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Reply 60
Original post by BeautifulPotato
OP, though my TSR days are early, I have noticed that most posters here seem to worship medics, especially GPs. Now, I understand and respect the health profession, but these TSR people, they don't like nothing bad said about them - they are like the pinnacles of academic conformity...

Your doctor seem a little bit awkward - it was OK of him to ask where your parents are from but maybe he should have clarified that he needs to know for medical reasons rather than just coming out with it.

I hope your knees OK (and I don't need to clarify that I mean that sincerely unlike other TSR-ites...)

But yes, beware the TSR bias in some cases.


I couldn't have said it better myself. :smile:
Reply 61
Original post by Red one
I think you've made a whole heap of assumptions here and made an array of excuses for the guy because he's a doctor. I'd rather he kept things professional even if that meant sitting in silence while he gathered his thoughts, I genuinely felt offended by the end which affected my answers for the questions that DID relate to my knee. I even forgot to ask him a couple of questions that I really wanted answered because he left me flustered constantly second-guessing what I was going to say next.


I'm not asking for him to be BFFs with me but come on have some common sense. You might be comfortable with someone asking you about your country of origin but I'm not and I think it's a personal question to ask a stranger outright. He has all my info on file which he had in his hand so that wasn't a question relating to my knee just him being nosey.


I think half the problem is that you come across as a bit of a socially awkward teenager yourself. It's none of your business? Who even says that in real life, even if it is factually correct?

As for personal questions, I can see how they can appear irrelevant and misplaced but again, to a normal person, it's just being friendly. You may like to sit in silence during a consultation, but that is the definition of awkward and not what he would normally be used to. Questions relating to your personal life and who you're attending with are also important either in respect to the medical management (e.g. why is that Orthopaedic Consultant so hung up on how serious a 17 year old kid with a fractured collar bone takes his swimming?) or often, they used these memory cues to actually remember who you are by creating a picture of you. You need to understand he'd see hundreds of patients walking through those fracture clinic doors with remarkably similar and boring injuries that if he were to remember who you were the next time you'd visit, such 'personal' cues are used as memory aides. For example, that slightly dim teenager who broke his ankle jumping off backwards from a wall whilst drunk serves as a better memory aid than a simple 'fractured fibula', even if it appears judgemental.
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Reply 62
Original post by _jake_
You think that's weird. I went to my doctors to see the skin specialist to check a mole. He looked and then I sat opposite him, his chair was pretty close and he smirked at me as he told me to rub 'lady moisturiser' all over my body. He also held my hand for a rather long time when he shook it.

Also, I went as I had pain in my eye and said I'd read up about something on online that describes my symptoms. She lectured me on self-diagnosis, then proceeded to trawl through eye conditions on Wikipedia and diagnosed me with the one I mentioned. :smile:


You find it weird that a person whose whole entire career revolves around skin takes an interest in the stuff? Imagine meeting a gastroenterologist asking you what your poo looks like to the nth degree - evidently awkward but pretty necessary! :tongue:

No but seriously, dermatologists need to be a bit on the sensitive and caring side like that, even if that seems weird to you. Unlike most illnesses, skin problems are very visible, affect all age groups, including young people who naturally get a lot of related problems as a result of their skin conditions - anxiety, depression, etc.
Reply 63
Original post by nosaer
You find it weird that a person whose whole entire career revolves around skin takes an interest in the stuff? Imagine meeting a gastroenterologist asking you what your poo looks like to the nth degree - evidently awkward but pretty necessary! :tongue:

No but seriously, dermatologists need to be a bit on the sensitive and caring side like that, even if that seems weird to you. Unlike most illnesses, skin problems are very visible, affect all age groups, including young people who naturally get a lot of related problems as a result of their skin conditions - anxiety, depression, etc.

No, not weird that he likes skin and he was a GP. It was more of how he was looking at me, smirking, extremely close to me, telling me to rub 'lady' moisturiser all over my body. It was more of a, you had to be there kinda moment.:colone:
They think because they have all these qualifications that they are the be end all and that they are invincible. I don't care what qualifications I have I will never ever act like that, I know how that feels and looks and I would never ever want myself to be seen in that image.
Reply 65
Original post by nosaer
I think half the problem is that you come across as a bit of a socially awkward teenager yourself. It's none of your business? Who even says that in real life, even if it is factually correct?


I'm anything but awkward I'm a social butterfly and I often find it easy to interact and approach people and in the same sense people find me approachable. I smile at strangers who stare at me on the bus/train and I'm very upbeat and always down for a laugh.

However this man has crossed a line and I felt disrespected in every sense of the word. He was gauche and totally unprofessional and it was visible that he was enjoying giving me the third degree. As for saying it's none of your business well it's true isn't it? He needs to realise that he cannot say something offensive and then proceed to ask personal questions without clarifying the purpose of his question. Truth is that half the stuff he asked me had nothing to do with my knee and the rest were of a dubious quality.
Reply 66
Original post by Red one
My dad's a doctor and I've noticed this about him too.


It's clear where your reaction stems from then.
Reply 67
Original post by Red one
I'm anything but awkward I'm a social butterfly and I often find it easy to interact and approach people and in the same sense people find me approachable. I smile at strangers who stare at me on the bus/train and I'm very upbeat and always down for a laugh.

