Do us Muslims need to leave the UK?

Multiculturalism in general is a nightmare, the problem is not Islam

But here you are employing an "us against them" mentality.

As I said above, and as I will say again, being British and being Muslim is not mutually exclusive. They are not separate things - you can be both at the same time. Therefore, I cannot for the life of me think of where you "British Muslims" will go!" It is akin to a White Briton in the early decades of the 20th century who converted to Islam. He was a white man born and bred in the UK with several generations of English ancestry - where would you have had him go, seeing as people in this thread are asking "Do us Muslims need to leave the UK?"

Do you envision setting up your own Israeli-analogue or something? A New Muslim state?

If you are saying that then surely you could argue that what the Nazis did to the Jews wasn't racism.

To be fair, if every time you turn on the news you see the media bashing one aspect of your identity, making you feel as though that's everyone's opinion of that part of your identity, then that's bound to make you feel like that part of your identity is a big deal, even if you don't want it to be.

I am a muslim who was born and raised in the UK. As a British citizen, I am anti-war and disagree with things like the war in Afghanistan. However, I understand that this is my opinion and I am grateful for the right this country provides me to have my own belief and not be persecuted for it. I am in no way extremist, I love peace like the majority of muslims and non-muslims, so while you won't see me supporting the army you won't see me burning poppies either.

Similarly, In accordance with my faith I do not drink alcohol or go on pub crawls. While to an ethnic British person that might seem as if I haven't "integrated" into British society, I don't think that makes me any less of an english citizen than anyone else. I shouldn't have to leave this country because of that surely? You seem to be rather ignorant if you think every muslim who disagrees with certain aspects of the UK should immediately leave and essentially 'go home.'

I do not feel "in tune with British society" because I do not follow many of the cultural aspects (e.g. drinking, having a girlfriend, etc.) purely of my own choice in accordance with my religion. I have english friends who do all of these things, and I don't judge them for it and we can still be good friends regardless of our differences. I fail to understand why that is such a problem - although you seem to think this gives me potential to be a "domestic terrorist." You're either being purposefully outrageous or you're just ignorant.

I think we should all leave and go Islamic countries personally :/.
Some of the English people are being very racist which is understandable but they haven't really thought about what would happen if we all did leave :/. If all the Muslims do decide to leave do you honestly think that they will have the NHS? The hospital here in Cambridge is literally full of Muslim doctors. I recently went there and i saw some white nurses but no white doctors. Another thing is, when you don't really make Muslims comfortable in your country and they all decide to leave you normally do tend to loose investment. The Shard was built due to the investments by a family of Muslims, most of the petrol comes from an Islamic nation.
Also it might shock people but most Muslims here aren't really poor and some of them do actually come from really nice countries like the UAE. They keep saying go home Muslims and my home is Canada .
The English seem to be just focusing on the really negative aspects of Muslim society :/. It's like me going to a Stoke and saying "All English people are lazy, they just like to claim benefits"

BTW i didn't really understand your opinion on this thread . Do you think we should all leave the UK??

No, Muslims definitely should not need to leave the UK. However some do need to realise that this is Britain not Pakistan or Bangladesh - we should not have to adapt many of our customs to suit a minority and the tiny percentage of Muslims who believe they are entitled to it here are being unfair. If they wish to live under Muslim laws, go to live in a Muslim country surely? I am not anti-Islam or racist, my dad's sister married in to a Muslim family who I see often and they express the same views. Just to reiterate, I know it is a tiny percentage of people.

Dude, all Muslims, aren't even part of the same sect, let alone the same following!

Additionally, when there's some sort of massacre of innocents in Sub-Saharan Africa or whatnot, I am upset, not simply because they are African, but because a group of innocent humans were slaughtered. The same goes if a group of innocents were slaughtered in Iraq or Pakistan or India.

One of the single most divisive thing in humanity is religion - these strange beliefs in the unknown and unseen that actually serve to divide humanity as a whole, rather than unite humanity. Sure, you might be united - but you are united within your own "in-group", you are not united with your fellow humans in humanity.

I pray for a hegemonic extraterrestrial race to attack us, because only then will we drop our nonsensical beliefs and unite as one Race to fight the external force. Until then, it'll always be "my belief's better than yours", "my God's bigger and better than yours", "mine's right, your's in wrong"

Religion only serves to divide us - and you know how the saying goes "United We Stand; Divided We Fall".

After what happened on Wednesday, a lot of people on TSR and other social networks have been saying things such as 'Muslims need to get out of the UK'.
As a Muslim and British Citizen, I can't help but think they have a valid point. Why don't we all just pack our bags and go back to our countries, even if they are war torn or unstable. Why does the West have to take us in? Where are the Muslim nations? Where is Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, UAE? We don't belong here unless we 'intergrate' more. Well, most of us go to school/college/uni/work with non-Muslims and have colleagues/friends that are non-Muslim, yet people still say we don't intergrate. This is because by 'intergrate' they mean leave our religious practices and adapt to the 'British culture' which basically means marry into non-Muslim families and for girls, take off those long medival clothes and wear more 'British clothes'. Well atleast that's how I see it.

I want to hear from fellow Muslims, do you honestly think you belong here? And do you think it's time we all left and helped rebuild our countries?

p.s. I appreciate every non-Muslim that has been defending the rest of us Muslims.Thank you.


p.p.s. I don't want any anti-Islam people on this thread.

Judaism is a race, the title is passed down from mother to offspring. It's a religion on top of that. Islam however is a religion alone.

INCAPABILITY TO FIT IN? When you try and infuriate people...don't expect them to not get infuriated. Those Muslims in that video got angry not because they felt like, but because they were criticized and mocked. Is it so difficult for everyone to just respect everyone? Ridiculous.

Thats the issue right there.

Islam has to be immune from criticism and it is extremely frustrating because at the moment no other religion claims this privilege. I have never heard anyone say muslims need to leave and i dont want them to. If i want to criticise islam I will do so, there is a difference between being horrible about muslims (which is obviously wrong unless youre talking about a specific person) and criticising islam for its many many flaws.

Could stupid people just leave the UK instead?

If you think "drinking and having a girl-friend" is inherently "British", then you're more warped than I thought.

What would you think of the masses who don't drink alcohol then, but who happen to be White Britons? You're quite confused, aren't you?

You're one of those who needs religion, otherwise without it, you'd be lost and greatly immoral.

I'm terribly surprised that you think not drinking is non-British. Have you been to some none-drinking societies at universities - will it shock you to see that many of them are non-religious and white?

So this is what they preach in Mosques, is it? That all the young White British do "is drink a lot and sleep around, but we are good Muslims and we do not do such things." And since when was "having a girl-friend" a solely British thing?

So whenever you don't have anything to say...you jump to the comment about 'us' and 'them'. When we are criticised its hard to feel part of the society honestly. Respect is something we all need to learn. Lets leave it at that and stop arguing.