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Vague Masters Application Concern

Hello!

I've got a good 2:1 from Durham in Politics.

I've applied to the MA Democracy and Elections course at Manchester, where the entry requirement is a 2:1.

I emailed admissions to find out which documents I would need to apply with. They replied explicitly saying only transcripts were needed, and not to bother sending a reference or a statement.

So that's exactly what I've done, just now. I easily meet the requirements, but I feel like there is no information about me in this application. They literally just have my contact details and grades.

What I'm asking is, am I likely to be rejected or accepted? This isn't at all like undergrad and I'm very confused - if I'm not accepted, why? I really don't know what more I could have done.

Why would I be rejected? I know for a fact there are places avaliable on the course still, and I get the impression there is no cap on places - how can they choose with just grades? I suppose just take the strongest?

If you've got the grades, is getting into a non-Oxbridge university quite easy? I hadn't expected it to be!

Any one else had a similar experience? I remember applying to university as a much more complicated process than this first time round!
(edited 10 years ago)
Reply 1
This doesn't tend to be the norm! :tongue:

I do remember one of the universities I applied to last year gave me an offer on the back of my personal details (name, address, etc.) and one reference (assuming that had even reached them at that point). It was bizarre. One of my lecturers, however, knows the guy who runs that course and apparently they give out offers to the first 20 people who apply as long as they are predicted a 2.1 just to justify running the course...whether this is actually true, I don't know, but there you go :tongue:

If you get an offer, then yay! If you don't, you can always bring up the fact that you felt that they were unfair because they had nothing but your transcripts to go on.
Reply 2
Original post by aeterno
This doesn't tend to be the norm! :tongue:

I do remember one of the universities I applied to last year gave me an offer on the back of my personal details (name, address, etc.) and one reference (assuming that had even reached them at that point). It was bizarre. One of my lecturers, however, knows the guy who runs that course and apparently they give out offers to the first 20 people who apply as long as they are predicted a 2.1 just to justify running the course...whether this is actually true, I don't know, but there you go :tongue:

If you get an offer, then yay! If you don't, you can always bring up the fact that you felt that they were unfair because they had nothing but your transcripts to go on.


Wow. The Masters are cash cows for the department aren't they? : /
Original post by kka25
Wow. The Masters are cash cows for the department aren't they? : /


Exactly what I was thinking. Just have to see what happens I suppose.
That is not typical at all, but considering it is a taught not research master's makes your statement significantly less important. However, not even wanting references is odd but again, if your grades are good it is obvious your references will be too. In other words, the course probably just isn't that competitive so they are simply looking for students who can deal with the rigours of a master's in general.

Off-topic, but may I ask why you didn't apply to Durham for your MA? What did you think of their Politics department?
Original post by maskofsanity
Off-topic, but may I ask why you didn't apply to Durham for your MA? What did you think of their Politics department?


I loved every second of Politics at Durham. I just don't want to be there for more than three years, when all my friends have graduated. My college (Castle) feels like my home, and staying there without what I love about it - the people - is not what I want.

The Politics department is strong. If you are interested in Islam/ Middle East/ IR generally I fully recommend. To be honest, I specialised in the economy and the USA, and I still fully recommend. I cannot praise Durham Politics enough.

However, I'm choose to study elsewhere to 'end on a high' with Durham, and because the job opportunity I have with the BBC at Salford is unmissable. I also think I'll enjoy the contrast of colleges and big city university. I'm very comfortable in Manchester - Manchester is home, and living there will be a significant, appealing cost-cutter for me.

In short, I'm choosing Manchester, not because of dissatisfaction with Durham, but because I want the lifestyle change.
Reply 6
Original post by perfumeandpolitics
Hello!

I've got a good 2:1 from Durham in Politics.

I've applied to the MA Democracy and Elections course at Manchester, where the entry requirement is a 2:1.

I emailed admissions to find out which documents I would need to apply with. They replied explicitly saying only transcripts were needed, and not to bother sending a reference or a statement.

So that's exactly what I've done, just now.


Did you JUST apply based on the email they or did you also read the information on their website/prospectus on the application process? Any university of good standing has info on their website on how to apply and what documents you need to submit. And if you do it electronically, there'll be even more instructions bundled in to help you with the submission.

