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Original post by fat_hobbit
No,
Experience mate.
I knew what I was doing,
Experience mate.
I knew what I was doing,
"I did nothing but be liked, I'm so skilled"
Original post by WGR
"I did nothing but be liked, I'm so skilled"
It's one thing a girl being attracted to you. It's another actually getting her.
I have been in situations where the girl has been attracted, only for the attraction to frizzle out. There is an element of 'game' involved. Once she is attracted you need to keep her interest level high, otherwise she will move onto the next man.
Doesn't mean anything that she likes you.
Original post by Bassetts
I know I come across as desperate on here, but in real life I'm not desperate. Anything but.
In real life, I come across like I don't care about anything. I'm quite emotionless and it looks like I'm happy doing my own thing, being independent and being on my own. I act disinterested with most things and it's extremely hard to tell if I'm enjoying something or not (even my own family find it hard to tell). I don't contact anyone. If anything, I'm the opposite of needy.
I don't think I lead an interesting life. I come across as I can lead a life without women and without people in general, but not an interesting life. My life consists of studying, going to the gym and going on my computer in my room. Not interesting, but I can lead it perfectly well without women, which I have done fine for the last 23 years of my life.
In real life, I come across like I don't care about anything. I'm quite emotionless and it looks like I'm happy doing my own thing, being independent and being on my own. I act disinterested with most things and it's extremely hard to tell if I'm enjoying something or not (even my own family find it hard to tell). I don't contact anyone. If anything, I'm the opposite of needy.
I don't think I lead an interesting life. I come across as I can lead a life without women and without people in general, but not an interesting life. My life consists of studying, going to the gym and going on my computer in my room. Not interesting, but I can lead it perfectly well without women, which I have done fine for the last 23 years of my life.
This is probably your biggest problem. If you seem so disinterested, how are you ever going to attract someone? Maybe you need to relinquish a bit of that independence and let your guard down, you more than likely come across too hard.
Original post by fat_hobbit
It's one thing a girl being attracted to you. It's another actually getting her.
I have been in situations where the girl has been attracted, only for the attraction to frizzle out. There is an element of 'game' involved. Once she is attracted you need to keep her interest level high, otherwise she will move onto the next man.
Doesn't mean anything that she likes you.
I have been in situations where the girl has been attracted, only for the attraction to frizzle out. There is an element of 'game' involved. Once she is attracted you need to keep her interest level high, otherwise she will move onto the next man.
Doesn't mean anything that she likes you.
You talk about girls playing games yet all you talk about is strategies and how to work girls over. You're a hypocrite.
WGR is right, you lucked out. These tricks only work on insecure girls with no substance yet you complain these are the only type of girls you seem to attract. If you just want to get laid then fair play but if you want a relationship it's not the way to go about it. Real women don't play games and won't be played either so as it is you're not going to get one by employing such tactics.
Original post by Nomes89
You make it sound like women don't . Its cause and effect.
Every guy has too.
They have to protect themselves from being played. Or get into a situation where they start overly investing and suffer from unrequited love.
She is not the only girl I talk to for your info. And I am pretty authentic with her for the most part.
(edited 10 years ago)
Original post by fat_hobbit
You make it sound like women don't . Its cause and effect.
Every guy has too.
They have to protect themselves from being played. Or get into a situation where they start overly investing and suffer from unrequited love.
She is not the only girl I talk to for your info. And I am pretty authentic with her for the most part.
Every guy has too.
They have to protect themselves from being played. Or get into a situation where they start overly investing and suffer from unrequited love.
She is not the only girl I talk to for your info. And I am pretty authentic with her for the most part.
I'm not saying women don't ever play games. Men do in equal measure. I think you'll find women play games to protect themselves from being played and used for sex as men place higher value on having sex than women do. Hence why you rarely find women looking to pull on a night out and why they tend to have higher standards as well. What you read as 'attention seeking' is actually an attempt to see how genuine a guy is and whether or not he's just playing nice to get sex. This is almost an exclusively male trait which is perhaps why you feel men are 'tested' more.
Original post by chocolatesauce
unfortunately the men are also programmed to only go for the girl caked in make up and fake hair extensions....
Yes, well, 90% of human beings are just bellends...
