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How practical is a Physics degree?

Hi everyone,

I'm applying for uni this year for 2014 entry, I've been juggling in my head between a Physics degree and an Engineering degree. My passion is Physics and I would love to study it but I've been told it's not a very practical degree and I would be wasting my time, for that reason I've been thinking about an Engineering degree. What do you guys think?

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Reply 1
Define "practical"
If you do a physics degree you will not be as good at designing and building things as an engineering graduate, but that's not to say you will not have practical skills. You have to do at least some lab work to get a physics degree accredited by the IOP, but many universities allow you the 'specialise' in experimental physics (which is what I did), which gives you a whole ton of skills useful for solving real world problems, performing experiments and learning how to use unfamiliar equipment.
Whoever told you studying physics is a waste of time probably doesn't know what they're talking about.

I've heard that a lot of employers are very keen to hire physics graduates on the basis that it's easier to teach physics graduates X rather than teach X graduates physics. (X being whatever the employer deals with).
I know that it's very possible to do an engineering masters after a physics degree, I know two people doing exactly this. But I can't imagine going the other way would be so easy.
Reply 2
Sorry I should've defined myself better, I meant to say that people tell me Physics graduates aren't very employable. What are you doing now if you don't mind me asking?
Reply 3
Original post by sjrahman
Sorry I should've defined myself better, I meant to say that people tell me Physics graduates aren't very employable. What are you doing now if you don't mind me asking?


Are you saying you're worried about job prospects rather than practicals? Very badly worded op then. Idk much about job prospects for a physics degree, but a man who has a PhD in chemistry was telling me how physics grads were being hired for some sort of accounting where the maths involved was so complex that they were better suited than those with accounting degrees. Don't know how accuarate that was
Edit: it was actuary accounting

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Reply 4
Original post by sjrahman
Sorry I should've defined myself better, I meant to say that people tell me Physics graduates aren't very employable. What are you doing now if you don't mind me asking?


People tell you wrong. Physics graduates are very employable. If you want to go down the engineering route, do an engineering degree. Since you say your passion is physics, then I doubt that's the case. An engineering degree may well leave you with better prospects of getting into engineering (or something closely related to that field), but a degree in physics will (IMO) give you more flexibility. Like Manitude suggests, there's nothing to stop you from choosing physics now and specialising later.
Reply 5
Original post by NJam
People tell you wrong. Physics graduates are very employable. If you want to go down the engineering route, do an engineering degree. Since you say your passion is physics, then I doubt that's the case. An engineering degree may well leave you with better prospects of getting into engineering (or something closely related to that field), but a degree in physics will (IMO) give you more flexibility. Like Manitude suggests, there's nothing to stop you from choosing physics now and specialising later.


Can you give examples of the jobs a physics grad would go into, not saying youre wrong btw, just wondering

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Original post by ElChapo
Can you give examples of the jobs a physics grad would go into, not saying youre wrong btw, just wondering

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A plurality go into finance, others into areas like IT, retail and scientific R&D.

http://www.prospects.ac.uk/options_physics.htm
After medicine and law, physics graduates have the highest salaries of any. Whoever told you they were not employable was talking out of their *!%£!
Reply 8
Original post by Schadenfreude65
After medicine and law, physics graduates have the highest salaries of any. Whoever told you they were not employable was talking out of their *!%£!


I'm sorry but that's wrong

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Reply 9
Who negged me for saying the facts lol? If we go by average starting salaries you'll actually find that physics grads make more than law grads, and there are other degrees that follow behind medicine.
Source: http://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/careers/what-do-graduates-do/what-do-graduates-earn/
Reply 10
Choose maths and physics joint degree.
Reply 11
Alright everyone - i was wondering whether you could ever do astrphysics/astrophotography as a hobby? i.e are there volunteer astrophysics projects in america etc. ?????


