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is it okay to masturbate 2-3 times a day?

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    (Original post by Ashahedow)
    Girls do discharge, depending on whether you carry on during/immediately after orgasm.
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    I **** 50 times a day my penis is a ****ing mushroom tip
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    Does 2-3 REALLY count as addicted?
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    (Original post by Ashahedow)
    Girls do discharge, depending on whether you carry on during/immediately after orgasm.
    Depends what you mean by discharge. Girls discharge liquid when they get turned on, its not dependant on carrying on or anything else.

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    (Original post by Irish-Cailin)
    Depends what you mean by discharge. Girls discharge liquid when they get turned on, its not dependant on carrying on or anything else.

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    I think we're talking about different things. By 'discharge' I assumed the poster meant 'coming'. Girls can come in the same way that guys do, it just takes far more finesse than it would for men. Sounds like I'm pointing out something really obvious but the poster sounded like he didn't have a clue.
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    (Original post by Ashahedow)
    I think we're talking about different things. By 'discharge' I assumed the poster meant 'coming'. Girls can come in the same way that guys do, it just takes far more finesse than it would for men. Sounds like I'm pointing out something really obvious but the poster sounded like he didn't have a clue.
    Right yeah okay two different things, that's why I said it depends what you mean by discharge

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    (Original post by danny111)
    That's a load of bull, Viagra was discovered by accident, it was given as medication and male patients reported erection as a side effect.
    Keep believing that when you become incontinent and bald with a weak erection.

    Gosh some people just cannot break their programming.
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    (Original post by Tye Singer)
    Just shut up.

    Why the hostility, having trouble getting it up?
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    (Original post by Ashahedow)
    I think we're talking about different things. By 'discharge' I assumed the poster meant 'coming'. Girls can come in the same way that guys do, it just takes far more finesse than it would for men. Sounds like I'm pointing out something really obvious but the poster sounded like he didn't have a clue.
    By "coming" did you meant orgasm ? Cos I did meant discharge as some form of liquid coming out.
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    This sounds like a bit much really, I prefer to leave it a few days and have a bit of a binge ^_^ I don't think that desensitises it as much as doing it 2-3 times every day without fail, but you might need to alter this if you're in a relationship.
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    (Original post by zaback21)
    By "coming" did you meant orgasm ? Cos I did meant discharge as some form of liquid coming out.
    Coming as in a substantial amount of liquid being released as a result of continuous stimulation. Like with a penis. Not the liquid that comes about after arousal and lubricates the vagina.
    That was cringy to write.
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    (Original post by Ashahedow)
    Coming as in a substantial amount of liquid being released as a result of continuous stimulation. Like with a penis. Not the liquid that comes about after arousal and lubricates the vagina.
    That was cringy to write.
    Hence the reason I used the word discharge which ultimately caused confusion.
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    (Original post by doggyfizzel)
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    1) My point being the idea of a reward system alone does not constitute addiction, that constitutes liking something. People doing things they like over and over, whether that be rollercoasters or food. The fact you can link a chemical release to that does not mean they are addicted, in the sense we define addiction to drugs. At the point you talk about overconsumption, in a drug term this is where people do face withdrawal and do start to have the negative symptoms associated with drug addiction. As with the definition I gave, not my own, the presence of negative effects is a key part of an addiction. Otherwise what constitutes overconsuption? We eat 3 or more times a day is this overconsumption? Its certainly not natural, only since the advent of mass farming have we had such availability. My question is the repeated use of something does not constitute addiction, you are dropping an arbitrary marker at a number which constitutes addiction then going on to talk about chemical pathways.

    I don't have that idea, my idea the simple categorisation of people doing things that release dopamine constitutes addiction is not the case. You cannot say, this releases dopamine you do it often, therefore you are addicted to that one thing anymore than people are addicted be being happy. People start out doing meth or coke because it makes them happy, many people can do these things regularly for many year without becoming addicts. The point at which meth users become meth addicts is clear. By what definition are you defining usage from addiction in porn? This links to the next section.

    The point being people can gamble, watch porn and they don't feel a withdrawl, you can go to Vegas once and never gamble again. When you feel compelled to visit a Casino again and again, gambling more and more that is a case where enjoyment has transitioned to addiction. Food is a natural urge the same with sex, the simple existence of a urge is not the same as a chemical withdrawal, so you are going to need a deeper reasoning of addiction, either a negative or a chemical pathway being established more so than is naturally occurrent.