(edited 10 years ago)
Original post by JamesTheCool
Yes, well, 90% of human beings are just bellends...
yes, I agree
this forum reveals the truth about our desires:
http://puahate.com/forumdisplay.php?f=23
give it a look. I was shocked, everything they say is true, they describe exactly how I act.
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give it a look. I was shocked, everything they say is true, they describe exactly how I act.
Original post by Bassetts
I feel like I've missed the boat though. 
When I was 16/17 (end of year 11/lower sixth), I was invited to a few parties and I think that was my chance to get some good social experience. Unfortunately I never pushed myself. I am a quiet person naturally and I was also worried about how socialising could affect my work (my dad cares a lot about my academic performance and if I do badly, he gets very annoyed).
I didn't take up very many opportunities to socialise when I was 16/17, people started to view me as strange/weird, I got bullied etc.
Then at uni, I had a chance to make a fresh start around new people. But again there was something within me stopping me. I got jealous and hated being around all these clever, sociable, good looking people at uni who got sex and relationships easily. My confidence had been knocked hugely by bullying at school and I find it hard to trust people even now. It didn't help that I looked like a 12 year old little boy at the time (young for my age, but now I look close to my age).
Now I'm 23, final year of uni, I feel like I have definitely missed the boat. It becomes more difficult as you get older. Everyone has more social and sexual experience than you, people think you're weird if you haven't had a certain level of experience by now. Added to that, after uni I will need to get a job so that gives me less time and chance to socialise.
When I was 16/17 (end of year 11/lower sixth), I was invited to a few parties and I think that was my chance to get some good social experience. Unfortunately I never pushed myself. I am a quiet person naturally and I was also worried about how socialising could affect my work (my dad cares a lot about my academic performance and if I do badly, he gets very annoyed).I didn't take up very many opportunities to socialise when I was 16/17, people started to view me as strange/weird, I got bullied etc.
Then at uni, I had a chance to make a fresh start around new people. But again there was something within me stopping me. I got jealous and hated being around all these clever, sociable, good looking people at uni who got sex and relationships easily. My confidence had been knocked hugely by bullying at school and I find it hard to trust people even now. It didn't help that I looked like a 12 year old little boy at the time (young for my age, but now I look close to my age).
Now I'm 23, final year of uni, I feel like I have definitely missed the boat. It becomes more difficult as you get older. Everyone has more social and sexual experience than you, people think you're weird if you haven't had a certain level of experience by now. Added to that, after uni I will need to get a job so that gives me less time and chance to socialise.
You sound exactly like me (except I'm 21). I've never 'done' anything either, I'm average height, slim, and I also look annoyingly young for my age. You'd think looking younger is good, but not when you're in our age group. It's crap because it has a huge an impact on the way you're perceived. Your 'advanced' peers belittle and reject you, so essentially you spend your entire adolescence feeling confused and inadequate.
My relationship with human beings is generally not good and all throughout my life I've had horrible experiences with people every now and then (it's like a cycle that happens to me at least once a year). I believe I have social anxiety which varies quite broadly between people and how intimidating I find them. However, I don't feel at all comfortable in my own skin around the majority of people. Fortunately I have close friends and a nice, reliable social life at home (but of course, zero love-life).
Now that I'm at uni, I feel completely shunned and ostracised by the unholy majority of mature-looking/hench guys who seem to have the most fun (to make things worse I go to one of the sportiest universities in the country). Well, those captain-of-the-highschool-football-team players might be smug about their thunderously-good sex lives, but I personally think they're just a bunch of neanderthals who accomplish nothing other than the satisfaction of a very primitive, primal need. I also think the way social systems work (especially amongst young people, e.g. 'oh, I'll just pull weights -> go to that party -> show muscles off -> get laid') is infuriatingly reductionist and completely devoid of intelligence and open-mindedness. I thought people were more complex than that but it turns out that the majority of us are just grindheads who are only in it for the sex and the money...
You're still a young adult so I wouldn't worry too much. You have a good chunk of your life left to meet women. You're better off waiting for someone who you adore and who simultaneously mirrors your intelligence, even if it takes forever. Besides, relationships aren't always good for one's mental health. There's an excessive glorification of being in a relationship these days, but if you're unlucky (and incapable of saying no to people) you could end up having a family with the ugly cow. Now that would be a tragedy...
Besides, men supposedly get better-looking with age and women supposedly get worse, so it's women who have to worry, not you
Just remember that most people suck anyway.
