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Carr Saunders Halls, LSE
London School of Economics
London

I hate LSE

Currently half way through my third year, and I must say, looking back at my time here it was completely ****.

The people you meet here are either privately educated, international or so out of touch with reality. I don't even bother socializing with the people here because they're all annoying. The international students are cliquey and like to stick together, and every other student seems to get a boner over the fact that they're at LSE.

Everyone is rock solid over investment banking or any other soulless career in finance, even if they don't do economics. The library is **** and there's no reading week. The uni is a shambles. I can't wait to graduate and get the hell out of this **** hole.

Anyone else in the same boat?

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Reply 1
1. Private educated, international, out of touch with reality
The majority of people are like this, but there are some positives for example i don't there's anything wrong with making friends with international people. I find it really great learning about where they've come from or whatnot and its great if you wanna go travelling and you know someone who lives in a certain country.

You're right in the sense that there are cliques. When i first came, it was almost like watching something out of an typical american high school film and cliques had formed within the first couple of weeks of uni. But i just think that the majority of people at LSE are a bit socially awkward, out of no fault of their own, so you have to work harder to get to know people. ultimately (i like to think) everyone's really friendly but a lot feel like they have something to prove (or try to be 'cool' which sometimes means being absolute dickheads) so won't be friendly from the outset..[as i write this even im doubting what im saying]. there are cool people you just need to give people a chance.

As for the finance thing, there's nothing wrong with wanting a career in finance and its not really soulless. And if you don't want to go into finance you don't have to. but given that it is a uni with a heavy focus on finance, business and econ what did you expect coming here.

tbf, as with everything you have said, you must have expected this coming to LSE. A lot of people complain about LSE and about its stereotype - where everynpe is unsocialbe and everyone just wants to get into finance. But you expected this? If you wanted a really good uni life you wouldn't have come to LSE. You come because its the easiest way to get a wicked job, that will essentially set you up for life. There are loaads of aweomse people as well, by not bothering to socialise with people you're kind of fulfilling this 'LSE stereotype'.
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Carr Saunders Halls, LSE
London School of Economics
London
Reply 2
You can probably tell that i'm conflicted about the LSE situation as well haha. sometimes i consider dropping out like some of my firends have done. or even taking a second bachelors at a 'funner' uni..
Reply 3
Original post by lar di da
1. Private educated, international, out of touch with reality
tbf, as with everything you have said, you must have expected this coming to LSE. A lot of people complain about LSE and about its stereotype - where everynpe is unsocialbe and everyone just wants to get into finance. But you expected this? If you wanted a really good uni life you wouldn't have come to LSE. You come because its the easiest way to get a wicked job, that will essentially set you up for life. There are loaads of aweomse people as well, by not bothering to socialise with people you're kind of fulfilling this 'LSE stereotype'.


Don't take my post in the wrong way, I mean I have a great social life outside of university so I don't really need to be active in terms of socializing with the idiots we have here, and you're right, it was kind of expected. I'm basically just here for the name. But just being here for three years, I've kind of seen how the stereotypes are not just stereotypes. Its real. lol


Original post by lar di da
You can probably tell that i'm conflicted about the LSE situation as well haha. sometimes i consider dropping out like some of my firends have done. or even taking a second bachelors at a 'funner' uni..

Do you not like the uni as well then? lol

I'm hoping someone from the LSE entry thread sees this and it puts them off :wink:
Original post by little_tom
Don't take my post in the wrong way, I mean I have a great social life outside of university so I don't really need to be active in terms of socializing with the idiots we have here, and you're right, it was kind of expected. I'm basically just here for the name. But just being here for three years, I've kind of seen how the stereotypes are not just stereotypes. Its real. lol



Do you not like the uni as well then? lol

I'm hoping someone from the LSE entry thread sees this and it puts them off :wink:

I assume you would recommend me to accept the Cambridge offer over LSE?
I'm trying to decide which I would choose....
Reply 5
This is why I chose Bristol over UCL. Went for a pre-offer open day and I just saw so many little groups of oriental asians. The south asians as well but they were mostly on their own banging out their books.

Tbh though I'd get a boner if I was going to LSE. That's the next best thing after Oxbridge. Intellectual snobbery. :sogood:
Original post by Basiji
This is why I chose Bristol over UCL. Went for a pre-offer open day and I just saw so many little groups of oriental asians. The south asians as well but they were mostly on their own banging out their books.

Tbh though I'd get a boner if I was going to LSE. That's the next best thing after Oxbridge. Intellectual snobbery. :sogood:


UCL is the more fun version of LSE, so if you thought cliques were bad there then you wouldn't enjoy LSE


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Reply 7
Original post by Interstellar
UCL is the more fun version of LSE, so if you thought cliques were bad there then you wouldn't enjoy LSE


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Thanks for the heads up but how do you know this? You go to UCL?
Original post by Basiji
Thanks for the heads up but how do you know this? You go to UCL?