What I would do is check available online information on the application process for this course. If the written documentation says 'just submit transcripts and nothing else', then you are 100% safe. Because that's all the info any other applicant would get. If the official documents say something different to the email, then I would get concerned. As it is, I wouldn't go with just the emails, which are informal.
(edited 10 years ago)
Original post by DeMoomin
Did you JUST apply based on the email they or did you also read the information on their website/prospectus on the application process? Any university of good standing has info on their website on how to apply and what documents you need to submit. And if you do it electronically, there'll be even more instructions bundled in to help you with the submission.

What I would do is check available online information on the application process for this course. If the written documentation says 'just submit transcripts and nothing else', then you are 100% safe. Because that's all the info any other applicant would get. If the official documents say something different to the email, then I would get concerned. As it is, I wouldn't go with just the emails, which are informal.


Bit late now.
Reply 8
^ Then why did you ask for advice? Anything anyone says would be pointless either way. However, if you want peace of mind for yourself, then like I advised earlier, just go check the publicly available information to confirm they didn't accidentally tell you nonsense.
It's cool, I sorted it all out before I applied, it wasn't a flippant thing. The university website and department website had conflicting information, so I asked for clarification. The admissions team have told me that they will contact me if anything else was required, but it shouldn't need to be.

I asked for advice because I wanted to know how normal this was as a process.
Original post by perfumeandpolitics
Hello!

I've got a good 2:1 from Durham in Politics.

I've applied to the MA Democracy and Elections course at Manchester, where the entry requirement is a 2:1.

I emailed admissions to find out which documents I would need to apply with. They replied explicitly saying only transcripts were needed, and not to bother sending a reference or a statement.

So that's exactly what I've done, just now. I easily meet the requirements, but I feel like there is no information about me in this application. They literally just have my contact details and grades.

What I'm asking is, am I likely to be rejected or accepted? This isn't at all like undergrad and I'm very confused - if I'm not accepted, why? I really don't know what more I could have done.

Why would I be rejected? I know for a fact there are places avaliable on the course still, and I get the impression there is no cap on places - how can they choose with just grades? I suppose just take the strongest?

If you've got the grades, is getting into a non-Oxbridge university quite easy? I hadn't expected it to be!

Any one else had a similar experience? I remember applying to university as a much more complicated process than this first time round!


I applied to Manchester too and I was pretty surprised they never wanted a personal statement. They did want references though, but only after they had made me an offer :confused: Anyway, it seems that Manchester was definitely more relaxed about PS & references than my other choices (LSE & Leeds).
Reply 11
Original post by You!Me!Dancing!
Anyway, it seems that Manchester was definitely more relaxed about PS & references than my other choices (LSE & Leeds).


Bear in mind though that that doesn't mean the program is any better...
Original post by kka25
Bear in mind though that that doesn't mean the program is any better...


It does imply it though.
From my experience, Manchester require more information such as a PS and references if you want funding but your degree classification and basic info will suffice if not.
Original post by Eugenie Grandet
From my experience, Manchester require more information such as a PS and references if you want funding but your degree classification and basic info will suffice if not.


Makes sense. I don't need funding.
Reply 15
Original post by perfumeandpolitics
Hello!

I've got a good 2:1 from Durham in Politics.

I've applied to the MA Democracy and Elections course at Manchester, where the entry requirement is a 2:1.

I emailed admissions to find out which documents I would need to apply with. They replied explicitly saying only transcripts were needed, and not to bother sending a reference or a statement.

So that's exactly what I've done, just now. I easily meet the requirements, but I feel like there is no information about me in this application. They literally just have my contact details and grades.

What I'm asking is, am I likely to be rejected or accepted? This isn't at all like undergrad and I'm very confused - if I'm not accepted, why? I really don't know what more I could have done.

Why would I be rejected? I know for a fact there are places avaliable on the course still, and I get the impression there is no cap on places - how can they choose with just grades? I suppose just take the strongest?

If you've got the grades, is getting into a non-Oxbridge university quite easy? I hadn't expected it to be!

Any one else had a similar experience? I remember applying to university as a much more complicated process than this first time round!


Did you get an offer in the end? The same thing happened to me, I applied for the MA in Political Economy at Manchester and they told me there was no need for a PS or references, I sent in my application got an offer within a week.

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