UKIP accuse Ford of being being massive hypocrites and they're 100% right

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Ford said yesterday it could leave the UK if we left the EU
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/10572731/Ford-warns-it-would-reassess-UK-presence-if-country-left-EU.html

UKIP however point out that Ford closed down factories in the UK because the EU gave them millions to move operation to Turkey!!!

http://www.ukip.org/newsroom/news/1119-ford-s-steve-odell-accused-of-breathtaking-hypocrisy-over-eu-threats

Yet another company warns about Britain leaving the EU. UKIP are absolutely out of touch with the business world, their policies are disastrous for Britain's prosperity.

A plethora of other major businesses warn on UK leaving the EU. Can't you see the trend?

CBI Survey: http://www.cbi.org.uk/media-centre/press-releases/2013/09/8-out-of-10-firms-say-uk-must-stay-in-eu-cbi-yougov-survey/

Goldman Sachs: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/02/britain-europe-goldman-idUSL6N0GY30B20130902

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/dec/04/goldman-sachs-warns-london-exit-britain-eu

Nissan: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/ceo-warns-nissan-may-quit-uk-if-country-leaves-eu-8928347.html

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/nov/08/nissan-automotive-industry

http://cars.uk.msn.com/news/nissan-could-leave-uk-if-britain-leaves-eu

Siemens: http://www.wharf.co.uk/2013/12/siemens-could-pull-investment.html

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/11/24/336483/siemens-to-kill-investment-if-uk-exits-eu/

Honda: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/9796813/Hondas-UK-boss-warns-Britain-must-stay-at-heart-of-EU-as-it-cuts-800-jobs.html

http://www.southwestbusiness.co.uk/news/22072013090838-eu-exit-would-put-thousands-of-jobs-at-honda-in-swindon-at-risk--japan-warns-cameron/

BMW: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/9813184/Ford-and-BMW-warn-against-UK-exit-from-EU-as-David-Cameron-readies-historic-speech.html

http://uk.advfn.com/newspaper/tom-frew/15414/bmw-and-ford-warn-against-eu-exit

Jaguar Land Rover: http://www.accountancyage.com/aa/news/2238423/jaguar-land-rover-cfo-voices-ukeu-relationship-concern

http://www.financialdirector.co.uk/financial-director/news/2238550/jaguar-land-rover-cfo-voices-ukeu

Reply 41

Kutta

I never thought I would use this phrase:

Its not personal, its just business...

Reply 42

lucas13

the govt could use money saved from leaving the eu to bribe ford

Reply 43

Quady

Original post by lucas13

the govt could use money saved from leaving the eu to bribe ford

Will there be much left after the farmers have been pacified?

Reply 44

nulli tertius

Original post by Quady

Will there be much left after the farmers have been pacified?

If we left the EU we could fund the state pension for 3.5 weeks or the NHS for 4 weeks.

Reply 45

Quady

Original post by nulli tertius

If we left the EU we could fund the state pension for 3.5 weeks or the NHS for 4 weeks.

Or both for just less than a fortnight? Or pay for the rise int he cost of those things for one year?

Not sure if you think thats a lot or not...

Particularly after the farmers with pitchforks storm the hospitals anyway...

Reply 46

Joinedup

Original post by nulli tertius

This is what the Treaty of Rome said in 1957 so why, when you voted in 1975, did you think you were voting for something else?

Do you do this often? When you voted in the 2010 general election did you think you were voting for the Bolivian President or South Sudanese independence?

Reads like a load of non specific waffling feelgood claptrap tbh. who expects that sort of bumf to ever actually result in anything happening? - the UN produces tonnes of that sort of lovey dovey crap but hardly ever *does* anything.

the eu proved it's more than happy to ignore the spirit and the letter of it's treaties when it was ignoring the conditions of euro membership - since the powers that be are happy to ignore any inconvinient treaty would it have mattered if we'd had a referendum on the maastricht treaty?

Reply 47

Alfissti

Original post by Quady

Will the Queen be among those who storm hospitals with pitchforks? :biggrin:

Reply 48

Quady

Original post by Alfissti

Will the Queen be among those who storm hospitals with pitchforks? :biggrin:

Does she get money from the EU? :s-smilie:

Edit
If so, probably but with her sceptre....

(edited 10 years ago)

Reply 49

Alfissti

Original post by Quady

Does she get money from the EU? :s-smilie:

Edit
If so, probably but with her sceptre....

Isn't she one of the biggest benefactors of the CAP subsidies?

Reply 50

Quady

Original post by Alfissti

Isn't she one of the biggest benefactors of the CAP subsidies?

Hadn't thought of it until you suggest, probably is. :smile:

About 500k Euro, from a quick google

Reply 51

nulli tertius

Original post by Joinedup

It is a load of non-specific waffling feelgood claptrap but "I didn't think they would really do it" is hardly a defence. It is almost becoming a given by Europhobes that people were misled over the 1975 referendum but Enoch Powell and Peter Shore were calling it how it was. Here is the No campaign leaflet. Of course so were Ted Heath and Harold Wilson and what they were saying was equally true but they were accentuating the things Brits wanted to hear at the time. Politics was ever thus.

Reply 52

MagicNMedicine

UKIP simply don't understand business. Its these large wealth creators that create the "British jobs for British workers". If you drive them off shore then you drive the jobs away.

Reply 53

Quady

Original post by nulli tertius

Can't rep you but nice find.

Reply 54

lucas13

Original post by Quady

Will there be much left after the farmers have been pacified?

yes plenty as we wont have to subsidise french farmers only british ones

Reply 55

Quady

Original post by lucas13

yes plenty as we wont have to subsidise french farmers only british ones

So how much would there be?

Reply 56

lucas13

Original post by Quady

So how much would there be?

not sure but a lot

"EU is a Drain on British Economy
The EU is arguably a drain on the British economy. A huge amount of money given to the EU is allocated to bureaucracy and wasteful spending such as the Common Agricultural Policy (CAP). In 2006, a whopping 45% EU spending went towards the CAP, [[http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4407792.stm#howmuch]].
To put this in perspective, that's almost half EU spending allocated towards an industry that employs only 5% EU citizens and generates 1.6% GDP [[http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4407792.stm#howmuch]].

This is truly unneccessary and is unequally distributed, France reportedly benefitting immensely, while countries with very little agricultural sectors seeing few benefits, and yet expected to foot the bill for this wasteful policy"

Reply 57

Quady

Original post by lucas13

not sure but a lot

Well how much do we pay and what does the UK get in CAP?

Reply 58

lucas13

Original post by Quady

Well how much do we pay and what does the UK get in CAP?

i dont know the specific details, look it up

Reply 59

Rakas21

Original post by lucas13

yes plenty as we wont have to subsidise french farmers only british ones

It's highly unlikely that the Tories would seek to provide subsidies for British farmers on anything like the scale they do now. We'd still have to spend money on regional development though, it would be political suicide not to, especially since it does generate growth and jobs.