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Original post by AndyKentHistory
Re: whether to live in halls or stay at home

im in this dilemma right now, I'm going to Uni this October and I still haven't decided where to live, the university isn't far from where I live; 30 minutes drive to the station, then 25 minutes train journey however the accommodation there is brilliant and I do want to live independently..however the big snag in my plan is the fact that my girlfriend who I have been with for nearly 2 years hates the idea of moving away and thinks that it will result in us splitting up. I don't want that but I also want to have a social life at Uni and not have to get up at 7am to be in for early starts etc. can anyone offer me any advice? Anyone been in this situation before and if so what did you do about it? It's really playing on my mind


Have you read the first page of this thread?

Go away to uni, and make friends, have a good time, visit and be visited by your girfriend regularly. Very few people marry the person that they are with when they're 17/18, but if you're meant to be together then you'll stay together through uni. She sounds a bit insecure tbh.

For what it's worth I happen to know a girl who did stay at home for the sake of a boyfriend, and had a long commute because of it. When they broke up mid way through second year she realised that she had very little left - all her friends at home had moved away, she'd never made friends at uni, and she had broken up with her boyfriend.

If your girlfriend loves and trusts you, she'll want what's best for you.
Your right if course, thanks for the advice. I do need to talk to her about it all I think and yeah she is abit insecure when it comes to our relationship, I've told her that Uni wouldn't stop us seeing each other (she only lives 30 minutes from the campus). I wouldn't want to be like that girl having no friends when my relationship ends if it did, that's the last thing I'd want.
Home or Halls?

Whatever floats your boat. But don't assume that you will make friends if you live in halls, and don't assume you won't make friends because you live at home. It depends on how you are as a person, and there are a number of ways to make friends - societies, your course, department etc.
From all the stories I hear about good student experiences, experiencing life in halls always seems to be involved. I think you should definitely allow yourself to have the experience.
Original post by AndyKentHistory
Re: whether to live in halls or stay at home

im in this dilemma right now, I'm going to Uni this October and I still haven't decided where to live, the university isn't far from where I live; 30 minutes drive to the station, then 25 minutes train journey however the accommodation there is brilliant and I do want to live independently..however the big snag in my plan is the fact that my girlfriend who I have been with for nearly 2 years hates the idea of moving away and thinks that it will result in us splitting up. I don't want that but I also want to have a social life at Uni and not have to get up at 7am to be in for early starts etc. can anyone offer me any advice? Anyone been in this situation before and if so what did you do about it? It's really playing on my mind


thats still an hour not accounting for traffic and waiting for the train/train delays and getting from the station to campus at the other end. It sounds like your gf is worried about the prospect of you living with girls if she is only 30 mins away as that isn't even long distance. Personally I think you ought to move out, it makes it far easier to take part in university life- most people go to freshers events with flatmates unless they have friends going to the same uni, a lot of socialising and society meets take place late at night because most people don't have far to travel, unless your studying a course with high contact hours people tend to socialise with those they live with especially at first.
Yeah she does worry about me living with other girls, even though I've told her I would never do anything to her by cheating. I've only got one friend from my old school going to my Uni and I do really want to make friends, I am quiet outgoing but I don't really fancy traipsing back and forth late at night or worrying about how I'm getting home.
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I'm going to move away for uni hopefully. Scared, never lived without my parents and have been spoon fed all my life...

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Original post by Origami Bullets
Hi Sam,

You appear to have misread the title of this thread - it's all about the question of whether you should live at home or in halls, not in private halls vs a shared house :smile:

OB


No, but there are some benefits of living in halls on there too! :smile:
Thought it might help
Original post by Origami Bullets
Should I Live At Home or in Halls?

This sticky replaces the old megathread, which grew from a single question. This is the new place for all your questions and chat on the subject of whether you want to move into halls or stay at home for uni.

Finance
Probably the most commonly cited reason for living at home is finance, and the belief that it will be far cheaper to live at home. However, for many people it is no more expensive to live in halls. Things you should take into account include

Travel costs this is clearly going to vary from person to person, but you should check out www.nationalrail.co.uk for train prices, and if you will have to take a bus include that too. Base your calculations on having to be in uni five days a week, by 9am. Even if you are on a course that only has 8 contact hours a week, you can be in for five days a week. If you plan to drive, be aware that most universities have no free parking unless you have a blue badge, so you will probably have to pay for parking too.

The time taken for you to travel in to / home from uni. Ensure that you calculate the door-to-door time, not just the time spent on the train. Now, what else could you do with that time? If you (say) had a one hour commute each day, that's 10 hours a week. If you were to spend 10 hours a week in a part time job, you would earn at least £61.90 (i.e. most of the cost of a place in halls), and you would have the work experience that graduate employers want to see.

