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Reply 60
Original post by jusdorange
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Unless you're a virgin (and this is perhaps the most charitable assumption we can make), you can't possibly fail to relate to what she's saying. Most porn is ****ing terrible in every applicable sense of that phrase and to suggest otherwise does not augur well for any future relationship you may embark upon.
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Original post by desdemonata
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from earlier;

You are really naive about guys and what they want from porn/what makes them turned on.

Guys will rarely tell girls how they view girls as you'll be "dirty pervert" and please don't remark "but MY friends aren't like that" :rolleyes:

check yourself at any major site what the most viewed videos are,

and it's not "would you mind awfully dear if we had anal intercourse? oh you do? well then, vaginal it is then", "darling, can I ejaculate on your face? oh it'll mess up your make-up, my apologies, I will dispose of my semen in a clean hygienic manner"

yes, porn is watched partially due to sexual frustration, but males who are in relationships also do watch it, as the appeal is that you get to watch a girl being sexed in a manner than perhaps your girl next door wouldn't
Original post by Profesh
Unless you're a virgin (and this is perhaps the most charitable assumption we can make), you can't possibly fail to relate to what she's saying.


if you had read my further comments, it wasn't the fakeness that I was alluding to, but rather why she seemed to think it made a difference to biggest demographic i.e. men

I have replied again, post above this one if you want a read.
Original post by WGR
Jesus you just won't stop with the strawman arguments here. "I said that there is a welfare system and checks in the porn industry to prevent exploitation therefore I believe that nobody has ever been exploited"

You still have failed to give me a scenario where someone could be desperate for money even though they get £56 a week JSA or whatever welfare they give in the USA?

Illegal brothels have nothing to do with the porn industry. Please stay on topic.

I have already pointed out that if you bother to watch any porn video they all speak in perfect English with local UK/US accents implying that they are not fresh-off-the-boat immigrants. In fact it is more or less a requirement in British porn for the woman to sound posh because that is the stereotype fantasy that foreign viewers enjoy. For example f I were to search for Australian porn right now I'd be doing it purely for the accent seeing as Australian women are pretty much identical looking to British women.

How violent porn is is irrelevant because as stated clearly in my first post it is up to them if they want to do it whether you want to believe that or not. Furthermore crazed feminists such as yourself conveniently like to forget about the fact that for every porno degrading a woman there's a porno degrading a man. "femdom" porn where the man is chained and whipped and made to please the woman is huge business.

I strongly think that you are trolling because nobody could be this blind to reality.


Yeah. Because we also have fraud checks, means that nobody gets away with fraud. Because we have checks for the exploitation of benefits and disability allowance, then of course no one manages to do that either.
Please :rolleyes:

Do you know the percentage of people living in poverty? I'll let you go and look it up. Now try and envision that out of the thousands of young girls that will form part of that % (hint: it't quite a bit higher than 1% or 5% :rolleyes:), that none of them would turn to being amateur porn stars. We've even had threads on TSR for Christ sakes where girls have asked about becoming "escorts" to earn a little extra cash during uni.
Also I don't think you understand how the porn industry entices people. Do you really think that if people were, for example, told they'd be paid a certain amount of cash for doing a few hours' work as a secretary a couple of times a week, they wouldn't do that instead of porn? Porn pays well, and it's not like you need qualifications or experience to get a job in it like you need for most other professions.

Brothels are part of the sex industry, as is porn. Why you think that porn is the holy section of the sex industry that exploitation doesn't reach, I don't know.

Oh, all? Every single one? :lol: I have actually seen porn, and funnily enough I've also seen porn that wasn't in English and had subtitles. Now you're just trying to make it sound like ALL porn is done in English, which is obviously bull****. Have you ever heard of Latina porn? Indian? Asian? Euro? Ebony?

At what point have I identified as a feminist? :sigh: Do you really not have any other rebuttal than just calling me a crazed feminist? You make it sound like I'm anti-porn. Obviously men are exploited by the porn industry as well, but I thought we were talking about women. Unless you're trying to change the topic. And I think you need to look up the definition of exploitation. Agreeing to it because they feel they have no other choice but than to take the money is exploitation.
I'd hazard a guess and say Porn is alot harsher a job for a man than it is a woman.
Reply 65
Original post by LickingCarpet
It seems like this is really on the rise at the moment, I know quite a few girls who do it and make a serious amount of money.

I actually know a guy who rents houses, fills them with eastern european girls and has them earn their rent by camming at night. loads of people are doing it and it's f***ed up.
Reply 66
Original post by jusdorange
I believe the point she is trying to make (and failing badly at it)

is that, let's use USA as the example, as porn industries do vary but since USA is the biggest, stick to that

A lot of people who are dependant on drugs can find themselves in porn, a lot of porn stars come from abused familes/broken homes, thereby she is trying to make the argument that whilst if they sign up to a reputable place (rather than rogue places) they might be treated fairly and justly, the situation leading up to that point might not have been so rosy.

