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Original post by Durham Medical School & Medlink Support
Many people who do things like Gap Medic make a real sacrifice (or their family does), to fund the experience. So there is no assumption of privilege. What really counts is your ability to communicate the experience both via your personal statement and in an interview. Very important to show what you gave to those who you spent your gap time with and secondly what they gave you, how the experience changed you and made you a person of more depth and experience and a more likely future doctor. Given that nearly everyone applying is the same age, background, experience etc it is really important to consider anything that will make you standout.


First of all medical schools do not look favorably on things like gap medics they do infact actively ignore it and I know this from talking to the admissions staff. It doesn't show anything about you other than that your parents have a few grand to spare. You would get more valuable work experience for free in the UK. Also they don't want applications that stand out they want applications that tick their score sheet boxes.

Original post by Durham Medical School & Medlink Support
We disagree, it is never a waste of time meeting and interacting with real people who share your hopes and goals. Facts can be gained from the internet and there is probably not a fact taught in medical school that cannot be found online. But there are no online medical schools. The patients that people meet at Medlink and Medsim, their symptoms can be found online, but patients are more than symptoms and an internet search and meeting with them in person is not a waste. Durham Medical School, Bristol Medical School, The Royal College of Surgeons, the BMA and Lord Robert Winston, to name a few would not agree that they wasted students time and money and we are sorry to read that you think that we did. You are correct a Google search from your bedroom will give you, for example, details of Lord Winston and for you that might be enough, but please allow there are some who want to hear him live who want to meet him and ask him direct questions and the same is true for students interactions with the rest of us. We think it is great that you have offered to help others from your computer, but please allow that those of us who attended Medlink can help also by talking face to face.


Robert Winston may be great (I myself am still traumatized from a video we watched about his sperm at school) but he is not worth hundreds of pounds. What you do is solely for profit and the only people it benefits are those that are too lazy to research it for themselves. To be honest there's way more insight into the application system on here than you can stick in your silly conference. I managed four offers without wasting my money and christmas with you guys and I would advise applicants to consider what else they can spend their money on because I've never heard a single person say medlink helped their application.
Original post by Hippokrates
First of all medical schools do not look favorably on things like gap medics they do infact actively ignore it and I know this from talking to the admissions staff. It doesn't show anything about you other than that your parents have a few grand to spare. You would get more valuable work experience for free in the UK. Also they don't want applications that stand out they want applications that tick their score sheet boxes.



Robert Winston may be great (I myself am still traumatized from a video we watched about his sperm at school) but he is not worth hundreds of pounds. What you do is solely for profit and the only people it benefits are those that are too lazy to research it for themselves. To be honest there's way more insight into the application system on here than you can stick in your silly conference. I managed four offers without wasting my money and christmas with you guys and I would advise applicants to consider what else they can spend their money on because I've never heard a single person say medlink helped their application.


I paid over £200 for a motivational pep talk, a few lectures from different specialists and a rubbish CD.....complete moneymaking farce and hasn't helped me in the slightest! It's a great business model, take advantage of people who desperately want something!


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Original post by Hippokrates
First of all medical schools do not look favorably on things like gap medics they do infact actively ignore it and I know this from talking to the admissions staff.


Agreed - at least at a few universities, anyway.
I took a gap year and had mentioned my (self-funded, non-Gap Medic / let's try to save the world) travel plans and got asked at my interviews "Have you organised this yourself or is it a company-run thing?"
Could tell they were a little bit cynical (to say the least) at paying a company to organise work experience abroad..
Original post by TattyBoJangles
Agreed - at least at a few universities, anyway.
I took a gap year and had mentioned my (self-funded, non-Gap Medic / let's try to save the world) travel plans and got asked at my interviews "Have you organised this yourself or is it a company-run thing?"
Could tell they were a little bit cynical (to say the least) at paying a company to organise work experience abroad..


