Sexism is a daily reality for girls

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Real talk, I blame white knights for putting women on pedestals

People like you and him are just bitter and twisted that you don't have the confidence and/ or looks to attract a girl that you deem physically appealing enough for you.

You expect girls just to drop at your feet, and when they don't you cry, and then get all bitter and try to comfort yourself by telling yourselves that girls are just these vain creatures who don't consider boys with less than movie star looks.

When actual psychological studies have shown that girls rate themselves lower compared to men, and are more likely to partner up with a man less attractive than themselves.
What is very unattractive in men however, is very low-self esteem and a weak 'poor me I'm ugly demeanour'. Sort yourself out.

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Reply 21

ThatPerson

Original post by rhiam

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-25138455

"87% (or girls) thought women were judged more on their appearance than their ability"

"More than a third (36%) of all those surveyed had felt "patronised or made to feel stupid" because of their gender, rising to 60% of the 16 to 21-year-olds."

"Most of the 13-year-olds questioned said they had experienced sexual harassment, rising to 80% of 19 to 21-year-olds."

"Some 46% of the 11 to 21-year-olds said they feared having children would damage their careers. Most of the 16 to 21-year-olds worried some employers may to some extent prefer to hire men."

so do you want to talk to me about female privilege?

This is a survey about female perceptions of sexism. You cannot generalise this to "sexism is a daily reality for girls". This is also a survey of 11-21 year old's. People's views change dramatically in this age group, and some of the younger people may have false perceptions about society.

Your final point is about employers and having children. How likely is it, that a cohort comprising of 11-21 year olds will know a lot about both of those topics?

If you want to make a pointless confrontational thread like this, at least take the time to find a reputable source.

Reply 22

shiggydiggy

Original post by ArtGoblin

87% of girls are idiots or imagining things?

To be fair, many women equate not being given special treatment to sexism.

Reply 23

can'tbeleftblank

Original post by PoliticalMan14

Well consider the fact women think 55 percent of men are "ugly"

It's awful for both genders. All the boys in my year, the first question they ask when we talk about a girl 'is she fit?'. In my experience it hasn't been girls that are as looks-orientated when choosing who they fancy, but it might just be me. I'm certainly not.

Reply 24

ThatPerson

Original post by ArtGoblin

87% of girls are idiots or imagining things?

This is not "87% of all girls". This is "87% of approximately 1200 girls". They aren't the same thing.

Reply 25

PoliticalMan14

Original post by pandabird

That is a pretty big assumption to make considering you know nothing about me

Reply 26

pandabird

Original post by snowyowl

How can you say "so?" to these points in particular? Especially the sexual harassment one? Most 13-year-olds in the survey experienced sexual harassment and all you can say to that is "so"? 80% of 19 to 21-year-olds in the survey experienced sexual harassment and all you can say to that is "so"?

Are you for real?

Because it's easier for weak-minded people to hide away from reality and disregard it so they haven't got to face up to anything unpleasant that doesn't concern them.

Reply 27

ArtGoblin

Original post by shiggydiggy

To be fair, many women equate not being given special treatment to sexism.

Being sexually harassed is special treatment? What about being belittled because of your gender? Having to worry that having a child will damage your career? I suppose that's special treatment as well.

Reply 28

Eva.Gregoria

Original post by ArtGoblin

87% of girls are idiots or imagining things?

Thank you. I was just about to say that.

Points back to the survey where a lot of women were made to feel stupid.

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Reply 29

pandabird

Original post by PoliticalMan14

That is a pretty big assumption to make considering you know nothing about me

Well that's the only logical conclusion I can come up with that explains such an irrational and unjustified thought process.

You're honestly no better than the type of girls who say 'all guys care about is tits blah blah blah'.

Reply 30

Eva.Gregoria

Original post by ThatPerson

This is not "87% of all girls". This is "87% of approximately 1200 girls". They aren't the same thing.

Are we automatically disregarding 87% of 1200 women as idiots then?

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Reply 31

ArtGoblin

Original post by ThatPerson

This is not "87% of all girls". This is "87% of approximately 1200 girls". They aren't the same thing.

Surveys work like this: you take a sample of a population, you collect data from them and then you use this information to generalise what the rest of the population thinks. If you didn't do this, most social work would be too expensive to conduct so you would never find out anything about the society we live in.

