Has Uri Geller been confirmed psychic?

There is no such thing as being Psychic.

I knew you'd say that.

I see what you did there.

Really? Are you clairvoyant?

As of yet, not one single person has stepped up to claim the $1 million prize put up as proof of psychic powers. No one has ever predicted the lottery numbers and been right about it (beyond random chance).

You are unable to prove that there isn't a teapot somewhere in space, orbiting the Earth (look it up) or even fairies hiding at the bottom of the garden, but just because someone posits the idea, doesn't mean that it is likely or even possible, and all available evidence indicates a total absence of these things.The same applies to psychic powers. Doesn't stop people trying to fake it to con gullible people out of their cash though.

And you are making the mistake of thinking that there is, somewhere in the world, likely to be a genuine psychic. All such people must be aware of the numerous prizes of $1 million available if they subject their supposed powers successfully to scientific scrutiny. These prizes have been available for a very long time (and it is unlikely in the extreme that a genuine psychic could fail to be aware of them) yet none have succeeded; there is a good reason for this.

As I've just said, this assumes that all people are only interested in both publicity and money. Wouldn't most rational people with these powers keep it to themselves?

Wouldn't most rational people with these powers keep it to themselves?

Now physics is pushing the bounds of what was commonly accepted, are we being forced to accept that some elements of the paranormal have some basis in fact?

Sounds like BS. I have never taken Uri Geller seriously.

But having "psychic power" doesn't mean you can win the lottery. You're mixing up clairvoyance/extra sensory perception (esp), and lumping it all under "psychic power". Who's to say some of those powers exist in small amounts and some of those don't?

Most people who claim to have ESP say they can only perceive the present, not the future. You're using quite an arbitary test which doesn't make sense to determine whether something is possible.

How do you know a clairvoyant hasn't already used their powers to win the lottery? Would they brag about it? Maybe they'd use their powers for other things. Is everyone so one dimensional they'd only care about money? You're test assumes that all people are only interested in both publicity and money. Maybe some people are a little bit more enlightened. Your 'test' doesn't make sense.

Why would a real psychic purposefully go for the publicity of winning 1 million pounds to have CIA and Mossad breathing down their necks for the rest of their lives. They'd surely find other more discreet ways to benefit from their powers.

What is rational about that?
"I know, I've got this awesome power that nobody else has, and I'm going to keep it a secret from anybody so that even the greatest minds of the world may never unlock it! Mwuhaha!"
If I was psychic, I'd sure take up that $1,000,000 prize, even if just to help scientists understand an area that nobody understands (if it were actually really, that is).

Now you find yourself in a bit of a contradictory bind. It certainly appears that many people do claim to have such powers, though none have been able to prove it. Yet you are now claiming that such people wouldn't claim to have powers.

It would seem perverse to claim that all the many people falsely claiming to possess such powers are evidence that there exist people who do have the powers but haven't stated that they do.

The obvious explanation is that such people don't exist.

By the way, it is a sure sign you have lost the argument and are experiencing a shortage of evidence to back up your views when you resort to negging someone who has merely joined in the thread you started and presented a reasonable argument against you.

Who's to say there aren't fairies at the bottom of my garden?

Of course they do. Otherwise they'd have to predict the future accurately and be shown up for the frauds they really are.

If there is one thing we know about people who claim to be clairvoyants is they aren't shy about telling people they are clairvoyants. Not one single person has proven the existence of psychic powers.

How do you know there isn't a teapot orbiting in space. Many have hypothesised its existence, but none have proven it.

Same with God, the FSM, the Force, etc.

Erm, you are the one contradicting yourself talking about supposedly 'real' psychics' working for the CIA and Mossad. That's not being very secretive about their powers, is it? If your argument is to make sense, why would they 'purposefully' claim pyschic powers in order to work for the CIA instead of practicing in secret?

Examples of such physics??

Also I didn't neg anyone? Are you now claiming to be psychic?

We can agree then, what I'm saying doesn't prove it. But what you're saying doesn't rule it out.

There's a difference between saying that you can't prove it and then that they are "frauds".

And the CIA and Mossad are secretive by nature, surely the only line of a work a psychic could do without bringing public attention to their abilities?