At least you self funded
Original post by Hippokrates
At least you self funded


It was only travel plans, not work experience.
I'm not sure if they were more dubious about who organised it or what I was doing.
Original post by Hippokrates
First of all medical schools do not look favorably on things like gap medics they do infact actively ignore it and I know this from talking to the admissions staff. It doesn't show anything about you other than that your parents have a few grand to spare. You would get more valuable work experience for free in the UK. Also they don't want applications that stand out they want applications that tick their score sheet boxes.

Hi Nicola sorry we are taking so long to get back to you, please do not think us rude :smile: At the moment we are waiting replies back from our contacts at some of the medical schools. We have forwarded your comments to them so that we can identify who feels as you describe and then advise students accordingly, so thanks for bringing it to our attention. You could help us speed up the checking process by private messaging us with the names of the medical schools that have told you the above. We would also like to extend an invitation to you. Medlink engages in charity work from the UK to Africa, we are producing information from web-sites to free courses and free text books for everyone whether they attend an event or not, but we seem to be poor at explaining this:confused:. Some of the team are on the campus at Nottingham and we would welcome the chance to meet with you over coffee and explain what we do. In the meantime if you give us an email address we will send you details of the free guide to medical school that we are putting together (we hope to get it to thousands), you might want to be involved.
Original post by callummj6747
I paid over £200 for a motivational pep talk, a few lectures from different specialists and a rubbish CD.....complete moneymaking farce and hasn't helped me in the slightest! It's a great business model, take advantage of people who desperately want something!


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Hi we are very sorry that was your experience. We know from feedback that most students get a great deal from personally meeting other students, living on a campus interacting live with patients, talking with medical schools, doctors etc. Many who obtain information online sometimes require more support to do the same with a live event, so it is up to us to try harder, so we apologize to you if we did not get it right for you whatever the reason. Please get in touch with us at [email protected] as we can learn from your experience to improve things and at the same time find out how we can help you personally.
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Hi folks back with a first update direct from the Admissions dept at Nottingham Medical school on the important question of 'what do the medical schools look for. Nottingham like all medical schools have a minimum which you should achieve, but what about beyond the ticking of boxes? Well our contact in the admissions department at Nottingham is very clear and here is a quote: "Applicants should complete their personal statements to the best of their ability, including their motivation and how this desire to study medicine has evolved through work experiences and other experiences. They should also include their achievements other than academic and all activities they are currently participating in. This is their opportunity to tell us about themselves and what they have/are doing at present." So a clear message, gain experience, but show HOW that experience helps you to medicine. They also say it is not necessary to go abroad but state: "If applicants want to take advantage of traveling abroad for work experience then they can but they must have obtained experience in the UK as well." So no medals for going abroad but is not frowned upon, the key is to integrate into your personal statement. We had invited our contact at Nottingham medical school to view the contents of the thread and we will do the same via contacts at other medical school admission departments. But futher updates will go on our Medfaxx site. If we cannot answer your questions we will bring the medical schools to the thread wherever possible so they can read and help us reply.
The Medlink Spotify playlist is up and running - yes:smile: Thanks for suggesting the tracks that inspired you to study and keep going, just a few edges to sort so will give you the link tomorrow!!!!
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Hi guys thanks so much for sending in the songs that motivate and inspire you. We have collected them together and will continue to add to them in the FREE Medlink Spotify playlist.

We believe a Good Song can help you be happier, run faster, think clearer, and focus better.

We believe for every great moment, there is a song that goes with it, so jump to http://medlink-uk.net/connect/ and listen to what inspires people as they prep for Medical School. Please feel free to review the Medlink music offering and make suggestions of your own.
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Medlink has produced a mini-website for anyone who wishes to work with their friends to do research and have their work published. We will give you FREE support do do your research, even if you did not go to Medlink. Work with friends or if you wish use our FREE support to help you with your Extended Essay or Baccalaureate. There are lots of reasons to take this opportunity, but the best reason is to do this work for yourself, expand your horizons and acquire and master some supberb research tools and skills along the way, most of all enjoy the challenge.: http://medlink-uk.net/myresearch/
What is the importance of extracurricular activities when applying for Medicine? I know work experience is essential but what else should be done?
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Original post by Purple_1234
What is the importance of extracurricular activities when applying for Medicine? I know work experience is essential but what else should be done?

