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Original post by Rakas21
CPI fell to 1.6%, the lowest since August 2009.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10612209

Unemployment fell by 77,000 to 6.9% and the claimant count fell by 30,400.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10604117

Q1 GDP grew by 0.8% (3.1% year on year - highest since Q1 2008).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-27203433

Some interesting data within that..

Agriculture: -0.7%, 1.8% year on year
Production: 0.8%, 2.5% year on year
Manufacturing: 1.3%, 3.4% year on year
Construction: 0.3%, 5.1% year on year
Services: 0.9%, 3% year on year
Distribution, hotels & restaurants: 1.5%, 4.9% year on year
Transport, storage & communication: 1.1%, 1.4% year on year
Business services & finance: 0.9%, 3.6% year on year
Government & other services: 0.4%, 1.5% year on year

A strange fall in agriculture (perhaps related to the weather) but other than we see rather broad growth.

Manufacturing, construction, distribution, hotels and restaurants, business services, services as a whole and finance are all driving good growth in the economy. Agriculture, production as a whole, transport, storage and communication are all holding us back so one would hope that government assesses the reasons why and takes action.

Also, considering the "savage austerity" that some talk about it's highly amusing that government (the NHS most likely) has contributed.

http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/gva/gross-domestic-product--preliminary-estimate/q1-2014/stb-gdp-preliminary-estimate--q1-2014.html#tab-Growth-and-contributions-to-growth-–-output-components

The Pound is just shy of a 4 year high against the dollar at $1.68.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-29/pound-falls-from-near-4-year-high-as-u-k-gdp-misses-estimates.html


Good news. Although people will still complain. The guardian comments page is still awash with triple dip recession comments. :smile:

I think we'll end up realising shortly that the 'austerity' wasn't as bad as it was made out to be.
Original post by Rakas21
CPI fell to 1.6%, the lowest since August 2009.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10612209

Unemployment fell by 77,000 to 6.9% and the claimant count fell by 30,400.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10604117

Q1 GDP grew by 0.8% (3.1% year on year - highest since Q1 2008).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-27203433

Some interesting data within that..

Agriculture: -0.7%, 1.8% year on year
Production: 0.8%, 2.5% year on year
Manufacturing: 1.3%, 3.4% year on year
Construction: 0.3%, 5.1% year on year
Services: 0.9%, 3% year on year
Distribution, hotels & restaurants: 1.5%, 4.9% year on year
Transport, storage & communication: 1.1%, 1.4% year on year
Business services & finance: 0.9%, 3.6% year on year
Government & other services: 0.4%, 1.5% year on year

A strange fall in agriculture (perhaps related to the weather) but other than we see rather broad growth.

Manufacturing, construction, distribution, hotels and restaurants, business services, services as a whole and finance are all driving good growth in the economy. Agriculture, production as a whole, transport, storage and communication are all holding us back so one would hope that government assesses the reasons why and takes action.

Also, considering the "savage austerity" that some talk about it's highly amusing that government (the NHS most likely) has contributed.

http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/gva/gross-domestic-product--preliminary-estimate/q1-2014/stb-gdp-preliminary-estimate--q1-2014.html#tab-Growth-and-contributions-to-growth-–-output-components

The Pound is just shy of a 4 year high against the dollar at $1.68.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-29/pound-falls-from-near-4-year-high-as-u-k-gdp-misses-estimates.html


Excellent news, quite surprised construction hasn't registered a higher growth as was expecting more.

In regards to agriculture am quite surprised the contraction wasn't more especially in view of the recent floods, changing weather patterns and a slight fall in certain wheat prices. Also affecting it is the rise in cost of fertilizers which has been on the rise again.
Original post by MatureStudent36
Good news. Although people will still complain. The guardian comments page is still awash with triple dip recession comments. :smile:

I think we'll end up realising shortly that the 'austerity' wasn't as bad as it was made out to be.


What austerity? :smile:
Original post by Alfissti
What austerity? :smile:


Public perceptions get driven a lot by what's in the media. This recent recession and the sluggish return IMHO has been compounded by none stop negativity.
Reply 84
Unemployment fell by 161,000 to 6.6%!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-27791749

Inflation falls to 1.5%, food and non-alcoholic beverage prices see deflation.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-27884113

Pound continues to appreciate to $1.70 (possibly why inflation is relatively weak).

http://www.cityam.com/blog/1402903188/pound-touches-170-level-first-time-august-2009

Construction PMI falls to a 7 month low at 60.0..