Taxis when you do go on nights out with friends from uni, consider how you will get back home again. You can't count on being able to sleep on someone's floor especially in the early days as you won't know them well enough, and public transport will have stopped running.

Your parents may charge you rent

Student Finance if you live at home, you will receive around £1,100 less per year in the form of maintenance loans

Bursaries many universities include money off accommodation as part of their bursary package.



Social Life
It's not impossible to make friends if you live at home, but you are making your own life harder. There are, for most people, three main sources of friends: course, halls and societies.

If you live at home, then clearly you won't have any friends from halls, and depending on the uni this may mean that Fresher's Week is something of a write off too, because most people will go out with their new flatmates.

Some courses don't socialise with each other mine doesn't, for instance. I'm a perfectly social person with plenty of friends from outside my course, but I don't know anyone from my course who is more than an acquaintance. This tends to be more common for people on larger courses where group work is not a regular feature of the degree.

Societies can be a good way to make friends, but do be aware that some societies are such an intense commitment that living at home just makes participation impractical to the point of being impossible. For instance, in first year I was part of a sports society that involved practice around 3 times a week, more in summer, and often starting at 6am, plus gym sessions, plus weekends away to compete. It was hard enough when I was living in halls, but not one person who was living at home managed to get (and stay) involved. This isn't the case with all societies, as some will only want you to do stuff once a week, but the more intense societies do tend to be the ones where lasting friendships build up.

Independence
For many people, moving away from home is a chance to gain independence from their parents, and to learn life skills. Living in halls means that your mum isn't going to be telling you to tidy your room, but you will have to learn to cook and do your own laundry (which, let's face it, you've got to learn how to do sooner or later). Of course, this can lead to some mishaps (which will invariably later be told as funny stories!), but invariably communal areas will be cleaned by a cleaner, which keeps the worst of it under control. Many people cite this as being one of the more valuable aspects of going to uni.

Academia
Unlike at A Level, even when degree courses at two different universities have identical names and UCAS codes, they will invariably have very different content. This is because what's taught tends to be based around the staff's research and interests, and each university gets to set its own exams. This means that if you move away from home, then you will have far more choice between courses, and will be able to find a course that suits you best.

Depending on your grades and where you live, you may be able to get into a better uni if you move away. For instance, I am from Bristol, but I didn't have the grades for University of Bristol. I did have the grades for UWE, but by choosing to move away I was able to get offers from Russell Group universities including Manchester, Birmingham and Leeds.

When you're actually at uni, being close to campus has the advantage of easy access to facilities such as the library. This means that if you suddenly realise you need a book, it's really easy just to pop over and get the book out rather than having a two hour round trip (which, let's face it, isn't going to happen).

This may be just me, but I actually found it easier to work in halls than I did at home. This was because whilst my parents found it impossible to comprehend that coming in every five minutes to chat / asking me to look after the grandparents / similar wasn't conducive to working, my flatmates (a) had work of their own to do, and (b) understood that if my bedroom door was shut, then I was probably working and so shouldn't be disturbed if possible.

Finally, at my own university (and I have no reason to believe that this isn't something that isn't replicated at other unis), the group that is most likely to drop out of university is those that are living at home, which is food for thought.

With all that said, living at home can be better if . .

You have significant family responsibilities e.g. you are a carer for a family member, or you have a child of your own. In the latter instance, some universities do offer family accommodation, but you may find that the support you get at home (e.g. childcare) is worth staying at home for

You have significant mental / physical health problems that mean you can't live independently, even with support from the university. Universities do have excellent disability support services, and can provide you with adapted accommodation, a non-medical helper, equipment and various other means of support, so I would urge anyone in that situation to talk to their university before making any decisions, but for some people living at home will turn out to be the only realistic option.

If you live next door to the university, then it probably will work out cheaper, but there are still all the other factors (e.g. social life and independence) to consider, though as mentioned above not all unis will give you accommodation if you live nearby.



So are there any benefits to living at home?

Mum will (probably) still do your washing and cooking for you (though some will say that this is a point where you should be gaining independence and learning to do these things for yourself)

If you have many friends who are not going to uni / living at home for uni, then it can be easier to stay friends with them. However, be prepared for people to drift as they get jobs elsewhere, go to uni elsewhere and make new friends. It's unlikely that things will remain how they were at school / college. In addition, it will make it harder to make new friends at uni.

You get to see your family every day (though you may, or may not, see this as a benefit!)