    I didn't say it couldn't be, my point was people eat popcorn because they like it. That isn't the same as an addiction. The simple fact someone likes something and knows they like it doesn't mean they are addicted, it just means they had something before, dopamine was released, and they enjoyed it. That rinse and repeat process is not the addiction within itself. The addiction comes in the uncontrollable urges usually to the detriment of someone life they are aware of this but cannot stop, gambling their money way, eating themselves obese, throwing their lives to crack. The classification of addiction to porn is...? I suggested when people are letting it interrupt their lives or affect their relationships.

    The divorce rate has risen with the financial crisis. The divorce rate now in the laptop fibre optic broadband age are now lower than they were in 1990 when porn became widespread, as a general trend its fallen across the US, the biggest porn market, over the years. My point being, if people were linking the degradation of women, violence in sex lives and affecting their relationship, if the average person were addicted to this wave of pornography you would expect to see an effect in their lives. In the same way a meth addict is more likely to be unemployed and homeless in 10 years, few meth addicts still have a normal life 10 years down the line. The negative effects associated with addiction, an uncontrolled urge, should be present in people's social lives, unless of course porn is distinct from the rest of your life, which most people suggest it isn't.

    This is what I was saying, those terms despite now over a decade of porn use, are still the most popular. If you saw this effect of moving up to the hard stuff to cope with some form of addiction you would see people who started on straight porn now watching harder stuff. You have 20 years of these people building up why aren't those terms more popular? Its a gateway theory, there should be people in their millions addicted and through gate, searching on google for the hard stuff not milf and teen everyday, that doesn't happen.

    Okay, well I don't think its required more that its common, as the negative aspect associated with addiction is already linked.
    The chemical release in itself does not cause addiction but add in chronic overconsumption and it does. This is a well documented effect now.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18293355
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16957076
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2970635/
    The discovery of deltaFosB in mediating compulsion in substance and behaviour addictions as well as controlling natural needs like food and sex shows that any behaviour or substance can be addictive. Obviously some are more addictive than others and some substances have a physical dependency/tolerance aspect as well. There is no point in us continuing this point until you read up on it. Overconsumption is directly shown by the overexpression of deltaFosB. That is the entire point of this discovery. But beyond that, no-one knows much about it yet.

    I never said just using it a lot, eating a lot of popcorn etc means you're addicted. But if you chronically overconsume it you develop addiction related brain changes. What might start out as pleasurable may turn into an addiction though popcorn isn't usually enough to do the trick... (no variety for one). Even on meth these uncontrollable urges don't happen from day 1, they develop over time with chronic overconsumption. This is pretty much what you said so I'm not sure how you made the point that natural urges can't be addictive.

    Of course you get withdrawals if you don't eat food and are not addicted. You get cranky, feel light-headed and if you don't do it for days, you die. In terms of physical dependence, every substance has it's own extension of withdrawals from what the reward system provides. I'm arguing a point that has already been accepted by the scientific community here.

    What arbitrary number? Where have I given numbers? I said that imo 2-3 times a day is too much and that we don't know anything because current research is insufficient.

    There is no classification of addiction to porn because it's a relatively new phenomenon which no-one wants to study properly because of the politics around it, but as a guess I would say deltaFosB, D2 receptor levels, genre escalation and erection quality outside of porn. It's naive to think it's not possible to be an addict whilst keeping a relatively normal life outside...

    You have no idea if average Joe has been affected by porn. Our generation has grown up with it. To paraphrase, it's like asking a fish what it thinks of life on the surface.

    Less than 20% hard drug users are addicted so how can you expect porn addiction, a behavioural addiction, to be higher? You don't know there aren't millions addicted since you take the incorrect psychological perspective that an addiction requires negative outward symptoms to be an addiction. deltaFosB disproves that.
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    (Original post by GnomeMage)
    lubricants mate
    I was a stupid 13 year old. 7 goes in a day = silly, silly idea.
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    (Original post by zaback21)
    Hence the reason I used the word discharge which ultimately caused confusion.
    You wrote 'Is there any discharge when its orgasm ? Cos usually girls don't.' to which I answered yes and no, which is correct. I don't see where the confusion lies.

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