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Women Becoming the Richer Sex

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Reply 40
Original post by C_G
The article itself is clearly anti-feminist and this forum isn't exactly known for its feminist sympathies.


Sorry, I think you have misread the article and the thread entirely. Assuming you did actually read them.
That article left me so confused I know longer know what sex I am, how much I earn or where I am right now.
Reply 42
Original post by C_G
The article itself is clearly anti-feminist and this forum isn't exactly known for its feminist sympathies.


Probably because a lot of people don't like feminism. And I see absolutely nothing wrong with that.
I'm not reading all that, just for you to state a point lol.
Reply 44
Original post by Viva Emptiness
That article left me so confused I know longer know what sex I am, how much I earn or where I am right now.


What even is money? I don't even know any more!
Original post by Algorithm69
A study by Cambridge professor Simon Baron-Cohen. He found that the amount of testosterone a fetus was exposed to in the womb directly impacted on the learning development of the child. Male babies typically exhibit less eye contact and develop language skills later than females, but are much more interested in mechanisms and figuring out how things work. This theory also allows for overlap in the interests of the genders, as females can be exposed to large amounts of testosterone too, but not to the same extent as males. You will never see male/female parity when it comes to careers such as IT, physics, maths, engineering etc. In fact, the more gender freedom and economic development a country has, the more pronounced these differences become, because women have the freedom to chose a career that interests them, and not a career that will get them out of poverty.

What are your thoughts on studies like http://steinhardt.nyu.edu/scmsAdmin/uploads/006/923/Adolph,%20K.,%20Mondschein,%20E.%20R.,%20Tamis-LeMonda,%20C.,%20Journ.%20of%20Experimental%20Child%20Psych.,%202000.pdf looking at the effect of parental (in this case mothers) attitudes towards their babies based on gender?

I always find it quite odd that supposedly rational people fall into the correlation = causation assumption. When dealing with people it's extremely difficult to disaggregate the precise impact of genes, foetal experiences and the influence of society. We're a long way from unpicking all of these things well enough to point to the "right" answers.
Reply 46
Original post by Kiss
Probably because a lot of people don't like feminism. And I see absolutely nothing wrong with that.


I'd never have guessed...
Reply 47
Original post by Viva Emptiness
That article left me so confused I know longer know what sex I am, how much I earn or where I am right now.


Why? I don't really know what you mean, to be honest. It clearly states that some statistics claim that women earn more between the ages 22-29. Of course; earning money is one thing, keeping it is another. Women are found to be less likely to save money or invest it.

Original post by blairxoxo
I'm not reading all that, just for you to state a point lol.


What point?

Original post by redferry
What even is money? I don't even know any more!


I don't really know what you're trying to imply by this. You're not good sample data for ascertaining the richer sex because you're a student. I believe students are strapped regardless of gender.
Reply 48
Original post by Dark Horse
Why? I don't really know what you mean, to be honest. It clearly states that some statistics claim that women earn more between the ages 22-29. Of course; earning money is one thing, keeping it is another. Women are found to be less likely to save money or invest it.



What point?



I don't really know what you're trying to imply by this. You're not good sample data for ascertaining the richer sex because you're a student. I believe students are strapped regardless of gender.


I'm not a student :smile: as of September.
Reply 49
Original post by redferry
I'm not a student :smile: as of September.


So why did you quit your course?
Reply 50
Original post by Dark Horse
So why did you quit your course?


I graduated. MRes with distinction ta very much.
Original post by Dark Horse
Why? I don't really know what you mean, to be honest. It clearly states that some statistics claim that women earn more between the ages 22-29. Of course; earning money is one thing, keeping it is another. Women are found to be less likely to save money or invest it.



Original post by CJKay
This article left me dazed and confused over who was fighting for what.


Original post by Ade9000
Same here. My mind is doing somersaults.

I'll get the hang of this...


Original post by EllieC130
Me too? Was the woman arguing against feminism?


Original post by redferry
What even is money? I don't even know any more!


Obviously I wasn't the only one! It's not immediately apparent whether the author is pro- or anti- feminism (both of which frankly bore the crap out of me now), or what the actual point of the article is? Was it just to say that our hourly wage is better for a bit, but then drops off as we sacrifice our careers for children?

Not exactly ground-breaking If so...:confused:
Original post by Dark Horse
So why did you quit your course?


:rofl:
Reply 53
Original post by Viva Emptiness
Obviously I wasn't the only one! It's not immediately apparent whether the author is pro- or anti- feminism (both of which frankly bore the crap out of me now), or what the actual point of the article is? Was it just to say that our hourly wage is better for a bit, but then drops off as we sacrifice our careers for children?

Not exactly ground-breaking If so...:confused:


I just got that women were going to earn more than men which will ruin men by giving them all ED?
Original post by redferry
I just got that women were going to earn more than men which will ruin men by giving them all ED?


****, and I was going to ask for a raise this year as well. Better not now.
Reply 55
Original post by Viva Emptiness
Obviously I wasn't the only one! It's not immediately apparent whether the author is pro- or anti- feminism (both of which frankly bore the crap out of me now), or what the actual point of the article is? Was it just to say that our hourly wage is better for a bit, but then drops off as we sacrifice our careers for children?

Not exactly ground-breaking If so...:confused:


Yeah pretty much.

I don't know about the rules regarding maternity leave. From what I can glean; women can get extended paid leave to look after a child, but men can't.

It seems a little unfair. After all the woman in question might be smarter, more driven, more qualified and have more prospects than her partner; but she will have to take leave just because someone needs to look after their child. If maternity leave was an option for men then maybe they could decide between themselves who will be better off working and who will be better off parenting.
Reply 56
Original post by Viva Emptiness
****, and I was going to ask for a raise this year as well. Better not now.


you could always go for it and invest the extra in viagra.
Original post by Dark Horse
Yeah pretty much.

I don't know about the rules regarding maternity leave. From what I can glean; women can get extended paid leave to look after a child, but men can't.

It seems a little unfair. After all the woman in question might be smarter, more driven, more qualified and have more prospects than her partner; but she will have to take leave just because someone needs to look after their child. If maternity leave was an option for men then maybe they could decide between themselves who will be better off working and who will be better off parenting.


After a quick look on the Gov website, I am extremely confused (a common theme, apparently). A father can apparently take up to 26 weeks of paternity if his partner goes back to work after 20 weeks. In both cases the pay is something appalling like £136 a week (or 90% of earnings, whichever is LESS). No real incentive for anyone to take the maximum time off.
Reply 58
Original post by Viva Emptiness
****, and I was going to ask for a raise this year as well. Better not now.


Aye. So sexy that you prioritise pleasure over business.
Original post by Viva Emptiness
After a quick look on the Gov website, I am extremely confused (a common theme, apparently). A father can apparently take up to 26 weeks of paternity if his partner goes back to work after 20 weeks. In both cases the pay is something appalling like £136 a week (or 90% of earnings, whichever is LESS). No real incentive for anyone to take the maximum time off.

That's Statutory Maternity Pay (SMP) which is what employers HAVE to pay (and which employers are reimbursed by the government).

Many employers will offer pay above SMP (and so they're reimbursed for the first £136pw and cover the cost of the rest themselves) typically half pay, 90% pay or full pay for x number of weeks. Under recent (ish within the last few years) changes man can also claim this from their employer. This means people like my friend can have 6 months maternity leave on full pay, after which her partner took 3 months maternity pay on HIS full pay (as they work for different employers). As I understand it this has been extended so that it's closer to 12 months in total shared leave.

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