Finance (possibly - see above)



Compromise?
One option can be to move into halls for first year, and then make a decision about second and third year later on. By that point, you know what living away from home is like, so you can make an informed decision, and you will have made a group of friends that you will keep for the rest of your degree.

The only potential snag to this is that some universities won't offer local students a place in halls, though this does vary from uni to uni. If this is the case, then you could

try and find out how likely it is that a place will become available in uni halls in the first few weeks of the year

opt for private halls

find a room in a house share


I know quite a few local students who moved into halls, and only one has chosen to move back home, which indicates to me that they prefer living away from home!

This is intended to be a work in progress, so I'll incorporate your questions / comments / criticisms into this post as time goes on :cool:


1 factual error here.

1) If you live in London the underground tubes will be running 24 hours after 2015 so you will be able to travel home.


Other benefits from living at home if your family is family like:

2) You're not really making your life harder at all, there are plenty of opportunities to talk to people in lunch breaks and societies, Also you don't have to be that committed to socs either.
Furthermore if you end up living in halls you may have to put up with people you don't like for a whole year especially if you can't move and then even if you do, you will have stigma and back talk associated with it.

No rent
No time wasted in cooking, cleaning etc
Support to get through things you can't discuss compared with strangers you have met.

Either way just added that for more balance :smile:
One of my uni options is to go to a university that is close to me, I'd say it's about 30 minutes in the car.

i really want to stay at the uni, the accommodation looks nice and I just feel I'd have a much better experience if I lived away from home.
I get on well with my parents, but it just wouldn't be the same living at home would it?

My mums being abit difficult about it though, she sees it as a waste of money and that I may as well just stay at home and commute every day, I do see her point but I'd just feel like I'm missing out on allot.

What would you guys do?

Thanks:smile:
Move into halls. Have a read of this http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2405506

It's your money, not your mum's, and so as you're now a grown up, you get to spend it on what you like.

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Your mum needs to get used to this. You are an adult and your life and career are going to take you away from her.
Im struggling at uni a lot. I don't know what it is or why but im really really unhappy at uni I just feel sad there all the time, I don't fit in to the uni life. Ive tried and tried to embrace it ive joined societies ive taken up sports ive tried not going home at all ive tried throwing myself into every social situation possible ive tried knuckling down with my work and studying lots but nothing can fix how I feel. I just feel sick and sad while im there yet when im at home im my normal self.

Its got to the point at uni where im not sleeping nor eating as im unhappy and this is affecting my work a lot. My mum suggested commuting which is viable as im only 30 minutes away from uni. Im in a house share in my second year of uni but I still worry if I start commuting and im going to miss out ? I don't know whether to keep trying to stick it there and hope eventually ill enjoy it or admit defeat and commute.
If you're only 30 minutes away I don't see why not, especially if you're feeling the way you are.
Unfortunately the answer is yes. Commuting life vs dorm life is just so so different. I dormed for my first year and half of my second year and then had to commute because of financial issues. I'm still friends with the same people from freshman year and that's all because of dorming. Since commuting, I've found it extremely hard to make any new friendships. I just drive to school, go to class, and drive back home.

Dorming really included me in everything that was happening and now I just feel out of the loop 24/7. It's just so different and if I could dorm again I would do so in a heartbeat.
why can't you fit in?
Im just not happy at uni at all I just feel sad all the time. Ive tried ive done a year in halls and nearly a year in a uni house so its not as if I haven't given it a chance.
I commute and I wouldn't have it any other way.
Have you spoken to your GP? It sounds like you might have a touch of depression - which is far from unheard of in uni students, but it can be treated really effectively.

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Original post by Peachykeen09
Unfortunately the answer is yes. Commuting life vs dorm life is just so so different. I dormed for my first year and half of my second year and then had to commute because of financial issues. I'm still friends with the same people from freshman year and that's all because of dorming. Since commuting, I've found it extremely hard to make any new friendships. I just drive to school, go to class, and drive back home.

Dorming really included me in everything that was happening and now I just feel out of the loop 24/7. It's just so different and if I could dorm again I would do so in a heartbeat.


I disagree with this to an extent. Admittedly I haven't really felt the need to make new friendships in third year, as I have a really good existing friendship group. However, even though I'm commuting I still have an active social life, and go on nights out and stuff. I made a lot of friends on my course in first year, and we're still a really close group. It might help that not all of the group live together though. Living at home also means I see more of my old friends than I did before.

Basically, everyone's social situation is unique, and no-one can say how your social situation will change. A commute of 30 minutes is about do-able, and will save you loads of money.

If you are that unhappy and think moving home will help then it seems like a good idea. You could always try it out for a week or two whilst keeping your student house, to see if it's for you or not.

I do agree that seeing a doctor might also be a good idea.

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