(edited 10 years ago)
Do you know what? Do I give a damn if your hot if you act like an idiot? All I want is a kind loving guy, that's all. My friends have criticised me for my decision, however I don't want to marry someone because they are 'hot'. It's like getting Instagram because everyone else thinks it cool. You seem a really decent bloke who just is getting trodden on my some absolute dicks. If I was old enough, I'd go out with you . You are quite cute actually!
Original post by Sadteen2000
Do you know what? Do I give a damn if your hot if you act like an idiot? All I want is a kind loving guy, that's all. My friends have criticised me for my decision, however I don't want to marry someone because they are 'hot'. It's like getting Instagram because everyone else thinks it cool. You seem a really decent bloke who just is getting trodden on my some absolute dicks. If I was old enough, I'd go out with you í ½í¸. You are quite cute actually!
Marry him now ! Save him from this misery ! His fait lays in your hands women ! Let the challenge beginnnnnnnnn
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Right well you hardly know my age... xx
xxOriginal post by Anonymous
No doubt has this type of thread been made numerous times but after a really **** day I need to release some of this negative thinking i've been brooding about.
Im just a bit pissed off at how difficult life can be for an unattractive guy . Before you judge me know that im no bassets , I have a social life , I workout 3 x a week , I have multiple girls who are friends and I have actually made effort when it comes to girls ; only to have been rejected every time . Im not angry at women , naturally they are going to want to be with a man they can be proud of when out and about , naturally they are going to want to produce the best offspring etc so why would they get with a ugly guy ?
Im not shy in any way , people who know me would tell you I have the confidence of a boss , im very charismatic and you either love me or hate me . A lot of you will question why I made the thread if I am as confident as I say ; the reality is deep inside I know that im hideous looking , every time I walk past a mirror I feel a pang in my heart as I'm reminded what everyone else is looking at . It doesn't hold me back in the slightest , I have a tight unit of close friends who like me for who I am , I make friends with ease and Im generally a positive and easy going person but im really ugly .
The thing with being a guy is that your expected to be confident , secure and generally good with women . Being an ugly guy just leads you to a viscous circle which if your lucky enough will break one day but otherwise you will be in a dark pit for a lot of your life . If you fake confidence and make an attempt on a girl and she rejects you its not that bad , there's plenty other girls right ? But after hit after hit , you start to question whether your just universally unattractive , you develop huge insecurities etc consequently your even more unattractive and your worth even less in the eyes of women.
Im just a bit pissed off at how difficult life can be for an unattractive guy . Before you judge me know that im no bassets , I have a social life , I workout 3 x a week , I have multiple girls who are friends and I have actually made effort when it comes to girls ; only to have been rejected every time . Im not angry at women , naturally they are going to want to be with a man they can be proud of when out and about , naturally they are going to want to produce the best offspring etc so why would they get with a ugly guy ?
Im not shy in any way , people who know me would tell you I have the confidence of a boss , im very charismatic and you either love me or hate me . A lot of you will question why I made the thread if I am as confident as I say ; the reality is deep inside I know that im hideous looking , every time I walk past a mirror I feel a pang in my heart as I'm reminded what everyone else is looking at . It doesn't hold me back in the slightest , I have a tight unit of close friends who like me for who I am , I make friends with ease and Im generally a positive and easy going person but im really ugly .
The thing with being a guy is that your expected to be confident , secure and generally good with women . Being an ugly guy just leads you to a viscous circle which if your lucky enough will break one day but otherwise you will be in a dark pit for a lot of your life . If you fake confidence and make an attempt on a girl and she rejects you its not that bad , there's plenty other girls right ? But after hit after hit , you start to question whether your just universally unattractive , you develop huge insecurities etc consequently your even more unattractive and your worth even less in the eyes of women.
Why not just post a pic and ask us what you think? Just because you think you are doesn't mean everyone thinks so! Sure, you may feel out of the league of some girls but not all girls, surely?
And I don't get how ugliness is judged. I don't mean this in a cheesy way but I don't think anyone is ugly?! Okay it sounds cheesy. But I just don't have the heart to label someone as ugly? Like there must be SOMETHING that's attractive if not looks?
I wish I could grab you by your shoulders, shake you and tell you to stop putting yourself down!!!
