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Why does the UK only have the 6th best education system in the world

behind

Finland
South Korea
Hong Kong
Japan
Singapore

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-20498356


Do you think more changes are required to improve education overall? If so what changes do you think are needed to ensure the UK comes in the top 3/4

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Reply 1
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ElChapo
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Original post by ineedtorevise127
behind

Finland
South Korea
Hong Kong
Japan
Singapore

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-20498356


Do you think more changes are required to improve education overall? If so what changes do you think are needed to ensure the UK comes in the top 3/4


How can you rank education like this anyway, I think were doing fine tbh

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haha Singapore. Parents there are ****ing nutters.
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Dylann
21
Finland have no school uniform. No league tables. No private schools. That's why they're no.1.

We should eliminate private schools and league tables. We need much tougher GCSEs and year 6 SATs. Gove has the right idea but his methods to accomplish it are beyond ridiculous.

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Original post by Dylann
Gove has the right idea but his methods to accomplish it are beyond ridiculous.


Very very very very x100 true.
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Ceryni
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Original post by Dylann
Finland have no school uniform. No league tables. No private schools. That's why they're no.1.

We should eliminate private schools and league tables. We need much tougher GCSEs and year 6 SATs. Gove has the right idea but his methods to accomplish it are beyond ridiculous.

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Eliminating private schools would really accomplish nothing, apart when we have to fit thousands of schoolchildren into an already crowded system - they're already complaining about lack of places for primary schools!!
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Juichiro
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Original post by ineedtorevise127
behind

Finland
South Korea
Hong Kong
Japan
Singapore

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-20498356


Do you think more changes are required to improve education overall? If so what changes do you think are needed to ensure the UK comes in the top 3/4


I am skeptical to this. What's the criteria for the ranking? Japan and South Korea might have "good" education systems in terms of academic performance but they also have the world's highest student suicide rate. Surely that says something.
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Juichiro
18
Original post by Dylann
Finland have no school uniform. No league tables. No private schools. That's why they're no.1.

We should eliminate private schools and league tables. We need much tougher GCSEs and year 6 SATs. Gove has the right idea but his methods to accomplish it are beyond ridiculous.

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This is nonsense. Why is tougher better?
This is like saying that in order to kill a fire we need more and more wood.
Reply 9
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Blazinq
14
Though school is a big part of them achieving, it's also down to the parents/guardians to do something as well.
Original post by ineedtorevise127

Finland
South Korea
Hong Kong
Japan
Singapore



This is also to do with culture.... As a Hong Kong student I can safely say the attitudes towards working hard and getting good grades mean conditions for most students are brutal (there are so few places for sixth form only the top fifth or so of students get places). South Korea is even worse.
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Juichiro
18
Original post by TheHolubowskyj
This is also to do with culture.... As a Hong Kong student I can safely say the attitudes towards working hard and getting good grades mean conditions for most students are brutal (there are so few places for sixth form only the top fifth or so of students get places). South Korea is even worse.


Hardcore. :frown:
Original post by Juichiro
I am skeptical to this. What's the criteria for the ranking? Japan and South Korea might have "good" education systems in terms of academic performance but they also have the world's highest student suicide rate. Surely that says something.


Unfortunately the UK political climate is (generally) very much about greed, jealously, kicking other people down the ladder in case they kick you off, etc. Students topping themselves would be small peas to beating China in this international competition.
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Juichiro
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Original post by Moosferatu
Unfortunately the UK political climate is (generally) very much about greed, jealously, kicking other people down the ladder in case they kick you off, etc. Students topping themselves would be small peas to beating China in this international competition.


lol politics is pretty much the same in all countries.
6th isn't bad considering students in England are less likely to be castrated for getting a low grade.
Original post by ineedtorevise127
behind

Finland
South Korea
Hong Kong
Japan
Singapore

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-20498356


Do you think more changes are required to improve education overall? If so what changes do you think are needed to ensure the UK comes in the top 3/4


That's not bad. Not bad at all.

So we're not in a bad position at all. I think we need to just concentrate back on core subjects.
Original post by MatureStudent36
That's not bad. Not bad at all.

So we're not in a bad position at all. I think we need to just concentrate back on core subjects.


And vocational training, hopefully.
Original post by Moosferatu
And vocational training, hopefully.


Sorry. Vocational training of course. Vocational training is key to our recovery.
Original post by MatureStudent36
Sorry. Vocational training of course. Vocational training is key to our recovery.


Is that humour?
Original post by Moosferatu
Is that humour?


Not at all. A qualified welder, sparkie or CNC lathe operator is more useful than 10 medja studies graduates.

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