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Should homosexual relationships be taught in primary school (ages 5-11)

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Reply 60
they should just teach them about families society and cultures ect.. and stick in in there

some people have mummy and daddy
some people have two mummys
some people have two daddys
some people only have one mummy
some people only have one daddysome
people are adopted
Am I the only one that thinks schools should just teach academic subjects. I went to school in Europe and we never had any sex education etc. And still the UK has the highest teen pregnancy rates
Reply 62
Original post by AntiMonarchist
Am I the only one that thinks schools should just teach academic subjects. I went to school in Europe and we never had any sex education etc. And still the UK has the highest teen pregnancy rates


Well I certainly wouldn't have received the clear and detailed advice on all the types of contraception and STI's that I did through my secondary school's sex ed lessons. They teach it in a way that encourages you not to have sex if you aren't ready nor willing to accept the possible consequences, but that you know how to be as safe as possible should you choose to. In primary I was taught what happens during puberty and the basic ins and outs of sexual intercourse, which was at 10/11.

Plus it's in an environment with friends which makes it a lot easier than a seriously awkward conversation that I've thankfully not had to have with my parents, in terms of sex and contraception.


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Reply 63
Original post by JollyCooperation
Yes. Children should be taught that homosexuality is a disgusting perversion and that homosexuality contributes to the breakdown of society.

Parents of homo kids should be encouraged to send them to therapy to help cure them.


This best be a troll post. ._.


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Original post by ckingalt
The agenda is to indoctrinate children to accept all different types of sexuality. That may be a positive agenda but it is also one that many parents disagree with. My question is do we want to afford the state to right to undermine the intentions of those parents in the development of their children's beliefs? Bear in mind that the next agenda may be one you are opposed to.


If that's an agenda, then so is everything else. Perhaps schools have a secret agenda to accept the use of fountain pens! How dare they!? But that aside, it is not a school's job to teach conjecture. If you want to teach your children nonsense, that's on you but it's the school's job to educate children about the objective reality of the world, and that includes the existence of people with different sexualities, regardless of your baggage.

In all seriousness though, there's no good reason for children not to accept people of different sexualities any more than there'd be a reason for them not to accept people of different races. If you have a problem with that, that's your problem, not mine.
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Reply 65
Original post by jumpingjesusholycow
If that's an agenda, then so is everything else. Perhaps schools have a secret agenda to accept the use of fountain pens! How dare they!? But that aside, it is not a school's job to teach conjecture. If you want to teach your children nonsense, that's on you but it's the school's job to educate children about the objective reality of the world, and that includes the existence of people with different sexualities, regardless of your baggage.

In all seriousness though, there's no good reason for children not to accept people of different sexualities any more than there'd be a reason for them not to accept people of different races. If you have a problem with that, that's your problem, not mine.


You wrongly assume that me suggesting that schools should not discuss different sexualities with children means I don't accept people of different sexualities. I accept all different sexualities and I want my children to as well. I'm just not trying to impose my views on other people's children. And if I was I shouldn't be able to use the schools system to do it.
Original post by ckingalt
You wrongly assume that me suggesting that schools should not discuss different sexualities with children means I don't accept people of different sexualities. I accept all different sexualities and I want my children to as well. I'm just not trying to impose my views on other people's children. And if I was I shouldn't be able to use the schools system to do it.


Teaching people that gay people exist and that homosexuality is a perfectly viable sexuality amongst consenting individuals is not "imposing" anything on anyone. If a parent feels otherwise, that is their problem to deal with outside of school.
Yes I think when kids are being taught about love and relationships they should be taught men love woman woman love men love men and woman love woman and some people love both. That way hopefully the future generation will get over the homophobia which still unfortunately seems to be present in our society.
Reply 68
Original post by ckingalt
The agenda is to indoctrinate children to accept all different types of sexuality. That may be a positive agenda but it is also one that many parents disagree with. My question is do we want to afford the state to right to undermine the intentions of those parents in the development of their children's beliefs? Bear in mind that the next agenda may be one you are opposed to.