They got a legit job to feed their drug habit. What is the problem with that? So what if they feel degraded doing it? Some people feel degraded being a binman, some people feel degraded being a toilet cleaner, Many people do jobs they find degrading because they have no choice and we tell them to shut up and get on with it. What is degrading all depends on the individual. The core problem with people like you is that you believe porn is the most degrading thing of all and you can't realize that it is not a fact, it is your moral.
Original post by WGR
They got a legit job to feed their drug habit. What is the problem with that? So what if they feel degraded doing it? Some people feel degraded being a binman, some people feel degraded being a toilet cleaner, Many people do jobs they find degrading because they have no choice and we tell them to shut up and get on with it. What is degrading all depends on the individual. The core problem with people like you is that you believe porn is the most degrading thing of all and you can't realize that it is not a fact, it is your moral.

Where did I say that ???

I stated it's a point she was making, and others might feel the same way

I did not bring my belief system into this, I was just advocating for others/that viewpoint

I'm all for porn if you wanted to know my position.
Reply 68
Original post by jusdorange
Where did I say that ???

I stated it's a point she was making, and others might feel the same way

I did not bring my belief system into this, I was just advocating for others/that viewpoint

I'm all for porn if you wanted to know my position.

Ok well not you but that other girl who went into feminazi mode.
Original post by vespa
I actually know a guy who rents houses, fills them with eastern european girls and has them earn their rent by camming at night. loads of people are doing it and it's f***ed up.


That is really messed up, I thought it was quite innocent just students making extra money but I guess not.
Original post by jusdorange
from earlier;

You are really naive about guys and what they want from porn/what makes them turned on.

Guys will rarely tell girls how they view girls as you'll be "dirty pervert" and please don't remark "but MY friends aren't like that" :rolleyes:

check yourself at any major site what the most viewed videos are,

and it's not "would you mind awfully dear if we had anal intercourse? oh you do? well then, vaginal it is then", "darling, can I ejaculate on your face? oh it'll mess up your make-up, my apologies, I will dispose of my semen in a clean hygienic manner"

yes, porn is watched partially due to sexual frustration, but males who are in relationships also do watch it, as the appeal is that you get to watch a girl being sexed in a manner than perhaps your girl next door wouldn't


Not quite sure why you are so keen to convey to me what your opinions are on this. It's not like it really affects me to know someone on TSR thinks I don't know much about guys or porn based on a few thread comments. Especially considering the person that actually matters when it comes to discussing such subjects is my boyfriend, who you don't happen to be.

And actually I talked about this in another post, so :dontknow:
Hell no. Horror story time...There was a girl in my school who was very 'well known', she did a video with a ping pong ball which did some popping out of some places. Guys were in a pub talking and showed one of their mates who was HER FATHER. **** that ****.
Original post by blueray
Bloody whores, of course not, some people have enough self respect not to stoop to that level! Nor get exploited in what is fake enjoyment.
Whores? That is very judgemental and incorrect in many cases.

A significant proportion of those employed within the industry do it for the income. They want to be employed legally. They want to pay for their studies. They want to provide for their family. They don't want to claim welfare from the state. Ain't nothing wrong with that and it definitely does not make them whores. On the contrary, it's just a form of income that offers them a chance to build a future for themselves. A financial platform from which they can achieve their goals once they leave the sector.
Original post by WGR
How do people get abused? It's totally up to them if they want to do it and they get paid thousands. Obviously can't speak for porn shot in deepest darkest Africa but I'm pretty sure nobody in California is forced into it.


Well actually they are asked to do a lot of things out of their comfort zones, and they have other porn stars waiting in line if the woman doesn't agree, so they have to keep up and say yes to things they don't want to do to make a buck. You can read what ex and current porn stars have to say about the business. There is a lot of pressure.
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Reply 74
Original post by Yasmin25
I personally wouldn't do it. I would find it weird having sex with someone I had just met and doing it in front of a camera knowing loads of people would see it.

As long as protection is used, both are the 16 or above (or whatever the legal age is depending on which country) and both parties are up for starring in porn, I have nothing against it.


FYI: in some countries the age of consent is far lower than 16. :wink:
Reply 75
Original post by blueray
Bloody whores, of course not, some people have enough self respect not to stoop to that level! Nor get exploited in what is fake enjoyment.


Self respect? So doing porn means you don't respect yourself? How is that? Does not exercising regularly mean you don't respect yourself? Does not being scientifically literate mean you don't respect yourself? Does it?
Original post by Juichiro
Self respect? So doing porn means you don't respect yourself? How is that? Does not exercising regularly mean you don't respect yourself? Does not being scientifically literate mean you don't respect yourself? Does it?


yes
Reply 77
I was sort of hoping the posts would stop at number 69
Reply 78
Original post by WGR
Why is it that being a pornstar is more acceptable than being a prostitute? They are both being paid to have sex at the end of the day. Also why is that pornstars are never slut-shamed but non-pornstars who get exposed in one amateur tape are? Fore example there was that girl who was pictured doing oral at a concert and that made the worldwide news when people like Sasha Grey do things like that every day in full HD quality AND try to sell it to as many people as possible and nobody bats an eyelid?


Becoming having more money is more respectable than having less money.
Reply 79
Original post by jusdorange
let me put it this way;

do guys watch an action movie for the realism ??

the point of porn is to be unrealistic

Yes, but authentically unrealistic; a plausible fantasy of the idealised sexual encounter, if you will. Were verisimilitude not required, they'd simply use posable mannequins.

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