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Completing the square

Ive just learnt about completing the square, and I understand how we do it. But I don't get why we do it? can someone explain this to me? I have a question that Ive answered and was wondering if you could refer to this write in the form of (x+p)squared + q xsquared +8x+15 I did (x+4)squared-1... thanks :-):smile::smile::smile::smile:
Reply 1
It's handy for solving and plotting quadratic equations. If you complete the square of ax2+bx+cax^2 + bx + c and rearrange you get the quadratic formula :smile:
Try rearranging s=ut+12at2s=ut+\frac{1}{2}at^2 for t :smile:
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Original post by artymaniac
Ive just learnt about completing the square, and I understand how we do it. But I don't get why we do it? can someone explain this to me? I have a question that Ive answered and was wondering if you could refer to this write in the form of (x+p)squared + q xsquared +8x+15 I did (x+4)squared-1... thanks :-):smile::smile::smile::smile:

Your answer is correct, and it's useful for plotting points as said above, and at a level it's used to find minimum points of graphs.
Reply 4
Original post by ChildishHambino
Your answer is correct, and it's useful for plotting points as said above, and at a level it's used to find minimum points of graphs.
thank you everyone that's useful to know:smile:
Its a simpler way (in some regards) of solving quadratics and finding minimum points.

Still I find it rather useless, much preferring to solve using the formula and find minimum points via differentiation and stationary points.
Reply 6
Original post by arkanm
If we didn't know how to complete the swquare, we wouldn't be able to get the quadratic formula basically.


I found a way of deriving it without completing the square, but it is ridiculously unintuitive. I much prefer the conpleting the square method.:smug:

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Reply 7
Original post by Krollo
I found a way of deriving it without completing the square, but it is ridiculously unintuitive. I much prefer the conpleting the square method.:smug:

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Reply 8
OK...
[br]ax2+bx+c=0[br]4a2x2+4abx+4ac=0[br]4a2x2+4abx+4ac+b2=b2[br]4a2x2+4abx+b2=b24ac[br]2ax+b=±b24ac[br]2ax=b±b24ac[br]x=b±b24ac2a[br][br]ax^{2} + bx + c =0[br]4a^{2}x^{2} + 4abx + 4ac = 0[br]4a^{2}x^{2} + 4abx + 4ac + b^{2} = b^{2}[br]4a^{2}x^{2} + 4abx + b^{2} = b^{2} - 4ac[br]2ax + b = \pm\sqrt{b^{2}-4ac}[br]2ax = -b\pm\sqrt{b^{2}-4ac}[br]x = \dfrac {-b\pm\sqrt{b^{2}-4ac}}{2a}[br]
Replace + at the end with plus/minus, don't know how to do it in latex!


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Original post by Krollo
OK...
[br]ax2+bx+c=0[br]4a2x2+4abx+4ac=0[br]4a2x2+4abx+4ac+b2=b2[br]4a2x2+4abx+b2=b24ac[br]2ax+b=±b24ac[br]2ax=b±b24ac[br]x=b±b24ac2a[br][br]ax^{2} + bx + c =0[br]4a^{2}x^{2} + 4abx + 4ac = 0[br]4a^{2}x^{2} + 4abx + 4ac + b^{2} = b^{2}[br]4a^{2}x^{2} + 4abx + b^{2} = b^{2} - 4ac[br]2ax + b = \pm\sqrt{b^{2}-4ac}[br]2ax = -b\pm\sqrt{b^{2}-4ac}[br]x = \dfrac {-b\pm\sqrt{b^{2}-4ac}}{2a}[br]
Replace + at the end with plus/minus, don't know how to do it in latex!


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Forgive me if I'm being stupid, but how did you get from step 4 to step 5? (I don't know how to use latex) I don't understand how you got 2ax + b = square root of 4a^2x^2 + 4abx + b^2. I know this is true, simply by plugging in some made up values, but how did you get there via algebra?
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Reply 10
Original post by SheldonWannabe
Forgive me if I'm being stupid, but how did you get from step 4 to step 5? (I don't know how to use latex) I don't understand how you got 2ax + b = square root of 4a^2x^2 + 4abx + b^2. I know this is true, simply by plugging in some made up values, but how did you get there via algebra?


I'm sure there's a 'proper' way but I just did it by inspection. In that situation you know that 4a^2x^2 when started is equal to 2ax, and b^2 sqrted is obviously b, so if you test (2ax+b)^2 you can see that it works. In all truth to get this I worked backwards from the quadratic formula, and it is appreciably easier that way :smile:


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Reply 11
Original post by Krollo
I'm sure there's a 'proper' way but I just did it by inspection. In that situation you know that 4a^2x^2 when started is equal to 2ax, and b^2 sqrted is obviously b, so if you test (2ax+b)^2 you can see that it works. In all truth to get this I worked backwards from the quadratic formula, and it is appreciably easier that way :smile:


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Your method is essentially the same as the 'usual' way of deriving the quadratic formula. The step from line 4 to line 5 is exactly completing the square, you have missed an intermediate step which would read:

(2ax+b)^2=b^2 -4ac

which is the form that you work towards in a completing the square problem.

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