The German Football Thread

Dude can you stop dissing where I am from! It's not even true, Hamburg is an amazing city!

hey dont get me wrong, many a sailor had a good night in Hamburg!

Not even dissing North Germany, culturally a state including Holland and Germany North of Bremen would make alot more sense than one with Bavaria!

Anyway, if there is one group both Germans and Dutch people can enjoy denouncing it must be Friesians !

I think it's the east Frisians haha

And Alonso, of course he's a short-term solution to cover up for the injuries, hence the 2-year deal and hence why I said signing Khedira would only make sense this & not next season. It does seem strange though that Bayern are throwing their sacred wage pyramid over board just to have a bit of cover for the time Schweini and Thiago aren't 100%, something which they were not willing to do for any player bar Götze before and contradicts everything "Hoeneß". Not to mention that Xabi is too static for Bayern's style of play, even as a CB, and doesn't fit their transitioning play at all (& the fact that Pep never got along with him). Iturraspe would have been expensive fee-wise, but the overall money invested wouldn't probably be a lot higher considering how much they'd save in wages. They'd probably need to invest good money relatively soon anyway to deal with Lahm and Schweini ageing. Playing time wouldn't be much of an issue either, Iturraspe said several times he'd want to leave and didn't seem put off by the Bayern interest either. The Xabi deal seems a little senseless & un-Bayern regardless of him though.

Alonso got 4.5M euros in 2012 and is supposedly on 6M euros at Bayern. Tbh for the player profile and since Lahm and Schweiny are getting 10M it's not an overly big salary. Although just keeping Kroos makes more sense. It's going to be a tough integration period for Hojberg et al so will require a midfielder being bought to bridge that gap. You'd think that Kroos being in the 23-27 age range would mean that there is a seamless transition, and Kroos will have his best years when the likes of Schweinsteigger are past it.

Yeah I don't see Alonso working out for some reason, if they go 4-1-4-1 then possibly, he can just fill in Busquetts role at Barca. If he plays at CB then he'd need protection.

Alonso got 4.5M euros in 2012 and is supposedly on 6M euros at Bayern. Tbh for the player profile and since Lahm and Schweiny are getting 10M it's not an overly big salary. Although just keeping Kroos makes more sense. It's going to be a tough integration period for Hojberg et al so will require a midfielder being bought to bridge that gap. You'd think that Kroos being in the 23-27 age range would mean that there is a seamless transition, and Kroos will have his best years when the likes of Schweinsteigger are past it.

Yeah I don't see Alonso working out for some reason, if they go 4-1-4-1 then possibly, he can just fill in Busquetts role at Barca. If he plays at CB then he'd need protection.

Bayern's wages are always guesswork/Bild speculation but Alonso's is reported as between 7.5M (Bild, Focus) and 10M (other German papers, Marca). May not be outrageously much for a player of his name and CV, but it is for a substitute who won't get a lot of game time once everyone's fit, especially compared with Bayern's overall wage structure & the wages of some of the other key players. To go OTT like that is untypical of Bayern and rather two-faced considering what happened to Kroos.

Wage is only a minor argument though. The point is that the move harms Real more than it strengthens Bayern, so Bayern being Bayern you can wonder about the motivation behind it. I'm not denying that it makes sense for them to get a player in in light of their injuries (...in fact I had originally made that point, when arguing that Khedira to Bayern only made sense this year, not next year), but the 'efforts' (i.e. tinker with their sacred philosophy) to sign a player who's past it, doesn't fit the style ideally and isn't even best-suited to the required role, make you think there could actually be more to the transfer than just wanting to get cover for Javi.

With a midfield line of 4 of Alaba, Lahm, Schweinsteiger, Rode, Thiago and Højbjerg in front of him and Badstuber & Boateng flanking him, he probably has decent enough cover to play as CB. Playing as the mid CB in a 3-man backline isn't even too different, responsibilities-wise, from the static DM role he had at Madrid recently, so he should be ok as that.

That's where Pep played him today btw, and it worked out ok, he was one of Bayern's better players. Not a lot of other positives to take from the Bayern performance today though.

Anyway, good start to the season so far. HSV losing to Paderborn and Vfb to Köln

I think Zürich had a few too many last night.


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Naturally

But 1860 at the Grunwalder is the dream, proper working class Munich. **** the Bayern day trippers from Bamberg, Tegernsee and Austria, afterwards drinking in hofbrauhaus. 1860 at the Allianz needs to end,

''Nur nach Hause wollen wir!''





again in the Grunwalder





1860 at the Grunwalder are the anti-Bayern, at the Allianz a tenant.

But this was a decent Allianz moment