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Hypocritical attitude of males!!!! (some)((pubic hair))

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Reply 20
Original post by Nyheter
That's a bit silly. "Boobs" on a man aren't as natural as hair on women. The most part of women have hair(armpits, pubic, on legs, arms) but not all men have "man boobs".

Your post doesn't make any sense.


What was your point then? I interpreted it as "Men shouldn't think things are unattractive on women if they think the same thing is attractive on men else they're a hypocrite.", and then put to you a strong (because you haven't claimed a man saying boobs on a woman is attractive yet not on a man is hypocritical) counterexample.
Reply 21
Original post by Hopple
How is it at all hypocritical? Surely it's obvious that each gender finds different thing attractive about the other. For example, boobs are attractive on a woman, but not on a man. Would you say it's hypocritical if the conversation went like this (but about what was attractive rather than unattractive):

Girl posts: Man boobs
Male posts: You don't want a man, you want a slob.

Assuming the male likes boobs on women, why is that hypocritical?

Except boobs naturally occur on a woman. They don't naturally occur on men. Body hair naturally occurs on both men and women.

Anyway, I see what you're trying to say but I don't agree.
Why is it okay for a man to state they don't like body hair, yet when a woman says the same thing, the man says thats wrong? That's what hypocritical.
Reply 22
Original post by mxliss
Except boobs naturally occur on a woman. They don't naturally occur on men. Body hair naturally occurs on both men and women.

Anyway, I see what you're trying to say but I don't agree.
Why is it okay for a man to state they don't like body hair, yet when a woman says the same thing, the man says thats wrong? That's what hypocritical.


Man boobs do appear naturally on men. Look around you, there are loads of guys out there with them who haven't had surgery. But this "It's natural so you have to find it attractive" argument is beside the point.

If you made a list of what was attractive in men and what was attractive in women, would you be a hypocrite when you came up with different attributes for each gender?
Original post by Philbert
The ****?


I think Shame-us is attempting a new record for how quickly someone can get to 12 red gems :facepalm:...some of the other posts are even worse ( my personal favourite http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2466817 )
Reply 24
Original post by bellatrixb
I think Shame-us is attempting a new record for how quickly someone can get to 12 red gems :facepalm:...some of the other posts are even worse ( my personal favourite http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2466817 )


Ah yes, I think you're right. I've seen a fair few of "her" posts and they appear to be a poor attempt at trolling. Quite amusing, though.
Original post by Hopple
How is it at all hypocritical? Surely it's obvious that each gender finds different thing attractive about the other. For example, boobs are attractive on a woman, but not on a man. Would you say it's hypocritical if the conversation went like this (but about what was attractive rather than unattractive):

Girl posts: Man boobs
Male posts: You don't want a man, you want a slob.

Assuming the male likes boobs on women, why is that hypocritical?


Every woman has hair (unless she has a medical issue) whereas only overweight men have breasts (unless they are trans or something). The point is that men were being critical towards women for them finding body hair on men unattractive, while at the same time finding body hair on women unattractive themselves. Obviously it's not hypocritical for men who prefer hairy women/aren't as fussed, but it IS hypocritical for men to criticse women for not liking body hair on the opposite sex when they themselves don't like it.
I think also that when shaved a man might feel emasculated, whereas a woman wouldn't feel unfeminine shaving.
Original post by Hopple
Man boobs do appear naturally on men. Look around you, there are loads of guys out there with them who haven't had surgery. But this "It's natural so you have to find it attractive" argument is beside the point.

If you made a list of what was attractive in men and what was attractive in women, would you be a hypocrite when you came up with different attributes for each gender?


Nobody is saying you HAVE to find it attractive, they're just saying it's something the vast, vast majority of people of sexes naturally have and it's not fair to criticise one sex for not finding said shared feature attractive. It's more like men saying they are attracted to blonde haired women and then criticising women for saying they are attracted to blond haired men. Even if you don't think it's hypocritical, it's a really crappy thing to say - I don't think men would be too happy if I started calling them pedos or something for finding hairless vulvas/labia attractive while at the same time I was demanding my boyfriend be hairless down there (and everywhere perhaps). The fact is nobody should dictate what features someone is allowed to find attractive in the opposite sex.
Reply 28
There is 1 slight difference: There is an expectation for girls to be shaved, so if they do it, no one complains. For men, its like the world is split in 3 parts, No shaving at all, partially (armpits/pubic), or full hair removal and so making a decision is hard... The views in different countries within Europe vary so much as well.
women who are hairy disgust me, please don't neg me for stating my opinion.
Original post by Nyheter
This is from another thread:
"Girls - what do you find physically UNATTRACTIVE in a guy?"

Girl posts: Facial hair chest hair pubic hair


Male posts: You don't want a man, you want a boy.

The post received a lot of thumbs up.

