The "North Korea Watch 2013" Update Thread

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The great leader will conquer not only America but the entire world.

After he gets back from getting 1000 holes in one on a 10 round golf course.

Such a talented man.

Reply 81

Narutopolaris

Original post by Drewski

Awful.

But at the same time brilliant. Kudos.

The difference is in taking a voyeuristic pleasure in it.

Great men in history have found a pleasure in war...an animalistic drive that connects with our most basic need for survival. United in fear, we learn the best and worst of ourselves in war...War is human nature; War is glorious. War cuts away at the dead flesh of society...

Reply 82

Foghorn Leghorn

Seems like the chinese are none to happy with "Fatty Kim"/"fatty the third".

http://news.yahoo.com/chinas-anger-north-korea-overcomes-worry-over-u-210234713.html

Reply 83

Unkempt_One

Although they seem to be madly gnashing their teeth at a superior enemy, they must have realised their provocations aren't getting them any more concessions now. I wonder if they can get one of their miniaturised nuclear warheads into one of the invasion tunnels under Soeul . . .

Reply 84

Drewski

Original post by Narutopolaris

Some men have. Very few 'great' men have.

And those that do; lose.

War does many a thing for a country and a people. But never let it be said it is a good thing without acknowledging the terrible pain and suffering it brings.

This said by a former member of the Armed Forces.

Reply 85

tommyjazzhands

Original post by Narutopolaris

What absolute *******s. You're spouting conservative doctrine. I love people and believe we can co-exist for the good of nature. Your life, your choice.

Reply 86

Unkempt_One

Original post by Narutopolaris

If this is really what you think, then go and read a book on military history. Don't involve others in your war fetish.

Reply 87

Shabalala

Original post by Narutopolaris

Does anyone else feel a strange form of euphoria whilst this is all happening? I mean, imagine if War would break out! It would be in our lifetime, without the UK taking part; we could watch nations annihilate themselves for the first time in our history! :biggrin:

Im so pumped up for war :biggrin:

oh yeah a nuclear war seems like great fun I can't wait for it all to kick off and millions of innocent people die :dance:

Reply 88

321zero

NK have nothing to gain from antagonising the yanks. I can't see them using WMD, the repercussions are unthinkable. I just think Kim mk iii is flexing his totalitarian biceps for domestic PR.

Reply 89

Narutopolaris

Original post by Drewski

Thats true and a fair point...but I think big wars tend to do more good in the long term than suffering in the short term

Reply 90

Narutopolaris

Original post by Unkempt_One

If this is really what you think, then go and read a book on military history. Don't involve others in your war fetish.

Hang on.... If liberal hippies can advocate "love", then I have a right to advocate the benefits of war; its not a fetish (as you say), its a theory made from reason and logic and history

Reply 91

Narutopolaris

Original post by tommyjazzhands

What absolute *******s. You're spouting conservative doctrine. I love people and believe we can co-exist for the good of nature. Your life, your choice.

The key word there is 'can'; but you see, just because we can doesnt mean we will. For example, I can, hypothetically, jump off a cliff- doesnt necessarily mean I will. Humanity can be peaceful, but history has shown that really, we cant- there have been only 99 years of "peace" compared to the 3000 or si years of humanity- War is humanity, humanity is war- you may claim to "love" people, but that type of attitude is foolish- it exposes your weakness-you do not love other people, you love their wealth, and the effect of that on our materialist, capitilist society (not a bad thing). Plus, whats wrong with conservative doctrines? Conservativism is simply retaining traditions of the past with a forward looking agenda; preventing radical change by accepting change- Conservatism is the way forward, Liberalism is antithesis

Reply 92

scrotgrot

There will not be war. There may be a few isolated incidents between the Koreas as there were most recently in 2010. The US will not come to South Korea's aid unless a major city or one of its own bases is attacked, or a ballistic (or nuclear, though that will never happen) missile is fired.

Narutopolaris, traditional international war is an outdated mechanism for exerting power in a globalised world. Conflicts are now much more likely to be the result of non-state actors, civil wars, revolutions, guerrilla tactics, ethnic tensions, that sort of thing. The nation-state has been a complete irrelevancy since the end of WW2.

On a global scale, the US and other powerful countries exercise their hegemony by having bases in places like South Korea and imposing economic sanctions through supranational organisations like NATO or the UN.

Reply 93

The Socktor

Original post by tomclarky

Or perhaps you could replace Bin Laden with what's-his-face in this:

Reply 94

tommyjazzhands

Original post by Narutopolaris

Indeed the key word is 'can'. This debate gives rise to the whole dogmatic conservative idea that we have a pre-programmed human nature which is competitive, aggressive and greedy. It's great for the state-capitalist dictatorship war machine isn't it? It's simply not true. There are numerous examples of humans actually being the very opposite of this dogmatic suggestion- an altruistic, intelligent and benevolent being.

Conservatism- a forward looking agenda? Yeah right, rapacious bloated imbeciles spouting lies and creating a world of inequality and injustice while the lower classes are forced to live in squalor. You stay brainwashed, I'm going to say a big fat **** you to war, control and dogmatic philosophy with no basis in truth or fact designed only to subjugate the people.

Why won't Iain Dickhead Smith live on £51 a week? Because he has one rule for the 'privileged' and one rule for everyone else. Do you support the royal family too? Are they a 'forward thinking' concept?

Reply 95

The Socktor

Original post by Kousar

Why are they fighting anyway? Someone care to simplify it for me :colondollar:

I think it's kind of like how it was in WW1... i.e. no apparent reason... just an excuse to have millions of people killed.

Reply 96

Unkempt_One

Original post by Narutopolaris

Hang on.... If liberal hippies can advocate "love", then I have a right to advocate the benefits of war; its not a fetish (as you say), its a theory made from reason and logic and history

"its a theory made from reason and logic"
"its a theory made from reason and logic"

Original post by Narutopolaris

Does anyone else feel a strange form of euphoria whilst this is all happening?

reason and logic

Original post by Narutopolaris

So? People die everywhere and always have- what difference will it make if Psy's cousins get roasted?

reason and logic

Original post by Narutopolaris

reason and logic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalistic_fallacy

Reply 97

therisenmitten

I'm pretty sure their missiles can't reach america.

Reply 98

CelticSymphony67

I can see a few bombs getting dropped on Seoul. I'm not sure if NK have the capability to hit Guam or the US Mainland, but I do believe they have the capability to hit Japan and South Korea, and possibly with nuclear weapons too :frown:

Reply 99

Gray Wolf

Its internal politics. The boy just came to power and the way he shows of his strength internally to his generals and more so to his public is through sabre rattling. This is done in order to strength his hold over the military and to reaffirm his place as head of state. War would result in destabilization of his reign but also his ideology which he wouldn't want.

I am saying this assuming he is not a completely indoctrinated machine bent on global spread of communism at all costs.