Is so much easier for a man to have an attractive body..

'flawed' do you watch star trek voyager Why do you think Im a retard for noticing that men can get almost the body they want through effort/training yet females can't as some assets (ie breasts) they are stuck with.

Its not my 'argument' its just an opinion/thought I had whilst working out. Haven't you never given a 'retarded argument'? But then you wouldnt know if you had because to you it would make sense. But then I don't think your threads are retarded I think you make some interesting ones

See about the height of a man it doesnt bother me as Im short anyway, short guys can be hot to me! Though to women in general it might be different.

Like someone else said, you don't need to work out and push yourself to be attractive as a girl. Before you even worked out, you had a body that was attractive to a decent proportion of guys. That includes your chest (most guys do not care abour your chest size) and your butt.

If you are THAT bothered about your chest, put on more weight. Eat more. Some of that weight is bound to go to your chest. After all, your breasts are fat tissue so extra weight will make them bigger. Your butt has muscle in so you can increase the size of that in two ways.

You yourself said that getting muscles doesn't make a girl more attractive, so why are you putting so much effort into working out and getting those muscles?

Im not putting so much effort into getting huge muscles (like a body builder would), I just want to look very fit/toned plus Im increasing my fitness levels/training anyway. I enjoy pushing myself to the limit I love leaving the gym after a workout feeling exhausted feels like Ive done something! Not to the point of being sick though, Ive got a phobia of puking!! No way am I putting on weight (fat) if thats what attractive to guys Ive had it!

Grass is always greener


I've always thought that for both genders, if you:

- Clean yourself
- Wear deodorant
- Wear nice clothes
- Aren't stressed out 24/7
- Smile and emanate confidence
- Keep yourself in shape
- Have a good sense of humour
- Don't eat crap

You're going to struggle to be ugly. There are a few ways that girls get to cheat on this though:


- High heels which make you taller and have nicer bum
- Make up which covers poor skin and stressed expression


And there's advantages for guys on the other side:

- Nicer clothes are cheaper
- Easier to clean regularly (hair especially)


I personally think it's easier for guys, I'm not exactly a good looking guy but all I have to do is wear nice clothes, not live on takeaway and have a laugh.

Just to add, a man's attractiveness also emanates primarily from his height. A guy can have a 10/10 toned physique, but if he's only 5ft tall, most girls aren't going near him. So yes in that department, women do have a leg up because guys in general don't care how tall the girl is.

Tell me how a flat/tiny chested woman can get a superb physique through effort/training..

the way a guy can through going to the gym.

Most guys don't want a tall girl.

How come people say that men have it harder/more is expected when it comes to having a nice body? Any man can have an attractive body by working out/weights and all that. However as a female I train regular but apparantly even though Im toned/strong can never have a superb body because Im flat chested (well size AA). Men don't tend to look at a womans muscles and be attracted its usually the breasts/bum they care about and things that are hard to/impossible to improve. With guys its about muscles which can certainly be improved.

btw Im not sexist or anything like that im just trying to see things as they are and am questioning it. We know that woman have makeup to hide behind and Im not disputing that asI agree but Im asking about the body..

what do you think guys/girls? Opinions?

No they don't. Who said they need to starve themselves?

Sounds like you've been reading too much **** from Cosmo, Heat and other ****ty womens magazines.

This too. Naturally broad shoulders they are attracted to. And height.

The more I read these arguments, the more I laugh out loud @ the OP for thinking girls have it harder to get a good body. The OP's argument is flawed and retarded.

You can get broad shoulders by doing certain sports when you're younger (rowing, swimming, gymnastics etc.), doesn't have to be all genetics. Of course this relies on your 11/12 year old self thinking of benefits they're not that interested in yet to doing 5 or more training sessions a week!

I'm 23.

Brb, going back in time 12 years to do those sports.

the last line is tosh

male bodies are naturally alot more attractive

its just that female features are more baby like, so both sexes find them good to look at

I've already explained my arguments if you would read my previous posts.

I already told you if you're THAT bothered about your breast size, gain weight. Breast tissue is fat. You gain weight = you put some weight on your breasts. If you're still unhappy, save up and get a boob job. I did explain before that guys don't care very much about breast size.

Thank you for finding my threads interesting although I think that smiley denotes sarcasm.

You might not care about height but go out into the real world and many many women do. Naturally broad shoulders (i.e. bone structure) they love too. These are things a guy cannot change. He was born with his height and can't change it. He was born with his bone structure and can't change it.

Now tell me again why you think women have it harder?

I figured not relevant to most on TSR, just saying there will actually be quite a lot of guys out there with broad shoulders who don't necessarily work out that much for reasons besides genetics.