But isn't it men who like no or very little pubic hair on women?
What do male and females of this board think? Is this hypocritical?



I don't know ANY girls who like guys to shave their pubic hair ...
I think you've missed the point of what I was saying...it would be unfair of women to prefer hairless men while looking down on men who prefer hairless women and the same vice versa. I don't care if an individual man prefers hairlessness on women as long as he wouldn't criticse/look down on me for prefering hairlessness on men as opposed to hairiness. Do you understand what I'm saying?
Reply 32
Original post by vaguity
Every woman has hair (unless she has a medical issue) whereas only overweight men have breasts (unless they are trans or something). The point is that men were being critical towards women for them finding body hair on men unattractive, while at the same time finding body hair on women unattractive themselves. Obviously it's not hypocritical for men who prefer hairy women/aren't as fussed, but it IS hypocritical for men to criticse women for not liking body hair on the opposite sex when they themselves don't like it.



Original post by vaguity
Nobody is saying you HAVE to find it attractive, they're just saying it's something the vast, vast majority of people of sexes naturally have and it's not fair to criticise one sex for not finding said shared feature attractive. It's more like men saying they are attracted to blonde haired women and then criticising women for saying they are attracted to blond haired men. Even if you don't think it's hypocritical, it's a really crappy thing to say - I don't think men would be too happy if I started calling them pedos or something for finding hairless vulvas/labia attractive while at the same time I was demanding my boyfriend be hairless down there (and everywhere perhaps). The fact is nobody should dictate what features someone is allowed to find attractive in the opposite sex.


Can someone not point out that such features are attractive for the different groups of men/women/boys/girls? I wouldn't be a hypocrite to say that being 'bouncy' (talkative, energetic and so on) would be attractive for a girl but would be at least slightly weird for a woman. I'm no expert on what exactly goes with what, but ask a fashion expert and they'll give you a whole reel of differences in what men, women, boys and girls can wear and appear attractive.

With the example of hair, it's generally accepted that it's a no-no for females and males going for a boyish look, and a yes for grown men. Your paedophile argument might hold water if the question weren't directed at the generally young group of users of this site, but I don't think you can really accuse the male poster the OP refers to of accusing the female poster of being a paedophile.
Reply 33
Original post by Hopple
Man boobs do appear naturally on men. Look around you, there are loads of guys out there with them who haven't had surgery. But this "It's natural so you have to find it attractive" argument is beside the point.

If you made a list of what was attractive in men and what was attractive in women, would you be a hypocrite when you came up with different attributes for each gender?

I knew you'd say something like that. I have to remember to be ridiculously specific on TSR. Large breasts do not occur naturally in men. Women have bigger breasts than men, naturally.
When did I say you had to like it because it's natural? :confused:
You've entirely misunderstood. I'm not saying that you have to find it attractive. I'm stating that its hypocritical to say that a 'men not liking body hair is okay but women not liking body hair isn't'.

You're missing the point. I'm saying that it's hypocritical for a man that dislikes body hair to protest when a woman say they aren't attracted to body hair. I don't understand how preferences of different genders is relevant here...
Original post by Hopple
Can someone not point out that such features are attractive for the different groups of men/women/boys/girls? I wouldn't be a hypocrite to say that being 'bouncy' (talkative, energetic and so on) would be attractive for a girl but would be at least slightly weird for a woman. I'm no expert on what exactly goes with what, but ask a fashion expert and they'll give you a whole reel of differences in what men, women, boys and girls can wear and appear attractive.

With the example of hair, it's generally accepted that it's a no-no for females and males going for a boyish look, and a yes for grown men. Your paedophile argument might hold water if the question weren't directed at the generally young group of users of this site, but I don't think you can really accuse the male poster the OP refers to of accusing the female poster of being a paedophile.


Please point out where I accused that male poster of calling others paedophiles? Mainly because I wasn't and that thought never actually crossed my mind until you mentioned it just then. Although because I'm an adult so someone telling me that because I don't like body hair on men I prefer 'boys' could actually be taken as that, now you've mentioned it. It's not an 'argument' towards the members of this site lol

Original post by Hopple
I'm no expert on what exactly goes with what, but ask a fashion expert and they'll give you a whole reel of differences in what men, women, boys and girls can wear and appear attractive.
With the example of hair, it's generally accepted that it's a no-no for females and males going for a boyish look, and a yes for grown men.


Yes, and that's bull**** from society imo, but I don't see how that is relevant - I was under the impression we weren't debating what is 'socially acceptable' but judging others on their individual preferences. Like I really don't care what a fashion expert says because I'm not gonna suddenly find armpit hair attractive on men because it's the social norm/makes men appear attractive and it's unfair of men to judge me for not liking body hair on men. To me it's like men criticising women for swearing (because it's not 'lady like') and then swearing themselves.