No, but I've visited both and could immediately notice a social difference. I've had friends at both UCL and LSE and when I visited, my LSE friend really hated the 'cliquiness' of the uni, whereas UCL buddy was over the moon with the atmosphere.


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Reply 9
You get these kinds in majority of the good unis. I go to liverpool uni, while not as good a uni as yours, I've encountered similar problems. Although I did get a group of friends and we're pretty accepting of other people. But damn you can actually see a drama in what's happening with other peoples lives though.

Internationals annoy me a lot too. Lived with them in second year. They were so damn dirty man.
Original post by little_tom
Don't take my post in the wrong way, I mean I have a great social life outside of university so I don't really need to be active in terms of socializing with the idiots we have here, and you're right, it was kind of expected. I'm basically just here for the name. But just being here for three years, I've kind of seen how the stereotypes are not just stereotypes. Its real. lol



Do you not like the uni as well then? lol

I'm hoping someone from the LSE entry thread sees this and it puts them off :wink:


Your hopes have come true :frown: But I know some people (nice people) who have loved the LSE, surely your experience somewhere is subjective?
Reply 11
Original post by bammy jastard 27
You get these kinds in majority of the good unis. I go to liverpool uni, while not as good a uni as yours, I've encountered similar problems. Although I did get a group of friends and we're pretty accepting of other people. But damn you can actually see a drama in what's happening with other peoples lives though.

Internationals annoy me a lot too. Lived with them in second year. They were so damn dirty man.

I seem to have a theory in my head: considering I live in London, going to LSE was not a big deal. It wasn't much hype to me compared to other people. If I was to actually move far away from London and go to somewhere like Birmingham or Liverpool I think I would have enjoyed university life a lot more. Its good that you seemed to get a circle of friends, that's what I was kind of expecting here as well. In my three years I've only met one decent guy, and he was a Londoner as well. Someone that I could actually relate to. I lived in halls for my first year and it was the worst 6 grand I ever spent in my life (notably because I live 45 minutes away from the university anyway) but also because living with these socially awkward, cliquey unoriginal morons was so cringey.

And yeah, international students are pretty bad, especially over here because we have more internationals than home students. The oriental Asians only befriend oriental Asians. They can't even speak English. God knows how they managed to get into the university in the first place, given that we don't do interviews and only personal statements? The mind boggles. Then you have the European post-graduate students, who are pretty much the same. There is no incentive for these international students to integrate with home students because the ratio of international students to home students is disproportionate. The worst international students, though, seem to be American students. **** me they are so annoying.

Original post by puella_optima
Your hopes have come true :frown: But I know some people (nice people) who have loved the LSE, surely your experience somewhere is subjective?


Everyone will have different experiences of the university. You may like it, but then again, you may be the type of person I find annoying in the first place :colondollar:
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Reply 12
Original post by little_tom
I seem to have a theory in my head: considering I live in London, going to LSE was not a big deal. It wasn't much hype to me compared to other people. If I was to actually move far away from London and go to somewhere like Birmingham or Liverpool I think I would have enjoyed university life a lot more. Its good that you seemed to get a circle of friends, that's what I was kind of expecting here as well. In my three years I've only met one decent guy, and he was a Londoner as well. Someone that I could actually relate to. I lived in halls for my first year and it was the worst 6 grand I ever spent in my life (notably because I live 45 minutes away from the university anyway) but also because living with these socially awkward, cliquey unoriginal morons was so cringey.

And yeah, international students are pretty bad, especially over here because we have more internationals than home students. The oriental Asians only befriend oriental Asians. They can't even speak English. God knows how they managed to get into the university in the first place, given that we don't do interviews and only personal statements? The mind boggles. Then you have the European post-graduate students, who are pretty much the same. There is no incentive for these international students to integrate with home students because the ratio of international students to home students is disproportionate. The worst international students, though, seem to be American students. **** me they are so annoying.



Everyone will have different experiences of the university. You may like it, but then again, you may be the type of person I find annoying in the first place :colondollar:

Yeah, the best thing I found was moving as far away from london as possible.

Na real talk, everyone bar 2 in my flat of 6 I liked in first year. She was cool, but the rest were ****ing annoying, one I could talk about football but was a deluded scouser fan(funny though), but anything else we didn't really click too much. One was just so introverted it was impossible to get a conversation with her, didn't help I'm fairly introverted, but I never could get a convo out of her. Final two, not worth a mention.

Although hearing uni stories, some of the guys I know are real dicks man. Just troublemakers, the type I didn't expect to see at uni. But your basic lads who on a night out try to save face and will pick fights for no reason. Though they're usually on ket/coke or overly drunk so go figure, but they're the type who can get you beaten up for no reason. They're actually decent guys, just that they like to save face and compete with each other.

