Do you consider regular gym-goers/'fit' people fit the negative stereotype surroundin

There's also no purpose for reading if you're a plumber...

... that's what you're trying to express?

Cardiovascular work has got nothing to do with the muscle pump you refer to (the ones bodybuilders chase). Nor do you have to enter a gym to work on cardio.

I've concluded you're a bit of an idiot and your responses don't make sense. I won't be replying to you. It's a waste of time.

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I almost guarantee I did more fitness training than you whilst school age, none of it would be of benefit to me now if I hadn't kept exercise up. Even elite athletes can quickly lose their fitness levels if they stop doing any exercise after retirement.

Studies have suggested (but not concluded) that significant disuse atrophy can start as early as the 3rd day of not using a muscle.

So no, what you did years ago means almost nothing now. There's a reason people who actually get anywhere call it a lifestyle.

Oh... That might be over thinking...

My physique, however it is, doesn't negatively impact in any aspect of my day to day activities. Essentially, rendering me goin to the gym a waste of time.


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I wasn't some body builder dude back then. But whatever...

You are just butt hurt that you can't spot what you blathered.... Or just butt hurt you can't admit you didn't spot what you blathered.

So what? It's a hobby, just like riding a bike or reading a lot of books can be a hobby.

It's not as if we had a higher purpose in life to which going to the gym doesn't contribute - we can choose for ourselves how we want to spend our time, and by doing it it makes sense to us. If it doesn't we can change our habits.

So to repeat - not reading books also doesn't negatively impact on some people's day to day activities - is that a reason for branding it especially useless?

That's even worse then. The more muscle you have when you start off, the more you have to lose and the quicker you lose it but the end result would still be better.

> ad hominem
> straw man
> wrong

Obviously your workload is going really well for you intellectually.

If going to the gym is a mere hobby to you, I'd proudly say "you are wasting your time, buddy"

Your last statement is wrong on so many levels... Knowledge gained from a book is always valuable...

My case could be a rare exception =D

Id say the only attribute that I truly lost, is my stamina. Speed, flexibility and jazz are somewhat all still there.

O rly?

Care to elaborate?




Uh... yeah. 'Cause the average person reading the average book is going to get so much out of it. Have you looked at the best-seller list lately? Do you really think all these books are dishing out valuable knowledge and wisdom?

Even if they were, I doubt the majority of people reading it would actually reflect on that...





And what about riding a bike for fun? Waste of time? Yeah, of course. In case you still didn't get my point: everything is a waste of time if we don't get anything of value from it.

My hobbies, likes, work.... Everything is closely connected to my professional (and personal) aspirations. Those that are not connected are obviously fading away.

#1: you can get my response on the first page of this thread

#2: believe it or not, during one of the meetings, we had Harry potter among others as a topic.

#3: Riding for fun?! Well if I'm doing it tomorrow, I'll be wasting my time.

My hobbies, likes, work.... Everything is closely connected to my professional (and personal) aspirations. Those that are not connected are obviously fading away.


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Yes, you and not someone whose entire career has been built upon their freakish athletic ability, are the exception to this rule, presumably by a span 2 or 3 times that of the 3 to 1 rule.

That tells me either you never trained them above your natural genetic level or never tested them in any meaningful, quantifiable manner.

Your musical ability I can't comment upon, though I suppose once you know your scales and arpeggios jazz is something that could be like riding a bike.

So essentially you're making my point for me. You say you 'waste your time' with things that you think you don't get any value out of.

Now, as you may know, some people - not you, obviously, but some people - see enjoyment as a value in itself. So there you are.

What is this job that takes such a colossal amount of your time? I know guys working in high pressure environments (Big 4, BB, Magic Circle etc.) who still find time to go to the gym or have other hobbies unrelated to trading/law/consultancy/tax/whatever, you subbing for Lloyd Blankfein or something?

'Tis a sad day when people actively trying to keep themselves fit and healthy have negative stereotypes attached to them yet god forbid someone call a fatty lazy or lacking in self discipline.

I just don't agree, in good tastes, with people when they say they-like-working-out-in-the-gym.

Well but some do. Me for example. I like it. I like the results.

What now?

We have an obesity epidemic in the UK and USA. Therefore promoting a more active and healthier lifestyle is imperative for the vast majority of people.
Apart from this, biologically we're more inclined to be attracted to more 'in-shape' mates. It indicates health, longevity, the ability to take care of oneself and others in the wild. We may not live in the 'wild' anymore here, but we can't overcome this entirely, it's a natural instinct.

At the same time, looks aren't everything, and our minds should have developed far enough by now to be attracted to non-physical qualities.
There's a myth surrounding fitness culture that somebody in excellent shape must (if they're not a professional) be vain, arrogant, conceited-or be very insecure in their personality and have few other responsibilities to tend to. Does being ripped mean that you've become narcissistic, or there's something wrong with you?

I'm interested to see what people think, and where you draw the line. (This is probably going to be a biased thread because I'm posting in the Fitness forum, bear that in mind).
Surely it all lies in the balance? Or does it lie in the goal (athletic prowess being less vain than aesthetics for example)?
Obsession is never good, it can have terrible consequences for some people-but few people will go this length. Its opposite, apathy, is possibly worse when it comes to your own well-being, isn't it? Maybe not.

Gyms are full of dicks.

There's two types of people who go to the gym.

1. People who want to get fit. Just normal people, or sportsmen/ women or whatever they just want to stay in shape.


2. Dickheads who love looking in the mirror. Wear 'tank tops' or what I can only describe is a thread of material covering nipples and nothing else.