Islamist views and related crime stories in the UK - how to deal with it

I've read though the threads, who's justifying this?
You think I'm immoral? Do expand.
Yeah, I didn't deny that there are some idiot "Muslims" who think it's right to go around killing disbelievers.
Here's an example of reading out of context:
http://quran.com/4/89
Reading IN context:
http://quran.com/4/90

See what I mean?

Ex-Atheists who convert to Islam are brainwashed to do so by their Atheist parents?

not really, 4:89 is not about non muslims ('kuufr') its about apostates ie muslims turning away from islam- that you can seize them and kill them. the debate has been whether you are allowed to kill them if they apostate and leave you alone (4:90)

what you are really highlighting is the problems with the quran being unclear and contradictory, which is what leads to all this varied interpretation. if no convert out of islam was supossed to be killed, then really no such verse should exisit in quran. but it does and therefroe there is alway some muslims that will read it and act on verbatem

Islam IS to blame for this incident. Muslims however are not. (Well, except those that radicalised the guy)

There are verses in the Qur'an that could be interpreted to permit the killing of non Muslims.
9:73 , 8:60

I do believe that the Qur'an is unclear (because of the linguistics in which it was originally written; even modern Arabs have trouble comprehending some of the verses); there are soooo many interpretations, many contradictory.

I do believe that the Qur'an is unclear (because of the linguistics in which it was originally written; even modern Arabs have trouble comprehending some of the verses); there are soooo many interpretations, many contradictory.

I do believe that the Qur'an is unclear (because of the linguistics in which it was originally written; even modern Arabs have trouble comprehending some of the verses); there are soooo many interpretations, many contradictory.

Some things such as the stuff about the Prophet's actions like marrying a young girl, evidence of males being worth twice that of females, unequal divorce rights, punishments for apostates and that Allah is pleased when muslims enforce this are not considered contradictory.

Psychologically it would be very hard for people instructed by their parents to follow islam as children to agree to this (assuming they are the good muslims who do not terrorism). It is also going to be very hard for them to leave islam. The same applies to people of different faiths. Mammals tend to imitate their parents to gain knowledge for survival biologically and children learn by imitating their parents.

Islam DOES have a problem- its problem is that its followers are WAY more "devoted" than other believers. This is the root cause of its problems. Yes I know every muslim isn't a terrorist but it would appear every terrorist in the world appears to be a muslim. There is a reason for this- its not pure coincidence.

The only solution to this problem is to ban Islam from the United Kingdom- simple.

How young? Unclear."being worth"? Self worth isn't all about how much money you have, you know. But anyway, back then, males were the only ones who actually needed the money, as they were the ones who were required to provide EVERYTHING for their family. For this reason, I'm not upset that I get 1/2 the amount that my brothers do. Because my husband will have to pay for my necessities, as my brothers will have to pay for their wives and children. Obviously times have changed, and so do situations.Apostates and divorce verses please? ...I'll look up on them.Of course theists are not stupid, we think for ourselves and I have had doubts as anyone would have. I actually know someone who is an atheist, was a Muslim. But what instilled faith in me again was the power of prayer, and how my family and I have overcome soooooo many physical and medical obstacles, and defeated the odds NUMEROUS TIMES. Some say it was extremely lucky, but I find that hard to believe. It's also something innate. It's not illogical or irrational to believe that there is a God when there's no evidence to suggest otherwise.

I don't know whether to laugh or be offended by that last sentence. Ban Islam? Do you mean ban the presence of Muslims in the UK? And if so, what about those of us who were born/raised here? Do you suggest on deporting us all back to our native lands?
It's comments like these that make me feel like I'm not British, even though Britain is all I know.

equally the mughals in north india couldnt convert all hindus and sikhs, so they allowed them to practice their own courts laws etc alongside msulim law (as long as they paid their taxes to the muslim kingdom of course)

Under various Mughal emperors Sikhs and Hindus were mercilessly tortured and killed for refusing to convert to Islam.

The terrorists and your arguemnt is irrelevant becuase you both have claimed terrorist attacks is due to ouccpation but as has been pointed out to you about 15 times, islamic terrorism has been committed for decades before any of the invasions, so it seems its part and parcel of islamism.

The invasion of afganistan was a direct result of 9/11 and our extension there is a direct result of 7/7. im sure bin laden knew that would happen, but again i doubt he cared, he was willing to sacrifice muslims he had never met to make a crackpot political statement.