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Well it's not necessarily that going to a RG institution is going to make is say twice as easy to get a job, but it is Russell Group universities that the graduate recruiters target most, so you might get more attention.

I'm not saying it's the way it should be, far from it.

It would be useful if the employment "exit survey" completed 6 months after graduation was conducted more than 6 months after graduation and also included most useful questions than plainly whether or not you have a job. I'd like to see job satisfaction, relevant area, maybe even salary included.

At the moment, we have no real data apart from odd "league tables" like these:

Universities Targeted by the Largest Number of Top Employers in 2012-13
1. Warwick
2. Nottingham
3. Manchester
4. Cambridge
5. Bristol
6. Durham
7. Oxford
8. Birmingham
9. Bath
10. Leeds
11. Sheffield
12. Imperial College London
13. Loughborough
14. Edinburgh
15. London School of Economics
16. University College London
17. Southampton
18. Newcastle
19. Strathclyde
20. Exeter
Reply 41
Original post by DarkWhite
Well it's not necessarily that going to a RG institution is going to make is say twice as easy to get a job, but it is Russell Group universities that the graduate recruiters target most, so you might get more attention.

I'm not saying it's the way it should be, far from it.

It would be useful if the employment "exit survey" completed 6 months after graduation was conducted more than 6 months after graduation and also included most useful questions than plainly whether or not you have a job. I'd like to see job satisfaction, relevant area, maybe even salary included.

At the moment, we have no real data apart from odd "league tables" like these:

Universities Targeted by the Largest Number of Top Employers in 2012-13
1. Warwick
2. Nottingham
3. Manchester
4. Cambridge
5. Bristol
6. Durham
7. Oxford
8. Birmingham
9. Bath
10. Leeds
11. Sheffield
12. Imperial College London
13. Loughborough
14. Edinburgh
15. London School of Economics
16. University College London
17. Southampton
18. Newcastle
19. Strathclyde
20. Exeter


Which survey is this from ?
Reply 43


Oh that one.

I think the so called careers are undifferentiated, so being the Solihul branch manager is treated the same as head of derivatives at Barclays capital.

This and the fact that it highlights recruitment at ' Manchester, Leeds ' and a few other large relatively low quality universities without mentioning ICL, UCL, LSE, KCL makes me think this is more quality over quantity - manager at Iceland kind of survey.

No very misleading to me.
Reply 44
Original post by Zenomorph
Oh that one.

I think the so called careers are undifferentiated, so being the Solihul branch manager is treated the same as head of derivatives at Barclays capital.

This and the fact that it highlights recruitment at ' Manchester, Leeds ' and a few other large relatively low quality universities without mentioning ICL, UCL, LSE, KCL makes me think this is more quality over quantity - manager at Iceland kind of survey.

No very misleading to me.


It's based on The Times Top 100 Employers, not just any random graduate career so it's pretty representative of a very good range of graduate careers. Yes there will be difference in being "Head of Derivatives at Barclays Capital" to being a British Army Officer, but who is to say which one is less of a graduate "high quality" career?

Also, relatively speaking Manchester and Leads may be 'low quality universities' compared to LSE, UCL and KCL with regards to IB careers, but certainly not in other areas (especially considering LSE offers only a small number of degrees) - for example, the sciences.
Reply 45
Original post by Smuke
It's based on The Times Top 100 Employers, not just any random graduate career so it's pretty representative of a very good range of graduate careers. Yes there will be difference in being "Head of Derivatives at Barclays Capital" to being a British Army Officer, but who is to say which one is less of a graduate "high quality" career?

Also, relatively speaking Manchester and Leads may be 'low quality universities' compared to LSE, UCL and KCL with regards to IB careers, but certainly not in other areas (especially considering LSE offers only a small number of degrees) - for example, the sciences.



So what? the fact is that nobody is exactly sure what roles these surveys refers to.

is a very big difference between being an Iceland manager in Halifax vs. a FX trader for Barclays.

And this is backed up by fact that anyone on this board will tell you that the Leeds etc of the world are not target unis for the banks which means that the kind of executive jobs they specialise in are not the top tier kind.

this survey has been around for ages and already been debunked for the very reasons I have enunciated. Old news being recycled.

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