Extracurricular like playing an instrument to grade 6 or above or playing a sport at state level is good. It shows commitment, teamwork and leadership. I think universities are more likely to give you a place if you're really good as well because they want you to play for their team.
Original post by Purple_1234
What is the importance of extracurricular activities when applying for Medicine? I know work experience is essential but what else should be done?


What sort of extracurriculars are we talking? Ones that show the qualities Medical schools are looking for (voluntary work, interpersonal skills) or hobbies?
There's no need to put a massive emphasis on the latter, but the former are quite important.

Original post by niki981
Extracurricular like playing an instrument to grade 6 or above or playing a sport at state level is good. It shows commitment, teamwork and leadership. I think universities are more likely to give you a place if you're really good as well because they want you to play for their team.


I haven't done sport since approximately October 2010.
Hi there. Durham Medical school looks very closely at your extracurricular activities. There are very many applicants with high grades so we look deeper. There really is a key to success here and it is less about the specific activity and more about how you can show that activity brings something to your application. For example have you done work that contributes to your local community? this can be as simple as organizing a clean-up of a local park. If you play an instrument to a a reasonable level this shows a willingness to apply yourself, working as part of a band or orchestra is even better. If you play for team put emphasis on the team-work, if a captain indicate your leadership. Central is for you to point-out very loud and clear the benefit of your activity. There is no secret list of activities, but every activity should be paired with a benefit that will make you a better doctor, so from the above we have: community orientated, dedicated, team player and a leader.
The Medlink Team would back Durham, everyone has their favorite activity and we would welcome some ideas from anyone reading as to what their activities would include, so for us the key take-away point from the above is: 'every activity should be paired with a benefit that will make you a better doctor,'.
Original post by niki981
Extracurricular like playing an instrument to grade 6 or above or playing a sport at state level is good. It shows commitment, teamwork and leadership. I think universities are more likely to give you a place if you're really good as well because they want you to play for their team.


The fact that you play something, do something or have experience working in a care home etc. means nothing UNLESS you can demonstrate what you learnt from that experience or can show your skills during interview. I highly doubt any university will let you into medical school because they want you play your instrument for them.

I agree with the others regarding the usefulness (or lack thereof) of medlink, I managed pretty well without medlink. Interestingly the majority of my colleagues who attended the course did not manage to secure a place in medicine. It was pushed on us like a compulsory part of the medicine application by our school...my non-attendance was actually taken as a lack of motivation on my part!

The points about the opportunity to see real patients are absolutely not valid. You can see actual patients in care homes and in hospitals and will probably learn a lot more about patients' experience and how medicine fits into the picture during work experience.

If anything, I feel reading comments of other students that this course is actually creating unrealistic expectations about what to expect in medicine. It glosses over the realistic details of what a career in medicine actually entails. Put these guys shadowing an F1 in a medicine/surgery ward...I think it might be more useful.

Original post by SusannedeVrijer
It would be an absolutely fantastic opportunity to give a guest post. Of course I want to do it! :smile: I may have some time to write it over the next couple of weeks, if this is ok? Would you like me to focus on why I am interested in neonatology, or something more medical- for example, a specific complication that can arise in neonates?

Thank you for your kind help.
Susanne de Vrijer


You are obviously passionate about working in neonatology but don't close yourself to other specialities. Perhaps after exploring neonatology during medical school you will have a totally different perspective on it. This is too early to commit yourself to anything. You need to actually work in the speciality before you can know about the sort of work you're gonna do day in day out!

Having now reread the advice about publications via medlink. Being published in a non-pubmed listed journal that publishes things written totally by A-level students will confer no advantage to your application or in your career.
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Original post by Hydromancer
The fact that you play something, do something or have experience working in a care home etc. means nothing UNLESS you can demonstrate what you learnt from that experience or can show your skills during interview. I highly doubt any university will let you into medical school because they want you play your instrument for them.