I get the feeling we're not on the same wavelength here, we seem to be talking about slightly different issues...
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Reply 35
Original post by mxliss
I knew you'd say something like that. I have to remember to be ridiculously specific on TSR. Large breasts do not occur naturally in men. Women have bigger breasts than men, naturally.
When did I say you had to like it because it's natural? :confused:
You've entirely misunderstood. I'm not saying that you have to find it attractive. I'm stating that its hypocritical to say that a 'men not liking body hair is okay but women not liking body hair isn't'.

You're missing the point. I'm saying that it's hypocritical for a man that dislikes body hair to protest when a woman say they aren't attracted to body hair. I don't understand how preferences of different genders is relevant here...

You and others keep using the word 'natural' as if it's some sort of argument. Even here, you persist in saying women have naturally larger boobs. But so what? You have to make the link from 'natural' to 'attractive', not assume it's there without any reasoning. There are many natural things about people which wouldn't be considered attractive, or may even be considered unattractive.

Original post by vaguity
Please point out where I accused that male poster of calling others paedophiles? Mainly because I wasn't and that thought never actually crossed my mind until you mentioned it just then. Although because I'm an adult so someone telling me that because I don't like body hair on men I prefer 'boys' could actually be taken as that, now you've mentioned it. It's not an 'argument' towards the members of this site lol
Then what were you trying to say with this: " I don't think men would be too happy if I started calling them pedos or something for finding hairless vulvas/labia attractive"?


Yes, and that's bull**** from society imo, but I was under the impression we weren't debating what is 'socially acceptable' but judging others on their individual preferences. Like I really don't care what a fashion expert says because I'm not gonna suddenly find armpit hair attractive on men because it's the social norm/makes men appear attractive and it's unfair of men to judge me for not liking body hair on men.
Hairless is a boyish look. You can argue it's unpleasant to criticise someone for liking it, but it's not hypocritical. What would be hypocritical is "I'm allowed to criticise you but you can't criticise me", but from the OP (I haven't looked through the thread that it's supposedly from), that isn't the case.

(Although while we are on the point, fair enough men and women have both been socialised into thinking body hair on women (but not on men) is 'gross' and 'disgusting' and 'unhygienic'(although that doesn't even make sense) but I still think it's hypocriticical to judge someone for liking a feature you yourself find attractive. Like it works both ways for me - if a man likes hairy women, it'd be hypocritical for me to judge him for that while finding hairy men attractive. To be it's like men criticising women for swearing (because it's not 'lady like') and then swearing themselves. I dunno, perhaps you can argue it's not hypocrisy and it would only be hypocritical if it applied to the same sex (e.g men saying women should find hairy men attractive and then themselves wanting men to be hairless) but you can't really deny it's bull**** double standards or something)

I get the feeling we're not on the same wavelength here, we seem to be talking about slightly different issues...


You can argue it's sexist if someone says one sex should do something, or one sex shouldn't (and hypocritical if they go against the 'rules' they set out for their sex). However, there's nothing wrong with, using your example, saying that a woman is unattractive because she swears. Saying only men should be permitted to swear would be sexist, but it's fine for someone to point out what they find (un)attractive.

Some things can be double standards, but you're bound to look for more (or at least, different things) in a potential life partner than a friend. To flip gender roles, let's say you were a (heterosexual) career focused woman who wanted children. You'd look for a man who was willing to stay at home to look after the kids. That's not hypocritical or having double standards. Similarly, if we go with traditional gender roles, if you were looking for a man who was willing to work extra hours so you could spend time at home with your kids, that's not hypocritical or having double standards either.
Reply 36
Original post by KingStannis
I actually quite like pubic hair on girls.

Oddly, my upper body is largely hairless but my legs are pretty hairy especially the back of my thighs.

apart from my head and armpits, the only particularly hairy part of my upper body is a tail line leading from my pubes to my belly button.

Is this weird?


Not at all, exactly the same as me.
Reply 37
Original post by StevieGFan
Because i'm 21 years old, have slept with a number of women in excess of 3-quarters of my age, and my bank balance reads in excess of £600,000.

Relative to other males on this website, I am the epitome.


But your also a cock.
I currently have legs to rival a gorilla. Shaving takes too much effort; I'll only really do it if I intend to wear a dress. Even better, my boyfriend doesn't give a damn, and he can be as hairy as he pleases. Since when was body hair so important anyway?
Original post by KingStannis
I actually quite like pubic hair on girls.

Oddly, my upper body is largely hairless but my legs are pretty hairy especially the back of my thighs.

apart from my head and armpits, the only particularly hairy part of my upper body is a tail line leading from my pubes to my belly button.

Is this weird?


yeah its so sexy going down on a girl and her pubes irritating your nose and getting in your teeth. *sarcasm"

Id much rather a shaved or trimmed look. But then im shaved myself and my gf prefers it

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