International students. The chinese flatmates left egg shells on the floor for goodness sake, I spent the whole year eating pizza from dominoes and gained like 10kg because the kitchen was so dirty and they decide to cook for EVERYBODY and their dog every night,(they were good at cooking tbf but they took the piss). I live with a european couple currently, getting a convo from them is impossible; it's all professional stuff. I don't have the unwanted pleasure of meeting american students, I reckon the ones at LSE will be ***** as well.
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Reply 13
Original post by puella_optima
Your hopes have come true :frown: But I know some people (nice people) who have loved the LSE, surely your experience somewhere is subjective?

Subjective, but it depends on the type of person you are, for all we know, you could be the exact person he's talking about, I get his sentiments though. I've experienced similar anyway.
Reply 14
Original post by bammy jastard 27
Yeah, the best thing I found was moving as far away from london as possible.

Na real talk, everyone bar 2 in my flat of 6 I liked in first year. She was cool, but the rest were ****ing annoying, one I could talk about football but was a deluded scouser fan(funny though), but anything else we didn't really click too much. One was just so introverted it was impossible to get a conversation with her, didn't help I'm fairly introverted, but I never could get a convo out of her. Final two, not worth a mention.

Although hearing uni stories, some of the guys I know are real dicks man. Just troublemakers, the type I didn't expect to see at uni. But your basic lads who on a night out try to save face and will pick fights for no reason. Though they're usually on ket/coke or overly drunk so go figure, but they're the type who can get you beaten up for no reason. They're actually decent guys, just that they like to save face and compete with each other.

International students. The chinese flatmates left egg shells on the floor for goodness sake, I spent the whole year eating pizza from dominoes and gained like 10kg because the kitchen was so dirty and they decide to cook for EVERYBODY and their dog every night,(they were good at cooking tbf but they took the piss). I live with a european couple currently, getting a convo from them is impossible; it's all professional stuff. I don't have the unwanted pleasure of meeting american students, I reckon the ones at LSE will be ***** as well.

At least you could find someone you could talk to about football. No one here knows anything about football. Although once I saw an American guy in one of my classes with an Arsenal top so I sat next to him during a lecture and tried to talk to him about the season etc., turned out he didn't know **** all about the club and didn't even know the last result to our game. So I didn't sit next to him again.

I'm also an introvert, and I will try with people, but if I don't click with someone I'm not going to bother. I still talk to people when I'm at university, i.e. people before lecture and class, but its just about the course and nothing else. I would never hang out with those people outside of university, nor would I ever consider putting any sort of effort into them given the opportunity. They are not worth my precious time/effort.

Like I said though, fortunately I have a lot of friends in London, and a lot of people I've known since childhood/sixth form. etc are at London universities, so it doesn't both me much. One of my best friends is at London Met, I was going to meet up with him on the day so took the train to his university. The atmosphere in the library felt like Tiger Tiger, it was quite hilarious really. The people there were cool as well and knew how to have a conversation. I probably made more proper conversationsthere than my entire three years at LSE.

In my first year of halls we also had messy international students. Someone took a **** in the showers in my halls and the cleaners refused to clean it up. The **** was there for 6 weeks until it finally disappeared. We had to take a shower in the floor below during the time it was there lol.
I'm in my third year at LSE, occasionally lurk on TSR and see threads like this turn up every year just as offers start rolling in. I'm home student, I went to a state school and I'd like to think I'm a fairly normal, well adjusted person. I'm not here to discount OP's opinion - I empathise with him - but I think it's worth voicing my experience, which I'd suggest is balanced and fairly similar to that of the silent majority.


All things considered, LSE is challenging but also a pretty fun and interesting place from a social perspective.

It's mostly international and doesn't attract the usual uni crowd and it took me a bit of time to find my feet, but you're relentlessly forced to meet some of the most interesting and diverse people around. I've made some seriously perspective-broadening friends here and I would forward that to miss out on this you would need to actively avoid people that appeared different to you. I was really tempted to make a list of crazy anecdotes, but I don't really know where to start. Take my word for it: exciting nights out / events / projects / experiences are accessible whilst you're here. Some people are from very different places (and it might have taken more time to find commonalities as a result), but but that doesn't mean that great relationships can't follow. I don't want this to sound like a cheap sales pitch so I would add that LSE's small size (there are only a little over 1000 undergrad students in each year) and oppressive revision period can get tiresome.


