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Simple square root question

Is (±x)2=±x \sqrt{(\pm \hspace{0.1cm} x)^2} = \pm \hspace{0.1cm}x \hspace{0.1cm}?

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Reply 1
Original post by John taylor
Is (±x)2=±x \sqrt{(\pm \hspace{0.1cm} x)^2} = \pm \hspace{0.1cm}x \hspace{0.1cm}?


No

It is |x|
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Reply 2
I think you are right :smile:

Try a number...2 2^2 = 4 and the square root of 4 is +/- 2

Try the negative...-2 -2^2 = 4 and the square root of 4 is +/- 2 so yes you are right :smile:
Reply 3
Original post by Munrot07
I think you are right :smile:

Try a number...2 2^2 = 4 and the square root of 4 is +/- 2

Try the negative...-2 -2^2 = 4 and the square root of 4 is +/- 2 so yes you are right :smile:


No, he is not correct and neither are you

4=2\sqrt{4} = 2

It does not = -2
Reply 4
Original post by TenOfThem
No, he is not correct and neither are you

4=2\sqrt{4} = 2

It does not = -2


um what? you do know that the square root of a number is +/- the number...if you square a negative number you get a positive number -2^2 = 4, square rooting is the opposite so yes it can be negative...this is really simple maths...look it up online

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081231145658AAdZ2yi
Reply 5
Original post by Munrot07
um what? you do know that the square root of a number is +/- the number...if you square a negative number you get a positive number -2^ = 2, square rooting is the opposite so yes it can be negative...this is really simple maths...look it up online


No, you are still mistaken

Whilst (2)2=4(-2)^2 = 4 as you said

By definition 4=2\sqrt{4} = 2 and only 2
Reply 6
Original post by Munrot07
um what? you do know that the square root of a number is +/- the number...if you square a negative number you get a positive number -2^2 = 4, square rooting is the opposite so yes it can be negative...this is really simple maths...look it up online

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081231145658AAdZ2yi






Ahhhhh - I see you have linked to a post where some people know the answer and some people do not
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Reply 8
Original post by TenOfThem
No, you are still mistaken

Whilst (2)2=4(-2)^2 = 4 as you said

By definition 4=2\sqrt{4} = 2 and only 2


it really isn't...please look it up... the square root of a number can equal the negative, if you do A level maths in mark schemes any time you square root something you have to go the positive and the negative answer, seriously the square root of 4 can be -2
Reply 9
Original post by Munrot07
um what? you do know that the square root of a number is +/- the number...if you square a negative number you get a positive number -2^2 = 4, square rooting is the opposite so yes it can be negative...this is really simple maths...look it up online

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081231145658AAdZ2yi


Yahoo Answers isn't a reliable source for backing up incorrect claims :tongue:
Original post by Munrot07
it really isn't...please look it up... the square root of a number can equal the negative, if you do A level maths in mark schemes any time you square root something you have to go the positive and the negative answer, seriously the square root of 4 can be -2


I could "look it up" if I needed too

You are under a very common mis-conception
Reply 11
Original post by StephenNaulls
Yahoo Answers isn't a reliable source for backing up incorrect claims :tongue:


It was the first one i found :P

here is wiki which says the same as what I am saying

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_root
Reply 12
Original post by TenOfThem
I could "look it up" if I needed too

You are under a very common mis-conception


The thing is i'm not...look at the wiki link i just sent where it says " For example, 4 and −4 are square roots of 16 because 42 = (−4)2 = 16."
Original post by Munrot07
it really isn't...please look it up... the square root of a number can equal the negative, if you do A level maths in mark schemes any time you square root something you have to go the positive and the negative answer, seriously the square root of 4 can be -2

No, by definition, x2=x\sqrt{x^2} = |x|
Original post by Munrot07
It was the first one i found :P

here is wiki which says the same as what I am saying

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_root


That link does not agree with you

It correctly states

Every non-negative real number a has a unique non-negative square root, called the principal square root, which is denoted by √a, where is called the radical sign or radix. For example, the principal square root of 9 is 3, denoted √9 = 3, because 32 = 3 × 3 = 9 and 3 is non-negative
Original post by Munrot07
The thing is i'm not...look at the wiki link i just sent where it says " For example, 4 and −4 are square roots of 16 because 42 = (−4)2 = 16."


The article backs up what TenOfThem is saying.

He did not claim that -2 is not a square root of 4. He claimed that √4 = 2, and 2 only. is the positive square root, by definition.

Every positive number a has two square roots: √a, which is positive, and −√a, which is negative
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Original post by Munrot07
The thing is i'm not...look at the wiki link i just sent where it says " For example, 4 and −4 are square roots of 16 because 42 = (−4)2 = 16."


You are confusing 2 concepts

4=2\sqrt{4} = 2 by definition
Original post by TenOfThem
No

It is x


I thought sqrt((+-x)^2)=sqrt(x^2)=modulusx=+-x:confused:

As for the source that sqrt(x) only calculates the postive root:http://www.edexcel.com/migrationdocuments/GCE%20New%20GCE/UA035243_GCE_Lin_Maths_Issue_3.pdf
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Reply 18
Original post by Forum User
The article backs up what TenOfThem is saying.


it clearly says the root of a number has a positive and a negative...it doesn't matter if it is the "principle square root" a negative number can still be a square root...
Original post by Dalek1099
I thought sqrt((+-x)^2)=sqrt(x^2)=modulusx=+-x:confused:

As for the source that sqrt(x) only calculates the postive root:http://www.edexcel.com/migrationdocuments/GCE%20New%20GCE/UA035243_GCE_Lin_Maths_Issue_3.pdf


I have no idea what you have said here

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