Why did I bother going to Uni?!?

A protracted process via a Social Work MA and then NHS work before falling into the Mental Health sector.


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Ah I see, thanks my dream legal career is to be a solicitor at Capsticks specialising in medical law, but if this doesn't materialise then I may look into NHS jobs.

Complete and utter tosh. The ignorance that some people are in regarding the value or purpose of a history degree never ceases to amaze me.

If it's so valuable, why are so many history graduates unemployed?

Because there are just so many history graduates? How many history grads are unemployed anyway?

Also, you assume that employability is the measure of 'value' that the poster is using.

I suggest that many students of every subject do not measure their degree's value this way.


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How else could it possibly valued when they're complaining about their employability? The majority of people study at degree level to increase their employability. If employers don't value their degree then it's utterly pointless (Of which, I'm not saying History is).

I don't dispute there's far too many people who attain degrees. People doing subjects like History where there's few job prospects when you get down the university rankings deserve to be unemployed just because of their lack of willingness to attain qualifications that an employer values.

How else could it possibly valued when they're complaining about their employability? The majority of people study at degree level to increase their employability. If employers don't value their degree then it's utterly pointless (Of which, I'm not saying History is).

I don't dispute there's far too many people who attain degrees. People doing subjects like History where there's few job prospects when you get down the university rankings deserve to be unemployed just because of their lack of willingness to attain qualifications that an employer values.

Lol at this epitome of TSR's medicine/IB obsession.

You're missing the point on so many levels. Firstly, there are absolutely no statistics to bear out that there are a higher proportion of unemployed history graduates than there are, say, law graduates. Secondly, you seem to think that at some point in this debate I have claimed that EVERYONE who studies history is guaranteed a good job. Obviously this is not the case with any degree (save for things like Medicine or Dentistry where numbers are capped at entry to study). And lastly, a choice to study history is fundamentally not a 'lack of willingness to attain qualifications that an employer values'. And if you were referring only to those studying at lower ranked universities, the fall in job prospects falls exactly in line with all other subjects!

Lemme guess, you're a history student?

Everyone puts their own degree in high-esteem.

Unfortunately if you've not done a STEM subject, or a subject that is in high demand - which is usually a STEM subject anyways, the job market is going to be very tough.

Booooooooooooooo!!!! (N), (N), (N)

And can you please explain for the life of me why my comment was considered an obsession? (particularly to do with medicine)

I also commented that the OP could use his degree to get into financial economics (which they could). So I hardly see any obsession.

"It's fine, you've made some bad choices in the past , but you can still do graduate entry into the careers that matter! Look, medicine AND banking!"

I apologise if it came across that way, that certainly was not the intention.

Finance and medicine were just examples of the many that could have been outlined if the original poster does not get into a profession specifically to do with history.

But please, if you believe someone, such as myself, has made a comment which may have appeared insensitive, at least ask the commentator what they meant specifically before making a response otherwise it appears emotional and not rational.

Regards,

Luke.

Is it that tough though? I mean, I know it is statistically in terms of jobs per graduate. Yet in my experience those who actually made the effort from early second year to build their cv and target a sector actually found it pretty easy.

Those who did absolutely nothing to build their profile until after uni really did struggle, and that was due to lack of preparation really.

I think of you make an effort to get ahead and do your research, it's actually not that hard.

I don't consider myself an exceptional candidate by any means, but I made the most of my opportunities and balanced then well with uni work and a social life. I had multiple offers from law firms and grad schemes by August after I graduated.


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What year did you graduate? Where from? Sure, if you and your friends did your degree at somewhere very, very good then you're going to find it easier than others, because there is a bias (rightly or wrongly) towards graduates from top universities.

I don't know what degree you've done, whether it's law, history or whatever, but if you think that all it takes to get a grad job is a good CV and some research then explain to me why everyone else who has done this hasn't fared as well as you?

Perhaps you truly are an exceptional candidate. This post is no sleight on you personally, btw, I just struggle to see how anyone can find getting a graduate job 'easy' when there are far too many students in almost every non-STEM subject, nowhere near enough jobs to cater for all the graduates and an economy that is pretty much going nowhere and has been going nowhere for five years now

If it's so valuable, why are so many history graduates unemployed?

What year did you graduate? Where from? Sure, if you and your friends did your degree at somewhere very, very good then you're going to find it easier than others, because there is a bias (rightly or wrongly) towards graduates from top universities.

I don't know what degree you've done, whether it's law, history or whatever, but if you think that all it takes to get a grad job is a good CV and some research then explain to me why everyone else who has done this hasn't fared as well as you?

Perhaps you truly are an exceptional candidate. This post is no sleight on you personally, btw, I just struggle to see how anyone can find getting a graduate job 'easy' when there are far too many students in almost every non-STEM subject, nowhere near enough jobs to cater for all the graduates and an economy that is pretty much going nowhere and has been going nowhere for five years now

Honestly, I have to agree with him. Of all the people I know at my university, a very high percentage of them have secured a graduate job, myself included. I personally found the process tiring and stressful but it is by no means as difficult to obtain a job as it is made out, all I did was get an internship in my second year then apply for grad schemes early in 3rd year - nothing major there really. Employers really don't care what your degree is unless the job is particularly numerate.

Lemme guess, you're a history student?

Everyone puts their own degree in high-esteem.

Unfortunately if you've not done a STEM subject, or a subject that is in high demand - which is usually a STEM subject anyways, the job market is going to be very tough.