I chose to go here instead of Durham or Bristol and I stand by my decision. TSR is often an aspirational and crushingly negative place, so I'd recommend any offer holders currently having a heart attack from reading this forum go to the post-offer open day and think about whether they'd like it here.
I don't go to LSE, but one of my friends has many mates who go there and pretty much all of them hold a similar view to you OP.
Reply 17
Original post by little_tom
At least you could find someone you could talk to about football. No one here knows anything about football. Although once I saw an American guy in one of my classes with an Arsenal top so I sat next to him during a lecture and tried to talk to him about the season etc., turned out he didn't know **** all about the club and didn't even know the last result to our game. So I didn't sit next to him again.

I'm also an introvert, and I will try with people, but if I don't click with someone I'm not going to bother. I still talk to people when I'm at university, i.e. people before lecture and class, but its just about the course and nothing else. I would never hang out with those people outside of university, nor would I ever consider putting any sort of effort into them given the opportunity. They are not worth my precious time/effort.

Like I said though, fortunately I have a lot of friends in London, and a lot of people I've known since childhood/sixth form. etc are at London universities, so it doesn't both me much. One of my best friends is at London Met, I was going to meet up with him on the day so took the train to his university. The atmosphere in the library felt like Tiger Tiger, it was quite hilarious really. The people there were cool as well and knew how to have a conversation. I probably made more proper conversationsthere than my entire three years at LSE.

In my first year of halls we also had messy international students. Someone took a **** in the showers in my halls and the cleaners refused to clean it up. The **** was there for 6 weeks until it finally disappeared. We had to take a shower in the floor below during the time it was there lol.

Yeah, I struggled originally to get friends. It was weird, I just got a few adds on FB, then made friends there from uni and going on nights out and got a decent amount of friends. :lol:

I'm not a popular person by any means, I'm known by majority of people on my course, but that's because of the group I hang out with anyway. I just got a selection of good friends, decent amount of acquaintances and avoided pissing off people I knew(bar a girl or two I tried it on :lol:)

I do feel however that there is such a pressure cooker environment in most of the higher end of unis. My uni due to their research focused work often ends up in the lecturers leaving you in the lurch and you focusing on your work a lot.

What exactly did you not like about the people there? Snobbery, being Rahs or is there some other underlying reason?
Reply 18
Original post by bammy jastard 27

What exactly did you not like about the people there? Snobbery, being Rahs or is there some other underlying reason?

A bit of everything really.

I mean at halls I didn't really like the people there, at all. Every undergraduate there acted like they hadn't touched alcohol/marijuana in their life, and when they finally got their hands on it, they felt like they were automatically the coolest people you've ever seen. The guys would all wear skinny jeans and Topman jumpers, and what made it worse is that the girls there actually liked it. Even though the girls were all 4/10 at the most.

There were a lot of upper-class people as well, snobbish ones. Contrary to what some people say, the majority of people here ARE upper class. Especially international students. They pay £15k a year for tuition fees, without student loans, so obviously they're rich. Everyone has an iPad/iPhone and in general no one is really bothered about money because they're swimming in it.

Then you have people with their political/social opinions. Every Tom, Dick and Harry wants to run for halls president or be elected into the Student's Union just so they can write it down on their CV. Its so pathetic.

Everyone wants to get into investment banking. I know at least 10-20 people with offers from Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, etc. etc. Its just so dull and repetitive and every conversation that seems to stem from a person you've just met is career oriented.

Then you have people like this guy...

https://twitter.com/JasonForLSE

I don't seem to have any similarities between the people here. No one that I can relate to or share a joke with, its like some sort of cultural barriers between people like me and them.
Original post by little_tom
A bit of everything really.

I mean at halls I didn't really like the people there, at all. Every undergraduate there acted like they hadn't touched alcohol/marijuana in their life, and when they finally got their hands on it, they felt like they were automatically the coolest people you've ever seen. The guys would all wear skinny jeans and Topman jumpers, and what made it worse is that the girls there actually liked it. Even though the girls were all 4/10 at the most.

There were a lot of upper-class people as well, snobbish ones. Contrary to what some people say, the majority of people here ARE upper class. Especially international students. They pay £15k a year for tuition fees, without student loans, so obviously they're rich. Everyone has an iPad/iPhone and in general no one is really bothered about money because they're swimming in it.

Then you have people with their political/social opinions. Every Tom, Dick and Harry wants to run for halls president or be elected into the Student's Union just so they can write it down on their CV. Its so pathetic.

Everyone wants to get into investment banking. I know at least 10-20 people with offers from Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, etc. etc. Its just so dull and repetitive and every conversation that seems to stem from a person you've just met is career oriented.

Then you have people like this guy...

https://twitter.com/JasonForLSE

I don't seem to have any similarities between the people here. No one that I can relate to or share a joke with, its like some sort of cultural barriers between people like me and them.


Second year student here and I completely hear you, good job I found a couple of good mates in my halls last year, don't have anyone I really connect with on my course so I don't go to lectures or uni really at all for that matter, if I could pick again I definitely would have taken up that UCL offer or maybe even the Imperial or Warwick one

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