and smaller breasts. I had to get medium, and at the time I was as thin as a stick, with breasts that were A's on a large day. However successful they were for me, I have seen pictures of large-breasted trans men showing that they don't really do the trick. On the other hand, you're not wanting to be as flat as a table - theirs might be better for you, as it won't be so aggressive.

The other popular one is Underworks, which is from USA, so more suited to Western body norms.

These aren't the cheapest things in the world, I grant you. A cheaper method people use are bandages - not a good idea. These are designed to tighten, and greatly increase all the risks of binding (pneumonia, broken ribs, etc.).

If you see a free binder giveaway place, please don't take one. They are all short of binders, and FtMs need them, when tomboys and cosplayers keep taking them!

Finally... Tight binding over a long time will damage tissue and give you a case of le saggy breasts. This obviously isn't a problem for trans men who are intending to get them removed anyway, but for you it will be, so make sure to not overdo it. Also, don't bind when asleep.



I haven't had people (other than family) be hostile to my face. Were someone to be, I would ignore them expecting them to shut up. If they didn't shut up, then I would stand my ground hard.

I did once have someone be a knob to me on facebook publicly, many years ago. He said something about me being a "chick with a dick", so I replied "I'm not a chick... And I don't have a dick... So you kind of failed there." I do my best to put people in place as swiftly as possible, with a bit of snark if I can, and that usually deals with situations.

I have become angry on the internet (on Tumblr), but this wasn't name-calling or anything like that. It was carrying on the argument with the lava beneath the surface, making it very public and obvious that I did not find the conversation acceptable. The one time I got close to blowing my top there, I left the scene until I'd cooled off. My Dad brought me up with the view that the one who blows their top and forgets all sense of reason automatically loses.


oh my, that second picture *blushes* :blush::blush::blush::blush::blush::blush:
Reply 51
Original post by linkdapink
How long have you been on hormones for? And has that changed your facial structure? Do you have to shave? Could you grow a beard?

Sorry... quite a few questions there. Just quite interested that's all!


2 1/2 years. I do need to shave, but currently it's patchy. I think facial hair should be finished by the 3 years on T mark, at which point I intend to sport some. It might help stop me looking like a child. I've seen fallen_acorns little timeline, so I'll do one myself. Note that unlike her, I cannot give any pre-transition pictures.

If you know me from real life, common courtesy dictates that you do not spread or publicise my username, nor go on a creepo stalk of my past posts. Many things I say I intend only to be connected to my profile, and not traceable to the living me. Thanks.

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Original post by lightburns
2 1/2 years. I do need to shave, but currently it's patchy. I think facial hair should be finished by the 3 years on T mark, at which point I intend to sport some. It might help stop me looking like a child. I've seen fallen_acorns little timeline, so I'll do one myself. Note that unlike her, I cannot give any pre-transition pictures.

If you know me from real life, common courtesy dictates that you do not spread or publicise my username, nor go on a creepo stalk of my past posts. Many things I say I intend only to be connected to my profile, and not traceable to the living me. Thanks.

facetimeline.png


aw, you look lovely :smile: + I love that the last photo just has a snake right in the middle.. no questions asked, just.. snake.
Reply 53
Original post by fallen_acorns
aw, you look lovely :smile: + I love that the last photo just has a snake right in the middle.. no questions asked, just.. snake.


Every picture needs a snake in it. I should have photoshopped a snake into the rest...
Original post by lightburns
Complete removal. It's very rare to hear about trans men getting breast reductions - I think it might be applicable in extreme cases when it's worth the fun of the first surgery, and they can get it a lot earlier than the full whammy (which they can then do when they have the funds/NHS has okayed it). Also, the complete thing does need to be with someone who specialises in that surgery, not just breast removals (for things like cancer patients) - the aim is to make a male chest, not just a breastless one.

Anyway, I can show you. Note that I was originally very flat, but I've had some muscle growth there. Until I can get rid of the belly flab, it may be mistaken for slight moobness; this would also stop me widening at the hips as much.

Picture0042.jpgPicture0043.jpg


Not a silly question at all. I guess you might end up getting a reduction in the long-term?


These aren't the cheapest things in the world, I grant you. A cheaper method people use are bandages - not a good idea. These are designed to tighten, and greatly increase all the risks of binding (pneumonia, broken ribs, etc.).

If you see a free binder giveaway place, please don't take one. They are all short of binders, and FtMs need them, when tomboys and cosplayers keep taking them!

Finally... Tight binding over a long time will damage tissue and give you a case of le saggy breasts. This obviously isn't a problem for trans men who are intending to get them removed anyway, but for you it will be, so make sure to not overdo it. Also, don't bind when asleep.

I did once have someone be a knob to me on facebook publicly, many years ago. eople in place as swiftly a.


It looks good! (your chest. Haha, I wouldn't use a binder that regularly anyways but it just gets me down. My chest is absolutely massive. I'll prob get a reduction if it's not smaller by like 21. And yeaah, being witty helps especially, but glad people don't give you a hard time :smile:
Original post by lightburns
Every picture needs a snake in it. I should have photoshopped a snake into the rest...


