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Reply 40
Original post by Another
Have you ever been in a family without a father? No? Ever spoken to a mother who had to seperate from her husband because he spent his money every other night on prostitutes and was damaging the life of her children? No?

Okay.


Get your facts right, we have increasing number of single mums compared to 50 year ago, because the state benefit gives out much more than they ever did.

I know lot of girls from my old school, who just got pregnant casually because they knew they would get free housing and benefits and they did not care if they were married to the father of the child or not!

If the benefit system was not so generous, women would think twice and chose more carefully and put more important of being married to the fathers child, since they need income to bring up the child.

I guess, the state has become the father.

There are people who work hard and struggle to pay £200 in rent in a small flat in london, and yet I see so many single mums in London, who get over 400 to 500 pounds of housing benefit a week and they sit at home.

I am done with you now.
Where can i sign up?

Kidding, sounds awful, it's not just pakistani's however ( why can't I shorten it to paki )
there have been english grooming gangs etc etc etc
Reply 42
Original post by ssxx
What planet are you on? have you not seen the decline in British white community values over the years?

The rise of single mum, absent fathers, increase in destructive drinking culture, increasing number of kids born outside wedlock. Allowing their children to sleep around, bring the boyfriend home and have sex in their rooms.

Increasing numbers of working class men, who lost all work ethics and rather live off the doll, compared to their grandfathers generation.

I am for conservative British values which supports strong families and standards in life.


I consider myself a traditionalist, and I don't personally celebrate promiscuity, but quite frankly, this is rubbish. Could you please actually explain the perceived link between child abuse and unwed mothers? How do working class fathers on the dole contribute to a culture of abuse? You are still blaming the culture of the victims for why they got abused, whilst you say nothing of the perpetrators themselves? Even if one indulges your argument for a minute, even if you are right, permissive culture alone would not be the cause of the abuse, merely a catalyst to make it easier; there needs to be an abuser for abuse to occur.

As for the "destructive drinking culture", there is not really an increase: a recent Office for National Statistics report suggests that the proportion of men drinking five or more days a week fell from 23% in 1998 to 16% in 2011, and in women 13% to 9% in the same years.
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Original post by ssxx
Get your facts right, we have increasing number of single mums compared to 50 year ago, because the state benefit gives out much more than they ever did.

I know lot of girls from my old school, who just got pregnant casually because they knew they would get free housing and benefits and they did not care if they were married to the father of the child or not!

If the benefit system was not so generous, women would think twice and chose more carefully and put more important of being married to the fathers child, since they need income to bring up the child.

I guess, the state has become the father.

There are people who work hard and struggle to pay £200 in rent in a small flat in london, and yet I see so many single mums in London, who get over 400 to 500 pounds of housing benefit a week and they sit at home.

I am done with you now.


I have to ask, do you personally know anyone on benefits? After reading this whole thread I have to think you are seriously ill informed about things you seem to think you know everything about.
Original post by ssxx
Asian culture? You mean Pakastani culture.

When you use the word "Asian", you are including, Chinese, Japanese, Indian, Sri lankan ect. These people do not have the same culture as Pakistani people. They even tend to clash with Pakistani culture.


Fine then Pakistani culture..doesn't change anything to my argument. If you had read those articles you wouldn't have given that reply because you would have understood the basis of the very sensible and comprehensive argument, which you clearly didn't.

Instead of correcting me why don't you answer to the points highlighted in the article? Because you cannot answer by denying the facts in those articles or because ignorance is bliss?
Ok. Ok. Number one. Check out the Rotherham child sex gang news reports and why they were allowed to continue for so long.Then check out the statistics on worldwide POLIOThen check the geographical location of the compound they found Osama in. In relation to Pakistan Military bases. (i have not seen the eveidence myself but there are reports of Osama staying there quite some time.Look at the worldwide actions against child pornography. See where they view as the worst offenders.Taharrush Gamea. Berlin new years eve 2017 (The differences in the crime map in germany in 2012 to 2017 with the advent germany welcoming immigration) What is the age of consent in Pakistan, the only religiously founded state other than Israel on earth?What is the average age of marriage?What is the child mortality rate?how many people are never registered?Don't even start blaming western parents for being tolerant and assuming that their country is not turning into Pakistan.Blame those who have be doing these actions for longer than polio has had a vaccine.
Reply 46
Original post by ssxx



All these people negging me seem to all share the same self defense mechanism.
This is why things will never change, root causes are never addressed because people get to defensive.


what the hell are you talking about ?

That's no excuse for taking advantage of people. There's no excuse to get people addicted to drugs and rape them.

You are an apologist. If the rape gangs were white Anglo-Saxons you would not defend them. It's one rule for white people, one rule for everyone else.
Reply 47
Original post by ssxx
Right, keep avoiding the real deep issues.