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Most girls I know do go for the 'good looking guy', but there are other girls who are happy with anything they can lay their hands on (more of these people located in small towns, girl schools...). When it comes to others appearance seriously doesn't make a difference because either way they don't develop a crush.
Plus being an unattractive girl is worse because guys are far more shallow when it comes to 'inner beauty/personality' compared to women.
Plus being an unattractive girl is worse because guys are far more shallow when it comes to 'inner beauty/personality' compared to women.
I'm the very same OP who posted here such a long time ago . I apologize for resurrecting such an age old thread , but I was going through my bookmarks and stumbled upon this . Reading back what I wrote did bring up quite a few emotions.
I know many will most likely not be interested in how my circumstances have changed over the year but I will just give a short update.
I'm 18 now , turning 19 in december . I'm still a virgin , still haven't had a girlfriend or gotten any further with the opposite sex apart from a snogging a few girls in clubs
I now take care of myself much more and have been consistently working out for over a year , I have an awesome body if I do say so myself . Got a new haircut a while back and told it looks much better. i
Most importantly though , I'm much more happy and confident within my true self then when I was when I posted the OP . I've kind of accepted in life you have people that are really loveable and easily get into relationships and then you have ones that aren't . I've accepted one of the latter , I don't measure myself by my sexual exploits or whether I have emotional intimacy with a person. I'm single and enjoying my life . If I stumble across a girl who likes me in the future maybe I will give a **** again , but right now im just tired of the chase and everything involved.
Many thanks to all the advice I was given.
I thank you for your comments , really sincere . You don't know what I look like lol , but thanks.
Thanks for the comments lol , i'd send you a pic if you want but would never put it up on the internet.
I know many will most likely not be interested in how my circumstances have changed over the year but I will just give a short update.
I'm 18 now , turning 19 in december . I'm still a virgin , still haven't had a girlfriend or gotten any further with the opposite sex apart from a snogging a few girls in clubs
I now take care of myself much more and have been consistently working out for over a year , I have an awesome body if I do say so myself . Got a new haircut a while back and told it looks much better. i
Most importantly though , I'm much more happy and confident within my true self then when I was when I posted the OP . I've kind of accepted in life you have people that are really loveable and easily get into relationships and then you have ones that aren't . I've accepted one of the latter , I don't measure myself by my sexual exploits or whether I have emotional intimacy with a person. I'm single and enjoying my life . If I stumble across a girl who likes me in the future maybe I will give a **** again , but right now im just tired of the chase and everything involved.
Many thanks to all the advice I was given.
Original post by Sadteen2000
Do you know what? Do I give a damn if your hot if you act like an idiot? All I want is a kind loving guy, that's all. My friends have criticised me for my decision, however I don't want to marry someone because they are 'hot'. It's like getting Instagram because everyone else thinks it cool. You seem a really decent bloke who just is getting trodden on my some absolute dicks. If I was old enough, I'd go out with you ������. You are quite cute actually!
I thank you for your comments , really sincere . You don't know what I look like lol , but thanks.
Original post by alfresco_
Why not just post a pic and ask us what you think? Just because you think you are doesn't mean everyone thinks so! Sure, you may feel out of the league of some girls but not all girls, surely?
And I don't get how ugliness is judged. I don't mean this in a cheesy way but I don't think anyone is ugly?! Okay it sounds cheesy. But I just don't have the heart to label someone as ugly? Like there must be SOMETHING that's attractive if not looks?
I wish I could grab you by your shoulders, shake you and tell you to stop putting yourself down!!!
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And I don't get how ugliness is judged. I don't mean this in a cheesy way but I don't think anyone is ugly?! Okay it sounds cheesy. But I just don't have the heart to label someone as ugly? Like there must be SOMETHING that's attractive if not looks?
I wish I could grab you by your shoulders, shake you and tell you to stop putting yourself down!!!
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Thanks for the comments lol , i'd send you a pic if you want but would never put it up on the internet.
Thanks for updating, its great that you've been able to come back and show that you've made positive changes
We don't usually encourage ressurecting old threads, so what I'm going to do is close the thread here to avoid further responses and let it end on a high. If you want, you're welcome to make another thread about your experiences and the changes you've made if you think it would be beneficial to others.
We don't usually encourage ressurecting old threads, so what I'm going to do is close the thread here to avoid further responses and let it end on a high. If you want, you're welcome to make another thread about your experiences and the changes you've made if you think it would be beneficial to others.
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