Spoiler



:biggrin: :tongue:
Reply 56
Original post by lightburns
Complete removal. It's very rare to hear about trans men getting breast reductions - I think it might be applicable in extreme cases when it's worth the fun of the first surgery, and they can get it a lot earlier than the full whammy (which they can then do when they have the funds/NHS has okayed it). Also, the complete thing does need to be with someone who specialises in that surgery, not just breast removals (for things like cancer patients) - the aim is to make a male chest, not just a breastless one.

Anyway, I can show you. Note that I was originally very flat, but I've had some muscle growth there. Until I can get rid of the belly flab, it may be mistaken for slight moobness; this would also stop me widening at the hips as much.

Picture0042.jpgPicture0043.jpg


Not a silly question at all. I guess you might end up getting a reduction in the long-term?

I got my binders from T-Kingdom, but this uses Asian norms - smaller bodies, and smaller breasts. I had to get medium, and at the time I was as thin as a stick, with breasts that were A's on a large day. However successful they were for me, I have seen pictures of large-breasted trans men showing that they don't really do the trick. On the other hand, you're not wanting to be as flat as a table - theirs might be better for you, as it won't be so aggressive.

The other popular one is Underworks, which is from USA, so more suited to Western body norms.

These aren't the cheapest things in the world, I grant you. A cheaper method people use are bandages - not a good idea. These are designed to tighten, and greatly increase all the risks of binding (pneumonia, broken ribs, etc.).

If you see a free binder giveaway place, please don't take one. They are all short of binders, and FtMs need them, when tomboys and cosplayers keep taking them!

Finally... Tight binding over a long time will damage tissue and give you a case of le saggy breasts. This obviously isn't a problem for trans men who are intending to get them removed anyway, but for you it will be, so make sure to not overdo it. Also, don't bind when asleep.



I haven't had people (other than family) be hostile to my face. Were someone to be, I would ignore them expecting them to shut up. If they didn't shut up, then I would stand my ground hard.

I did once have someone be a knob to me on facebook publicly, many years ago. He said something about me being a "chick with a dick", so I replied "I'm not a chick... And I don't have a dick... So you kind of failed there." I do my best to put people in place as swiftly as possible, with a bit of snark if I can, and that usually deals with situations.

I have become angry on the internet (on Tumblr), but this wasn't name-calling or anything like that. It was carrying on the argument with the lava beneath the surface, making it very public and obvious that I did not find the conversation acceptable. The one time I got close to blowing my top there, I left the scene until I'd cooled off. My Dad brought me up with the view that the one who blows their top and forgets all sense of reason automatically loses.


so, so jealous of your chest mate :yy:

I went for my 2nd appt at the GIC last month and was told I was far too mentally unstable to proceed with anything yet (severe clinical depression even with meds and some sort of therapy). I have stupid amounts of guilt for keeping my family in the dark currently (I'm terrified of telling them). Unfortunately it's easy to go without telling them because I'm away for univ.
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Reply 57
Original post by fallen_acorns

Spoiler



:biggrin: :tongue:


This is now my favourite post in the world. I wish we were allowed to rep users multiple times, because then you would have ALL the rep.

Original post by Cool Cat
so, so jealous of your chest mate :yy:

I went for my 2nd appt at the GIC last month and was told I was far too mentally unstable to proceed with anything yet (severe clinical depression even with meds and some sort of therapy). I have stupid amounts of guilt for keeping my family in the dark currently (I'm terrified of telling them). Unfortunately it's easy to go without telling them because I'm away for univ.

Thanks :biggrin:

I guess it depends on the individual - but unless your mental health issues are the kinds of things that could make you be mistaken (e.g. schizophrenic delusions), I'm not sure how proceeding with gender things would worsen your situation? Good luck with it though.

With family, you could try slipping something into the conversation to see their response. For example, you could say "I've been watching Waterloo Road, and there's currently a storyline about..." or "there's so many things at uni I didn't know about, like there's someone who...", and see how they react to the fictional trans person. I've never tried this method myself, but I've heard other people trying it on potential partners (that they don't want to come out to unless they have a chance with).
What was your name before and what did you change it to? How did you pick a new name, were there any reasons behind it?
Reply 59
Original post by amyshamblesxx
What was your name before and what did you change it to? How did you pick a new name, were there any reasons behind it?


On what my name was before, this is an unanswerable one for me. I changed it to Dylan. I told my friends that I liked the letter 'D', and they went through different names until one stuck.

I wanted my middle name to be the (male) name I used as a kid on things like Pokemon Red rather than my birth name (that particular example would be when I was 7). As I was wiping clean 18 years of life, I wanted a reminder that this was still me all along. Then I needed a second middle name because of a bad set of initials, and my Dad wanted me to take his father's name who had recently died. His side of the family have been good to me.

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