Single mums, lack of community, opportunists, dysfunctional families are not the problem.

you are just an idiot.
Original post by ssxx
This is the type of response that avoids the real issues being discussed.
Nice one, keep your head in the sand.


At my temple we were told that they target indians girls and telling them signs to watch out for. so they don't just target white girls. I think they just dont target islamic girls.
Original post by ssxx
They seem to many cases on the media about Pakistani grooming gangs targeting white girls. Many people have said, how it is racial motivated and they just see white girls as pieces of meat.

The truth is, it is not racially motivated it is opportunist.

It is harder for them to groom girls in their community because the girls in general do not hang out at night and drink. Parents keep close eye on Asian girls.

In the white community, they have been a increasing trend in broken families, single mums. Girls from white communities are more likely to have sex at early age, drink and there is no stigma attached to this sort of behavior. So the Pakistani grooming gangs find it easier to target these girls for sex.

The white community need to seriously look within themselves and sort out the rot of dysfunctional families if they are going to protect their children.
There is such casual attitude towards sex, where sex after marriage is no longer seen as a good thing. The media which is dominated by whites, constantly expose young girls to sex.


There is a lot of hypocrisy going on here.

All these people negging me seem to all share the same self defense mechanism.
This is why things will never change, root causes are never addressed because people get to defensive.


At my temple we were told that they target indians girls and telling them signs to watch out for. so they don't just target white girls. I think they just dont target islamic girls.
Original post by marshmellow:)
At my temple we were told that they target indians girls and telling them signs to watch out for. so they don't just target white girls. I think they just dont target islamic girls.

Hindu temple ?
Original post by CuriousGuy777
Hindu temple ?


no sikh temple
FFS this thread is 4 years, give it a rest.
Original post by marshmellow:)
no sikh temple


Oh I see.
Original post by King Leonidas
FFS this thread is 4 years, give it a rest.


4 years and still relevant. What a world.
Reply 55
You are overthinking it.

It really is as simple as it looks, however, people need to make excuses because they are ethnic minorities.
Original post by ssxx
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You honestly disgust me and I'm a Muslim (though not Asian). What we should be looking at is the perpetrators. A disproportionately large number of them come from Muslim Asian backgrounds - mostly Pakistani.

Why is it mostly Pakistanis grooming girls in this way?
What is it about their cultural mindset that encourages this behaviour? Is there something in their culture, for example, that encourages petty, exploitative, manipulative behaviour - whether towards women who are white, all women, or all people in general?

That's the line of thought we need to follow in order to find the answer on how to stop these crimes.
Original post by Pre60sMorality
Whats so special about white girls? Most of the 'victims' of Rotherham/Rochdale were just vacuous teen ****s. Mid teen girls have always hankered after 20 something guys with cars; these northern ****s got plenty of free vodka and cigarettes dont forget.


What you have said about the victims of these crimes is disgusting and unacceptable. Reported.
Original post by cosmic angel
What you have said about the victims of these crimes is disgusting and unacceptable. Reported.


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Original post by ssxx
They seem to many cases on the media about Pakistani grooming gangs targeting white girls. Many people have said, how it is racial motivated and they just see white girls as pieces of meat.

The truth is, it is not racially motivated it is opportunist.

It is harder for them to groom girls in their community because the girls in general do not hang out at night and drink. Parents keep close eye on Asian girls.

In the white community, they have been a increasing trend in broken families, single mums. Girls from white communities are more likely to have sex at early age, drink and there is no stigma attached to this sort of behavior. So the Pakistani grooming gangs find it easier to target these girls for sex.

The white community need to seriously look within themselves and sort out the rot of dysfunctional families if they are going to protect their children.
There is such casual attitude towards sex, where sex after marriage is no longer seen as a good thing. The media which is dominated by whites, constantly expose young girls to sex.


There is a lot of hypocrisy going on here.

All these people negging me seem to all share the same self defense mechanism.
This is why things will never change, root causes are never addressed because people get to defensive.


Whilst I don't disagree with you and you do bring up some valid points, I think it's important that you emphasize the fact that this in no way justifies their actions.

It's important to understand why someone has committed a crime in order to hopefully prevent it from happening again which is why I'm not arguing against the points you've made. Unfortunately, these grooming gangs probably happen in Pakistan but they're A LOT less likely to get picked up on.

You're sort of playing "devil's advocate" which makes me a little uncomfortable given the subject matter...Instead of telling white people to sort themselves out (lol never thought I'd be typing that) I think it's much more vital that we condemn the actions of these certain Pakistani men and make it clear that this sort of thing does not go unnoticed and is not tolerated in this country.

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