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/jun/03/uk-construction-industry-still-booming-may-dip

Manufacturing PMI falls to a 2 month low at 57.0 however production expands at a quarterly rate of about 1.5%

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-27663851

Service PMI falls to a 2 month low at 58.6.

Employment PMI hits a joint record at 56.2 (indicates fastest employment growth in at least 17 years)

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/jun/04/service-sector-cements-uk-economic-good-news

....

All in all quite good news and suggests that Q2 will match, if not beat Q1.
Reply 85
Pound hit an almost 6 year high of $1.71.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-07-07/pound-weakens-after-bullish-bets-reached-7-year-high

Construction PMI at a 4 month high of 62.6.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/07/02/uk-construction-pmi-idUKKBN0F70OG20140702

Manufacturing PMI rises to 57.5. Manufacuring employment growing at a 39 month high.



http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/43515588-00fc-11e4-a938-00144feab7de.html#axzz36nAcdMOl

Service sector PMI fell to 58.6. Service sector employment growing at a record pace.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28140512
Whatever happened to the triple dip recession? :smile:
Reply 87
Original post by Alfissti
Whatever happened to the triple dip recession? :smile:


Pessimists got beaten..

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UK unemployment fell by 121,000 to 2.12 million in the three months to May, official figures show.

The figure is the lowest level in nearly six years, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS).

The rate of unemployment also fell again, to 6.5% from 6.6% in the three months to April.

The number of people claiming jobseeker's allowance last month fell by 36,300 to 1.04 million, the ONS added.

The latest figures also show that more than 78% of men and 68% of women are in work, giving an employment rate of 73.1%.

Prime Minister David Cameron said this was now equal to the record rate of employment set in 2005.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28325361

CPI rose to 1.9%.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28308837

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Interestingly Morgan Stanley believes that if Scotland left in September there'd be a 10% decline in Pound Sterling. One assumes though given the hedging that a yes vote will see an appreciation albeit smaller.
Reply 88
Original post by Rakas21
Pessimists got beaten..

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28325361

CPI rose to 1.9%.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28308837

....

Interestingly Morgan Stanley believes that if Scotland left in September there'd be a 10% decline in Pound Sterling. One assumes though given the hedging that a yes vote will see an appreciation albeit smaller.


Deficit is being very stubborn...
Reply 89
Original post by Quady
Deficit is being very stubborn...


Yes but spending is actually rising slightly anyway, we never got the proper cuts of Europe. The important thing is that as a percentage of GDP its falling and that's really what the market cares about. There's also the obvious monthly variation year on year.

I expect a wave of deeper cuts in the 2016 budget.
Reply 90
Q2 GDP grew by 0.8% (3.1% year on year - highest since Q1 2008).

Some interesting data within that..

Agriculture: -0.2%, 1.4% year on year
Production: 0.4%, 2.2% year on year
Construction: -0.5%, 4.2% year on year
Distribution, hotels & restaurants: 1.3%, 4.9% year on year
Transport, storage & communication: 1.2%, 2.2% year on year
Business services & finance: 1,3%, 4.2% year on year
Government & other services: 0.2%, 1.6% year on year

A strange fall in agriculture and construction but other than we see rather broad growth.

On a year on year basis construction, distribution, hotels and restaurants and business services and finance are all driving strong growth.

http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/gva/gross-domestic-product--preliminary-estimate/q2-2014/stb-gdp-preliminary-estimate--q2-2014.html#tab-Industry-Analysis

The Pound has weakened the past month to $1.68.

http://www.euroexchangeratenews.com/gbpusd-exchange-rate-softens-following-increased-demand-for-the-us-dollar/8213

Construction PMI stayed high in July at 62.4. Job growth in construction grew at its fastest rate on record.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28636549

Manufacturing PMI fell to the lowest in a year at 55.4.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28676449

Service PMI rose to 59.1, the highest in 8 months.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28658795

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Housebuilding also grew at the fastest level since 2003.
Reply 91
Missed this due to being busy.