They don't need to "indoctrinate" them to tell them it exists. Gay couples exist that is a fact so telling them what it is is not indoctrination.
Reply 69
It would seem from some of the responses on this thread that yes we do need to educate children correctly regarding relationships.

But I can see why some parents would not want to allow it as it may challenge their own bigotry and hatred
Yeah because then they'll just accept it and they'll see it as a norm.
Reply 71
As a subject? No. As a casual note in any other subject such as "some people are attracted to the same gender and that's fine", sure.
But leave it until a level where sexuality is on the table.
Reply 72
Original post by bobdidies
They don't need to "indoctrinate" them to tell them it exists. Gay couples exist that is a fact so telling them what it is is not indoctrination.


Oh I see. So the intention is strictly to inform these kids that these relationships exist. What other things do we need to tell them it exists? There are countless things that exist that don't need to be discussed. By discussing it, we normalize it. Don't deny the intent.
Reply 73
Original post by ckingalt
Oh I see. So the intention is strictly to inform these kids that these relationships exist. What other things do we need to tell them it exists? There are countless things that exist that don't need to be discussed. By discussing it, we normalize it. Don't deny the intent.


in primary school relationships and family units are talked about taught and they are told what they are. When relationships and families of this kind exist including them would be the normal reasonable thing to do. Including all facts is just normal and what school is for deliberately choosing to exclude some is more likely to have an intent.
Reply 74
Original post by bobdidies
in primary school relationships and family units are talked about taught and they are told what they are. When relationships and families of this kind exist including them would be the normal reasonable thing to do. Including all facts is just normal and what school is for deliberately choosing to exclude some is more likely to have an intent.


It is not my intention to suggest that I think homosexual relationships are wrong. I just feel that parents who do feel that way, should not have a school teacher using the curriculum to teach contrary beliefs to their children. I have trouble believing that teachers will present such material as a simple statement of existence without promoting acceptance.

I dislike having this debate because in implies that I am anti-gay, and I'm emphatically not. My objection is a purely idealistic one in terms of where I think state education's boundaries should lie. Apply the same principle of having the existence of different religions taught in primary school (ages 5-11). I would find that much more concerning.
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Reply 75
Original post by ckingalt
It is not my intention to suggest that I think homosexual relationships are wrong. I just feel that parents who do feel that way, should not have a school teacher using the curriculum to teach contrary beliefs to their children. I have trouble believing that teachers will present such material as a simple statement of existence without promoting acceptance.

I dislike having this debate because in implies that I am anti-gay, and I'm emphatically not. My objection is a purely idealistic one in terms of where I think state education's boundaries should lie. Apply the same principle of having the existence of different religions taught in primary school (ages 5-11). I would find that much more concerning.


So you disagree that when talking about relationships and family units simply omitting the fact that homosexual ones exist and refusing to talk about them at all as though they are taboo is implying beliefs that it is wrong rather than just including it as a fact because it is a fact?
Reply 76
I would suggest that schools have no need to discuss relationships and family units at all. Those issues should be addressed at home by the child's parents.
Reply 77
Original post by ckingalt
I would suggest that schools have no need to discuss relationships and family units at all. Those issues should be addressed at home by the child's parents.


Foolish suggestion, since two major goals of primary school are to socialise the kids and ensure they are equipped with the most basic concepts to function in and learn about society. How are you going to do that without discussing family? And surely by your logic we can't teach English either, because some parents might prefer another their children to have something else as a primary language.

Contentious or not, basic facts about the world are fair game.
When I was at primary school, 'gay' was banded around as an insult, without anyone really know in what it meant. Perhaps it would be good for kids to actually learn what the word means.


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Reply 79
What would you suggest if you had children in your classes that came from homosexual families? Surely then, and especially if the child them self talked about the family that they lived in, you would have to talk about homosexual relationships because then it is relevant to the class. I believe it is relevant to the class anyway since you are likely to be in a class of thirty in which three of those pupils are LGBTQ+ and in the following few years will come to realise that they are different from their peers.

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