Why would you want a multi-cultural society?

To examine the effects of multiculturalism on society and to (hopefully) draw conclusions on what form of multiculturalism ( if any) would be the best outcome for society.

To keep with the footballing analogy, could you fit Messi into the Stoke City way of playing football? Some cultures simply do not mix very well.

Aside from your few nitpicks, which as a % of the globe come in at under 10% of landmass

This diagrams is generally correct, as the people of these certain groups all show lots of similarities in the defining factors such as religious idealogy etc.

To keep with the footballing analogy, could you fit Messi into the Stoke City way of playing football? Some cultures simply do not mix very well.

Oh, I coulda ripped into it further, trust me.



It's correct insofar as it shows us what Latin America is, where the rest of the world's Christians live, were black people come from and where Muslims live. An 11-year old could produce that map, but they wouldn't label any of those groups as 'civilisations'.

Because diversification makes you stronger.




An overly simplistic metaphor, maybe, but look at professional football teams. Look at the diversity in the leading English teams. Imagine a team limiting itself to purely those players from within it's postcodes. It might have the odd strong link, but there'd be many more weak links.

Unless I've misread the OP has not labelled the map with civilizations?

The map isn't ideal, but the point is that there are distinctions in which people across the globe go about their daily lives and these distinctions can conflict with one another, unfortunately.

Or I'm even sure you would agree (for example) that if they come to England they should try to be a part of the British Culture, while still practising what they wish in the privacy of their own home.

The fact of the matter is some cultures aren't compatible with others. A culture that emphatically believes in X isn't going to fit perfectly within a society that vehemently opposes X. Claiming that is 'bigotry' is disingenuous.

As has been said, it isn't a race issue and it never was. It's the culture which makes people behave in the way they do, not colour.

But they don't do that though.... do they?

Again, it would be fantastic if people could all think, and importantly feel, in terms of a top layer of oneness that transcends all mortal prejudices e.g. the brotherhood of humanity, and this is something we are moving towards as a civilisation/group of ‘civilised’ nations/communities. Unfortunately we’re not there yet

Because one is naive enough to think (hope) the world is like a Disney movie.. full of light, and colour, and love

Unfortunately history has repeatedly shown, and most poignantly since the breakup of the Soviet Union, that mankind has not evolved to a sufficiently high state of dispassion (tolerance) or lost his capacity to discriminate (in the sense of indentifying: 'them and us') in order to qualify multiculturalism as the ideal that it is on paper, and die-hard/head in sand liberals would have you believe it is in practice

People have civilisational, religious, cultural, ethnic, local identities, affinities and allegences (usually in that order) and those that stick to them too rigidly, or in some cases violently, only serve as to demonstrate innate incompatibilities between such groupings and, at the macro level, the failure of the general model of inter-civilisational (and inter-religious, where Islam is concerned) multiculturalism

I would love to live in a socially cohesive, harmonious diverse society but I am resigned to the depressing reality that until mankind transcends his mortal foibles this is just a dream in all but regions with the most dilute, integrated/culturally assimilated concentrations of immigrant peoples

People say things like "we're an Island founded on immigration/we're all immigrants/look at the Huganos" etc etc, but they ignore the fact that where such demographic changes did not lead to horrific violence and massive social upheaval we're typically talking relatively small numbers of people who trickled in from relatively short distances, were from similar cultures and usually the same civilisation, and were eager to integrate

IMO its not about whether we want a multicultural society. It just doesn't matter. ........People should not have this agenda of enforcing their beliefs on others,

Surely you want to enforce your belief on people that multicultural society is good or does not matter. I.e. a liberal wants to enforce to people that they should not object to multicultural society.


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IMO its not about whether we want a multicultural society. It just doesn't matter. What we need is tolerance between all cultures and in fact it would be best to not view the cultures as separate but as one huge human culture. If we divide people into groups, they will not be at peace.

People should not have this agenda of enforcing their beliefs on others, in fact they should not even care about the trivial personal choices of others.

I know you have good intentions and you have my respect for that, however this view is utterly flawed. Say there are two cultures A and B if A is technological and economically more powerful than B it will inadvertently and on purpose export its culture e.g. Americanisation (so inadvertently being through movies and on purpose being dictating what is right and wrong). People in B will not like this and see it as a form of soft invasion, this will manifest itself as friction.