(for those with an Astro BSc)
Reply 12
Original post by Manitude
Define "practical"
If you do a physics degree you will not be as good at designing and building things as an engineering graduate, but that's not to say you will not have practical skills. You have to do at least some lab work to get a physics degree accredited by the IOP, but many universities allow you the 'specialise' in experimental physics (which is what I did), which gives you a whole ton of skills useful for solving real world problems, performing experiments and learning how to use unfamiliar equipment.
Whoever told you studying physics is a waste of time probably doesn't know what they're talking about.

I've heard that a lot of employers are very keen to hire physics graduates on the basis that it's easier to teach physics graduates X rather than teach X graduates physics. (X being whatever the employer deals with).
I know that it's very possible to do an engineering masters after a physics degree, I know two people doing exactly this. But I can't imagine going the other way would be so easy.


how does that work?

can you give some examples
Reply 13
Original post by sjrahman
Sorry I should've defined myself better, I meant to say that people tell me Physics graduates aren't very employable. What are you doing now if you don't mind me asking?


They are very employable, but my hunch is that if you want to have a career thats actually related to physics, then an engineering degree is better suited. Anyone agree/disagree?
Reply 14
Original post by NJam
People tell you wrong. Physics graduates are very employable. If you want to go down the engineering route, do an engineering degree. Since you say your passion is physics, then I doubt that's the case. An engineering degree may well leave you with better prospects of getting into engineering (or something closely related to that field), but a degree in physics will (IMO) give you more flexibility. Like Manitude suggests, there's nothing to stop you from choosing physics now and specialising later.


that sounds very vague, what exactly do you mean by this? :s-smilie:
Reply 15
Original post by Jack93o
They are very employable, but my hunch is that if you want to have a career thats actually related to physics, then an engineering degree is better suited. Anyone agree/disagree?


That makes no sense. If you want a career related to physics, do a physics degree.

Original post by Jack93o
that sounds very vague, what exactly do you mean by this? :s-smilie:


By doing physics you can choose later which area of the subject you would like to specialise in. By doing engineering you're already narrowing down your options. I think a physics degree keeps more doors open than an engineering degree.
Reply 16
Original post by Jack93o
how does that work?

can you give some examples


I know two people in my year who did physics and graduated this year, and they're both doing the same postgraduate mechanical engineering course. The standard entry requirement for the degree was 2:1, but they were both offered 2:2, presumably because they did physics rather than engineering as an undergraduate.
Reply 17
Original post by Jack93o
that sounds very vague, what exactly do you mean by this? :s-smilie:

I believe he means a physics degree will close fewer doors than pretty much any other degree - you can do (almost) whatever you want after it.
Reply 18
Original post by NJam
That makes no sense. If you want a career related to physics, do a physics degree.

By doing physics you can choose later which area of the subject you would like to specialise in. By doing engineering you're already narrowing down your options. I think a physics degree keeps more doors open than an engineering degree

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an engineering job is related to physics, since its based on physics knowledge, its not something like finance or retail for example which has no relation whatsoever with physics

I'm not 100% sure on this, but it does seems to me as though theres more jobs out there for engineering which require an MEng degree in engineering, than jobs which requires a physics degree specifically - I can't think of that many jobs here apart from research and teaching, and even then you could say these jobs exist in engineering as well.
Reply 19
Original post by Jack93o
an engineering job is related to physics, since its based on physics knowledge, its not something like finance or retail for example which has no relation whatsoever with physics

I'm not 100% sure on this, but it does seems to me as though theres more jobs out there for engineering which require an MEng degree in engineering, than jobs which requires a physics degree specifically - I can't think of that many jobs here apart from research and teaching, and even then you could say these jobs exist in engineering as well.


I didn't say it wasn't - but what's the point doing an engineering degree if you want to do something related to physics?

If you want to be an engineer, do an engineering degree. If you want to be a physicist, do a physics degree. If you can't decide, I think you'd be better off doing physics since it keeps more doors open.

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