Socialists/Labour voters sending their children to fee-paying schools

I think "simply stop doing it" is a bit of a simple solution to the problem of bullying and crime in school I'm just saying there are schools in which these are huge, terrible problems that aren't going away. Any decent parent would send their child somewhere else if they could, it's just that not all can , and of course a few don't give a ****.

Well yes I think you have a much better point if there are good/decent state schools available in the area - if you truly support state-run egalitarian education, there's not much reason to be snobby about sending your child to a perfectly good state school.

Yes I meant more generally - but of course it is a spectrum, the more you think your child needs it, the more you will do.

To be fair - sending your child to private school is hypocritical if you think private schools should be phased out. But it isn't hypocritical if you merely think state school education should be improved so that all parents have the option of a decent school for their child.

I mean - I think children shouldn't live in poverty in the UK. Does that make me a hypocrite if I use my salary to ensure my children don't live in poverty? I don't think so - that would just be doing the best for my children as an individual - and if I were a policymaker/professional I would also try to do my best for children who were not my own, on the general principle that children should not live in poverty.

It is not hypocritical. A left-wing person will have no faith in our right-wing government. They will be the first to suppose, with much regret, that state schools are not good enough.

Regardless it would be the wrong time to bring those changes in as the government has a deficit to pay back.

Regardless, you're only saying that now you have been enlightened - otherwise you wouldn't have posted about MPs demanding anything.

I knew that they were recommended by an independent body, but I bet at least some of those MPs wouldn't have said no.

No, I am sorry I don't agree, they are campaigning for those who don't have the luxury of a better education due to financial barriers. These politicians don't suffer from the financial barriers, therefore are able to use the service.

I don't even think there are any private schools here in Northern Ireland, most just use the grammar school method, which I believe to be a more fair approach, socially.
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If you did, then its pretty silly to say that MPs were demanding a pay rise, don't you think?

I'm certain at least some of those MPs wouldn't have said no, but that doesn't equate in the slightest to 'MPs demanding a pay rise'

Being a leftist does not make you averse to the knowledge that private education is largely more successful, it just means you believe in the sanctity and funding of state institutions for the benefit of all society. I commend people who have enough money not to give a personal **** about 'the common folk' but do so anyway. They don't need to send their children to a state school in order to 'prove a point' about their political platitudes.

This is quite a convincing post, but in terms of schooling, I don't understand why they'd support an institution they claim is 'unfair' or elitist. Labour claims to support the 'common folk' (Balls' 'hard working families up and down the country' ), though I don't know if I can take them or their opinions seriously if their children aren't educated in state schools with those families. Not to mention their actual policies don't do so much to favour the ordinary person. State schools aren't that bad, some can be on the same level as private schools.

What issues would a 'right wing government' have contributed towards the poor standard of state schools?