I agree with the others regarding the usefulness (or lack thereof) of medlink,
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Hi Medlink is only of value to those who attended, we would imagine that you would have gained some value if you had. For a 'good' student everything is of value. Meeting with patients in any situation can be useful, can some situations be more useful than others? Yes of course but we are not talking either or, but doing as much as you can. You are of course entitled to an opinion on an event you never attended, but really your thoughts and advice would be more useful for the things that you have actually done:smile:. So what did you actually do that helped you and might help others? Really that is the point of the thread - to help people based on our own knowledge and experience. So please share yours we honestly would like to read it.
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Original post by Hydromancer
The fact that you play something, do something or have experience working in a care home etc. means nothing UNLESS you can demonstrate what you learnt from that experience or can show your skills during interview. I highly doubt any university will let you into medical school because they want you play your instrument for them.

I agree with the others regarding the usefulness (or lack thereof) of medlink,
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Hi Medlink is only of value to those who attended, we would imagine that you would have gained some value if you had. For a 'good' student everything is of value. Meeting with patients in any situation can be useful, can some situations be more useful than others? Yes of course but we are not talking either or, but doing as much as you can. You are of course entitled to an opinion on an event you never attended, but really your thoughts and advice would be more useful for the things that you have actually done:smile:. So what did you actually do that helped you and might help others? Really that is the point of the thread - to help people based on our own knowledge and experience. So please share yours we honestly would like to read it.


Sorry I based my opinions on the programme you have on your website. My comments are based on my understanding of how interview processes at medical schools work. The more the merrier doesn't apply to experience...it's what you learn from it!

My advice to potential candidates
-Do work experience/volunteer
-Get the grades
-Get involved in extra-curricular activities that interest you
-Prepare your application in a timely manner so that you can tick all the boxes regarding entrance tests and skills described on the website of almost every university/this forum (medicine has more tickboxes than you can imagine)

If you looking for a magical solution where you can get in without doing the hard graft or not targeting your application to the procedure, I hate to tell you that there isn't one.
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I wouldn't at all thought it would be worth the money - especially when you consider a site like TSR, where there are tonnes of resources, medical students and doctors that you can speak to, admissions guidance, profiles etc ALL FOR FREE. Not to mention the fact that TSR is just one site. Sure, you can't put "I looked on TSR" on your personal statement, but I'm not sure if I see the value in saying "I used daddy's credit card to be spoonfed motivation and admissions guidance" on your personal statement, either. All it says is I had enough money to go - in a kind of 'Pony Club' kind of way :rolleyes: I haven't been on medlink. From those I know who did/have, most say that it was fun but not particularly useful.You have free seminars across the country anyway, open days, work experience, books, blogs... :colonhash:
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Original post by Samfaya
Hello! I went to the Dentistry course at the same time as Medlink and it was unbelievably useful, especially Mr James Ridgeway and his Edge talk, so a massive, massive thank you to anyone who organised it or talked during it! I have a few questions, however. Firstly, at the UKCAT talk we were told that we were going to be emailed practice questions but I haven't received anything..? Also, I can't seem to find the links Mr Ridgeway told us would be on the a Medlink site, but I believe that's a problem from my side bc I cannot navigate the website, so a link would be brilliant, if possible.. Lastly, where could I find Mr Ridgeway's contact details? I'd love to email him some questions and stay in touch!

Thanks!
Sara


Hi Sarah, I cannot find a reply to you from the Team, so I will answer. First really sorry for the delay. Delighted that the conference helped. Re the newsletter I will ask the staff to resend to all who did not open. Possibilities are our stuff landed in your spam (please check) or for some weird reason you are not on the list. If you have had no emails and nothing in spam back to us here and we will fix things for you. James has been in the States but he is putting together the free book and course promised,so expect details within the week. We asked him not to reply to emails and so removed links because we wanted him to reply to questions online so that as many people possible could be helped by the answers. His hangout place will be going out in the newsletters very soon. Hope that helps Sara :smile:

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