Cropped dog UK?

We used to have one back when in the states where I grew up as a child and thinking of getting another one here, love their personality. Problem is I much prefer the cropped ears look and it seems there is a ban here. Tail not so bothered about but would rather have the breed's standard i.e cropped and docked.

How can I have one here like this? A vet would never do it here? Importing from America seems expensive, are there other places in europe where it's legal to do this like east europe?

edit-Just to add I have nothing against the natural look but it's unfortunate that the option to choose is gone here. In America most will buy the cropped/docked, hardly any naturals.

If you did manage to obtain one, it wouldn't be worth it. You'd be likely to receive a lot of direct criticism from people opposed to cutting/docking, and it's not unlikely you'd be reported to the RSPCA, which could end up with legal difficulties because you'd be indirectly responsible for putting the animal through the procedure. It doesn't seem worth it just for cosmetic preferences, maybe you should just learn to love the natural look

Thanks for the reply. It's quite expensive importing from the states but there are ones from east europe and even Ireland. I have to go and see the dog before hand obviously to ensure correct temperament. They will also provide the legal paperwork so RSPCA can't say anything, I got this from american forums. Most dobe lovers across the world like the traditional look so I think they would not criticize.

I don't like the natural look. It just isn't a Doberman, the dog was designed to be cropped and docked, it is also painless when done properly. It is the breed standard and you very rarely see one natural in America. In the dog shows you get penalised if it's natural.

There is only one thing that will stop be getting one like this, so any guidance on this from anyone would be appreciated! Does cropped/docked affect the dogs ability to communicate with other dogs? This concerns me as I want what's best for him

Personally I wouldn't go to the difficulty of importing one as it's going to cost you a lot more money and you will spend a lot more time picking the dog with travel etc. Having cropped/docked tails and ears won't affect the dogs behaviour as dogs communicate mentally via body language and energy. You could have a tiny little fluff ball of a dog but if it's not a stable dog it won't be able to communicate properly with dogs and you could have a stable pitbull that is stable and is fine.


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I saw a TV programme recently which suggested that many importation documents are forgeries and the dogs are actually UK bred, often in appalling conditions. As you're concerned about welfare, I guess you'd want to avoid irresponsible breeders and potentially illegal transactions. Also, if the documents are forged, it's a foregone conclusion that the pedigree would be suspect, and you could be buying a dog with unknown ailments in its bloodline. The standard advice is that you should insist on seeing the dog with its mother, which would involve travelling to Ireland or Eastern Europe, and even then you could still get conned. It may be possible to track down reputable breeders in those countries, but you'd have to do some investigating to find them.

Op id like to crop your ears if you dont mind?

Babies get circumcised.

It's how the Doberman was intended to be-it's also a painless procedure. Without the cropped/docked look, is it really a Doberman? As I said judges penalise the natural look in the states.

Check out these American Dobes, gorgeous! Natural can't compete.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rRJ6PrKtFU

I love the "flame" cropped style rather than the short one. Mine had a similar one.

Babies get circumcised.

It's how the Doberman was intended to be-it's also a painless procedure. Without the cropped/docked look, is it really a Doberman? As I said judges penalise the natural look in the states.

Check out these American Dobes, gorgeous! Natural can't compete.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rRJ6PrKtFU

I love the "flame" cropped style rather than the short one. Mine had a similar one.

A lot of people think babies shouldn't get circumcised, me included.
And with the cropped/docked look, it's only 99% a Doberman, because you chopped 1% off

There's so much wrong with the points you made I can't even be bothered to type them all out.

Then why isn't it banned in the states then? The greatest democracy and advanced country. An international police as Cheney once termed it.

Please grow up. I am not one of those individuals saying ban all natural dobes or hating on them. I am saying the option to do either should exist. Pretty much every dobe is cropped elsewhere.

So if something is not banned in the states, then that makes it suddenly good? Huh...

You have to think it's the greatest democracy

Nope. I really don't. It's one of the worst.