With regards to the PMI figures, all 3 sectors of the economy were above the 50 mark in August and September. Composite PMI was 59.7 in August and 58.1 in September.

UK unemployment fell to 6.2% in September and 6% today. 1.3 million full time jobs have been created since 2010. Employment rate is now 73% (historic peak is 73.2%). Number of self employed is 279,000 higher than a year ago which smells dodgy but that's still not significant against the real employment gains noted above. Youth unemployment fell to 16% which sounds high but peaked at 22% in 2011 and only fell to around 12% during the previous business cycle.



Inflation has continued to fall as it has since 2011 and is now at 1.2% driven notably by falling food and oil prices (now down to ~$80 per barrel)..





Pound has fallen to $1.59, close to a 10% fall since July.
Original post by Rakas21
Missed this due to being busy.

With regards to the PMI figures, all 3 sectors of the economy were above the 50 mark in August and September. Composite PMI was 59.7 in August and 58.1 in September.

UK unemployment fell to 6.2% in September and 6% today. 1.3 million full time jobs have been created since 2010. Employment rate is now 73% (historic peak is 73.2%). Number of self employed is 279,000 higher than a year ago which smells dodgy but that's still not significant against the real employment gains noted above. Youth unemployment fell to 16% which sounds high but peaked at 22% in 2011 and only fell to around 12% during the previous business cycle.



Inflation has continued to fall as it has since 2011 and is now at 1.2% driven notably by falling food and oil prices (now down to ~$80 per barrel)..





Pound has fallen to $1.59, close to a 10% fall since July.


So generally quite good?
Reply 93
Original post by MatureStudent36
So generally quite good?


Yup. Pound decline may temper falling inflation though.
Original post by Rakas21
Yup. Pound decline may temper falling inflation though.


Hopefully. Compensated by falling oil prices thiugh
Reply 95
Original post by MatureStudent36
Hopefully. Compensated by falling oil prices thiugh


Yup, I'm just hoking the UK misses the fall out of Eurozone downturn and oil price fluctuation.

Eurozone inflation will have to go negative by the end of the year surely. Seems like real QE is still off the cards there.

Still petrol under £1.20/l will be welcome, I'm just hoping one day it'll feed into energy prices...

As ever Raskas, great thread :smile:
Original post by Quady
Yup, I'm just hoking the UK misses the fall out of Eurozone downturn and oil price fluctuation.

Eurozone inflation will have to go negative by the end of the year surely. Seems like real QE is still off the cards there.

Still petrol under £1.20/l will be welcome, I'm just hoping one day it'll feed into energy prices...

As ever Raskas, great thread :smile:

Good post Quady

And now for the nay sayers.
Reply 97
Original post by MatureStudent36
Good post Quady

And now for the nay sayers.


They've been pleasingly absent here.

Any thoughts on interest rates? Inflation suggests it shouldn't happen yet, but I kinda think the sooner we start raising the sooner we get back to reality levels, just start at say a 0.15% rise.
Original post by Quady
They've been pleasingly absent here.

Any thoughts on interest rates? Inflation suggests it shouldn't happen yet, but I kinda think the sooner we start raising the sooner we get back to reality levels, just start at say a 0.15% rise.


I'm no economist, but a friend of mine who works in the finance sector told me several years ago that told me interest rates will never vary much around euro zone interest rates.

No doubt when they go up again, some people will complain. Wise people took the significant savings in mortgage payements and either overpaid or set up a slush find of cash.

I'd rather they don't go up, but you know they will at some point so I'm already preparing for it by making sure I've got my current budget under control to absorb the increase.
Reply 99
Original post by Quady
They've been pleasingly absent here.

Any thoughts on interest rates? Inflation suggests it shouldn't happen yet, but I kinda think the sooner we start raising the sooner we get back to reality levels, just start at say a 0.15% rise.


I'd be betting July 2015 or after the quarterly inflation report around then.

I imagine probably only a 0.25% rise in 2015 followed by the curbing of Help to buy and a 0.5% rise in 2016. If memory serves, a lot of pre-recession mortgages (not sure about now) had clauses in so that the banks did not have to lower interest rates beyond 2-3% so i imagine they'd be relatively aggressive to that point if the economy continues to fire.

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