However this man has crossed a line and I felt disrespected in every sense of the word. He was gauche and totally unprofessional and it was visible that he was enjoying giving me the third degree. As for saying it's none of your business well it's true isn't it? He needs to realise that he cannot say something offensive and then proceed to ask personal questions without clarifying the purpose of his question. Truth is that half the stuff he asked me had nothing to do with my knee and the rest were of a dubious quality.


Lol, "social butterfly" :biggrin:

Asking where your parents are from is about as offensive as asking when your birthday is... grow up and find something that's actually worth complaining about :rolleyes:
Reply 68
Original post by Red one
I realise my title is a generalisation but hear me out. Almost every doctor I've had the unfortunate experience of interacting with has been either socially inept or generally just awkward. Often they fail to detect and respond appropriately to virtually all cues.


Well why did I create this thread now? Because I just came out of my 4 months post OP appoinment for my knee surgery with the head of the fracture/trauma clinic and I feel like I've gone through a car autowash only having come out worse off at the end of the conveyor.


I attended the appoinment with my brother he's been there with me the last time I went too. And right off the bat the doctor recognised my brother and asked if he was my best friend or something of that effect (can't actually recall word for word) implying that we were dating. My brother told him that we were siblings and the guy blushed and followed it up with a "I'm sorry". Not the best start so you might think the doctor will keep his line of questioning fixed on my surgery rather than my personal life.

He then asked me to roll my jeans and he started passing his hand up and down my knee while he was asking me quite generic questions. His hand was slipping on my legs because I used some E45 to moisturise around the scars b4 I left the house. He asked me out of the blue "have you moisturised" as he smirked with a smug look on his face. I didn't know how to respond so I stayed quiet and briefly glanced over at my brother.

The weird questions didn't end there, he proceeded to ask me for my country of origin or rather "where are your parent's from?" as he so rudely put it. Now I don't know what brought that question on because I was born in the UK and I don't have an accent in fact I can count on a single hand how many times someone has asked me that question. So I was taken aback by it and I responded with a "it's none of your business". He visibly became disgruntled at my response and after 10minutes of generic stuff he told me that I should continue with the physio and take it easy on the knee because I have a long way to go. I thanked him and proceeded to roll my jeans down and put my shoes on and headed for the exit as fast as I could. What a creep right... I forgot to mention the weird looks and the long pauses he took for whatever reason...


Thoughts?


Wow, you sound incredibly rude. The doctor made an effort to try and get to know you, and you threw it back in his face. Furthermore, when he asked you legitimate questions (such as where are your parents from), you took unnecessary offence and reacted in a rude fashion.

I honestly couldn't envisage myself being so brash and disrespectful to my doctor. The doctor is there to help you, and your seemingly rude and awkward personality doesn't make the job any easier.
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If the doctor smiles and tries to get to know you he is 'smug'
if the doctor doesnt smile or ask questions he is depressing and seems like he cant be arsed.
How come you moan about him talking then moan about the silences? What do you want from him?
Original post by Red one
I realise my title is a generalisation but hear me out. Almost every doctor I've had the unfortunate experience of interacting with has been either socially inept or generally just awkward. Often they fail to detect and respond appropriately to virtually all cues.


Well why did I create this thread now? Because I just came out of my 4 months post OP appoinment for my knee surgery with the head of the fracture/trauma clinic and I feel like I've gone through a car autowash only having come out worse off at the end of the conveyor.


I attended the appoinment with my brother he's been there with me the last time I went too. And right off the bat the doctor recognised my brother and asked if he was my best friend or something of that effect (can't actually recall word for word) implying that we were dating. My brother told him that we were siblings and the guy blushed and followed it up with a "I'm sorry". Not the best start so you might think the doctor will keep his line of questioning fixed on my surgery rather than my personal life.

He then asked me to roll my jeans and he started passing his hand up and down my knee while he was asking me quite generic questions. His hand was slipping on my legs because I used some E45 to moisturise around the scars b4 I left the house. He asked me out of the blue "have you moisturised" as he smirked with a smug look on his face. I didn't know how to respond so I stayed quiet and briefly glanced over at my brother.

The weird questions didn't end there, he proceeded to ask me for my country of origin or rather "where are your parent's from?" as he so rudely put it. Now I don't know what brought that question on because I was born in the UK and I don't have an accent in fact I can count on a single hand how many times someone has asked me that question. So I was taken aback by it and I responded with a "it's none of your business". He visibly became disgruntled at my response and after 10minutes of generic stuff he told me that I should continue with the physio and take it easy on the knee because I have a long way to go. I thanked him and proceeded to roll my jeans down and put my shoes on and headed for the exit as fast as I could. What a creep right... I forgot to mention the weird looks and the long pauses he took for whatever reason...


Thoughts?


Probably 5 years of medical school followed by 5 years of GP training, many medical students and doctors forget how to actually talk to people as they spend so much of their lives studying and they actually have modules about communication etc. I rmemeber one boy in my firm, we were given a set of questions to ask the patients on ward rounds )for cardio exam) and he looked confused and asked the doctor, do we have to ask them in this order? What if we lose order? Says everything really haha
Reply 71
That's not rude at all, he was just trying to have a conversation with you. I had problems with my nipple because of hormones, it was bigger than usual. I went to see my doctor, he looked at nipple and said "Have you decided to become a woman". I just ignored that and didn't overreact like you did :erm:

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