Reply 32

sugar-n-spice

Original post by rhiam

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-25138455

"87% (or girls) thought women were judged more on their appearance than their ability"

I feel =/= this is true, secondly men are judged on other things such as their level of success and social standing

"More than a third (36%) of all those surveyed had felt "patronised or made to feel stupid" because of their gender, rising to 60% of the 16 to 21-year-olds."

Same as before, and again maybe men feel they are trusted less because of their sex-even I admit if I had children I would honestly trust a girl babysitter more than a boy one

"Most of the 13-year-olds questioned said they had experienced sexual harassment, rising to 80% of 19 to 21-year-olds."

Define sexual harassment. Men are objectified and groped and most don't even see it as harassment despite the fact that that's what it is

"Some 46% of the 11 to 21-year-olds said they feared having children would damage their careers. Most of the 16 to 21-year-olds worried some employers may to some extent prefer to hire men."

This could be solved if the female privilege of materinity leave was completely equal to paternity or if it was pooled and the couple could choose

so do you want to talk to me about female privilege?

Move to Saudi Arabia if you want to have relevance

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Reply 33

sugar-n-spice

Original post by rhiam

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-25138455

"87% (or girls) thought women were judged more on their appearance than their ability"

I feel =/= this is true, secondly men are judged on other things such as their level of success and social standing

"More than a third (36%) of all those surveyed had felt "patronised or made to feel stupid" because of their gender, rising to 60% of the 16 to 21-year-olds."

Same as before, and again maybe men feel they are trusted less because of their sex-even I admit if I had children I would honestly trust a girl babysitter more than a boy one

"Most of the 13-year-olds questioned said they had experienced sexual harassment, rising to 80% of 19 to 21-year-olds."

Define sexual harassment. Men are objectified and groped and most don't even see it as harassment despite the fact that that's what it is

"Some 46% of the 11 to 21-year-olds said they feared having children would damage their careers. Most of the 16 to 21-year-olds worried some employers may to some extent prefer to hire men."

This could be solved if the female privilege of materinity leave was completely equal to paternity leave or if it was pooled and the couple could choose

so do you want to talk to me about female privilege?

Move to Saudi Arabia if you want to have relevance

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Reply 34

PoliticalMan14

Original post by pandabird

Well your logic is flawed, also only narrow minded people make personal insults.

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Reply 35

PoliticalMan14

Original post by pandabird

Well your logic is flawed, also only narrow minded people make personal insults.

Reply 36

shiggydiggy

Original post by ArtGoblin

Except that's not what I said though, is it?

Reply 37

Gjaykay

Original post by snowyowl

Erm, guys experience sexual harassment, from the second they start puberty. They're bombed with images of women, pressure from other guys when they're around 12-14 to get their first handjob, blowjob, ect. If they don't they get picked on and bullied. Then there is the pressure to have sex, all combined with the fact that women are checking them out, and sexually harassing them. The fact that porn is everywhere and guys have a ridiculous ideal to live up to, with bodybuilder types kicking around. Guys become the butt of women's jokes, and are often compared to other guys. At the workplace, guys are sexual harassed, especially if said guy is gay - then it becomes a whole different thing. Women bosses checking out younger guys and making sexual jokes - guys just don't call it sexual harassment because of the way society has brought us up to accept it.

Once again, I ask you.....so? Guys get all of the harassment, peer pressure, bullying, ect that girls get. In what way is any of that sexism if it happens to both the sexes? I didn't mean for this to be a rant, and it's not an attack on you, but guys are sexually harassed the same amount, if not more, throughout their lives than women.

Original post by can'tbeleftblank

So do ugly girls... :frown:

, it's horrible when I hear my friend say about someone, 'she's really nice! But, unfortunately, really ugly so I wouldn't't want to talk to her again'. As though being ugly makes you less human, pfft, I feel so sorry for those deemed genuinely 'ugly' because there's that stupid, untrue generalisation being perpetuated by our looks-obsessed society.

I've never met an ugly lassie before, everyone has something special about them I like. But I do realise that's just me ><

Reply 38

The_Internet

Original post by Blueray2

I open doors for anyone that is behind me and they like it as a sign of respect, never had a girl say its sexist :lol:

If anything, more gentleman like :biggrin:

Same and I'd open a door for any one/carry bags for people, guy or woman. It's just polite really, and to be expected imo

Maybe the bag thing isn't to be expected, but the door thing is

Reply 39

Gjaykay

Original post by pandabird

Because it's easier for weak-minded people to hide away from reality and disregard it so they haven't got to face up to anything unpleasant that doesn't concern them.