Imperail college London has been accused of Animal Cruelty

I can't helping it might be a smear campaign against Imperial, especially at this time when students are making their choices.

The way the animals were treated probably was as they reported but how did the reporters manage to go undercover?

What I would like to know is which other universities did they target for this investigtion? There certainly was no mention of other institutions conducting research correctly or otherwise.

Possibly , but for what motive ?


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There's a bedraggled little group of anti-vivisectionists who protest outside the Oxford labs all the time. You have to admire them standing up for what they believe in, but so much good comes out of Oxford University, and there are so many proper channels this could go through (why, for example, is not a single one of the protestors a trained scientist or academic) that I find it hard to sympathise.

That said, it's hard to know the exact nature of the failings from the BBC article. If it's true about the lack of anaesthetic then that's cruel and should be rectified.

To be completely honest, as long as the research benefits humanity, I don't care. I have no compassion whatsoever for the lab rats.

Like most people in teh world. I don't care.

But I'm sure a vocal minority will make up for the majorities apathy.

And secondly. Testing on animals is absolutely vital.

Steps should be taken to reduce animal suffering where possible, but not at the expense of humanity.

I'm with you on this, MatureStudent36!! No matter how hard I try, I just can't even raise an eyebrow at this issue.....

The minority will be SO shocked at us!!

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I see no problem with this.

If you are against animal testing but are happy to benefit from it that is practically the dictionary definition of hypocritical.

Would you be willing to ban all animal testing? If yes, you'd lose your drugs anyway, if no, then you're not really against animal testing.

You don't have to think it's brilliant but if you think it's necessary then you're not against it, you just view it as a necessary evil.

No, but implicit in being against animal testing is the idea that it is unacceptable to put human life above animal life. Your actions are saying something that is in contradiction to your words.

it's this sort of organising into 'humans' and 'non humans' that has been used throughout the entire of human history to get away with inflicting suffering, animal cruelty is no worse than human cruelty whether or not it yields results (ironic as well as I bet most of you would uphold the rule of law in regards to human torture not being used in national security situations).

Rats are alive creatures as well, why should they suffer to benefit you? Why can't you be a testing tool, I'm sure you would benefit humanity much more than suffering rats.

Because they are rats, disease-ridden filth. I prioritise humans over other animals, and so I have no qualms about using animals to benefit humans.

I think that humans as a race can be so arrogant and presumptuous. If these rats were tested on without proper pain relief then that is completely unexcusable- they can feel pain and distress so if we can reduce this suffering (which we CAN) then we should.
I am not saying we can ban all animal testing at the moment- unfortunately there is no real alternative and I accept it as a necessary evil.

Humanity is much more worse than few rodents.. People pollute air by releasing their gas, litter everywhere, consume more than they need, kill innocent animals, destroy nature etc.

We even destroy animal's habitats, yet we are the ones that matter the most...

Obviously. Humans are superior to other creatures.

No-one likes a pedant.

Racists see no problem with racism.

Don't worry.

I disagree.

I don't see how this is relevant.

You are discriminating on irrelevant grounds. Just like people like Hitler did. He did not see any problem with the mistreatment of groups he considered inferior. Just like you.

Did you really just compare me to Hitler? (yes, deal with it)

Replace humanity for white race and you just became Hitler. Well done.