Why can't they cut benefits to lower tuition fees?

Those who claim they look for a job and struggle? Can sort of see, but every time I look there's cleaner jobs, care jobs, etc. Stop being so picky and take one!

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Yes that is an small anomaly but the government also subsidise alternative schemes for people in this educational age group who do not take A-levels. This includes apprenticeships or skills colleges. The majority of people in this country will benefit from some form of post GCSE educational subsidy even if they don't do A-levels.

Any further education past A-level is not a universal benefit to the majority of taxpayers - it does mean the UK as a whole from having more degree educated people but overall the vast majority of the benefit is provided to the subset of the population that go to university.



The NHS is a form of public medical insurance.

One way of thinking about it: the government effectively provides you with free medical insurance for life. You may be perfectly healthy and not use it, however it does not mean you should not have medical insurance.

Oh yeah, let's take money away from the people who need it to survive because university is way more important, huh?

I say cut military spending!

But isn't increasing the tuition fee counter-productive, since it's putting people off going into higher education. Sure, some people can find work, but employers want education or work experience, which school leavers don't have. Some may resort to benefits, which is just costing the UK more without giving any return whatsoever (like going to uni and getting a job).

It's almost as simple as: More people need benefits than need lower tuition fees.

I'm no expert on this, I have little political experience and so please tell me (nicely!) if I'm wrong.

But isn't increasing the tuition fee counter-productive, since it's putting people off going into higher education. Sure, some people can find work, but employers want education or work experience, which school leavers don't have. Some may resort to benefits, which is just costing the UK more without giving any return whatsoever (like going to uni and getting a job).

It kind of annoys me since I personally know people who earn their living from benefits lazily. I know people genuinely need them (particularly disabled), but even some of my extended family have luxuries (iPhone, Sky, 42", Gym memberships, TV) despite living on benefits. Meanwhile, I am going to university (Great!) but I have to pay £9000 a year. Yes, there is a loan, but I'm still going to have to eventually pay around £25000 throughout my life, which is about a year's salary/amount of work.

I don't mind paying a fee, but not a huge one like that. I'm trying to the right thing for both myself and the economy (study then work), and it's going to cost me to do so, while people on benefits are 'paid' for not doing either of them.

Any thoughts on this?

The fundamental purpose of benefits is good but the overall economy results in what you have described. When jobs pay the same as benefits this is what happens. When the children of poor families fail to get out of the cycle of income deprivation this is what happens. Some people say make them work for benefits but the work they do isn't needed lol.


3) Blame the employers for not paying you more. Do not blame people on benefits for claiming benefits.

Peace

The UK society has become accustomed to benefits for decades.
if you implement a decrease in the pay-outs, there will be an uprising.
and they will riot if you tell them that the reason for this new policy is because,
they want to lower tuition fees

UK is in a mess and will continue to be unless there is a change of government.
yes, this is the decline of the British empire.
i'll name you 10 inherent problems in the UK which will never be rectified.
and I'm not even British.

1) inefficient government ministries e.g Home Ministry.
repatriation of illegal immigrants are taking ages

2) abuse of National Health Service especially by foreigners.
they fly in, give birth and leave without paying.
they fly in, seek costly medical treatment and leave without paying.

3) lousy management of hospitals, recruitment of overseas doctors with dubious qualifications.
this results in botched operations and unnecessary loss of lives.
oh someone tell me why you need a 'NHS manager'

4) corruption & racism within the police force
do a google and you'll know.

5) abuse of privilege and wastage of funds by police crime commissioners.
these dud commissioners employ their family members, give them huge pay packets while salaries of police officers are reduced and officer are cut from their jobs.

6) shortage of food in food banks
there's just too many homeless, poor people in UK who're starving while politicians take long overseas holidays and parliament continues to sit in session for shorter and shorter days per annum.

7) high rates of teen pregnancy, sexually transmitted infections

8) rampant human trafficking where girls, women & children are brought into UK and made to prostitute themselves or become slaves

9) drastic cuts to legal aid. the poor won't have their day in court or seek justice they rightly deserve

10) strikes by teachers, police, lawyers are carried out. this affects daily operations.



This!

Rarely, if ever, is someone better off by claiming benefits instead of working, particularly after the introduction of Working Tax C edits. The amount of money a person is better off by may not be much, especially when things such as childcare costs are factored in (but, again, there's far more childcare support now than there has been), but it's certainly not the case that a significant number of people are worse off in employment.

With benefits at subsistence levels (if that) for most this is not surprising.

Because university is everything right enough.

After dropping out of university and becoming one of those people that is paid for not studying or working, I couldn't disagree more with this ridiculous thread. I feel sorry for you as it seems that you're one of those brainwashed people that thinks university is the only path to success.

I said the same as not worse than.

Solving this so called lazy benefit claimants issue is very simple. The labour market needs to increase pay and the amount of jobs available otherwise it will get worse. More people on benefits and in work benefits i.e WTC.

I'm no expert on this, I have little political experience and so please tell me (nicely!) if I'm wrong.

But isn't increasing the tuition fee counter-productive, since it's putting people off going into higher education. Sure, some people can find work, but employers want education or work experience, which school leavers don't have. Some may resort to benefits, which is just costing the UK more without giving any return whatsoever (like going to uni and getting a job).

It kind of annoys me since I personally know people who earn their living from benefits lazily. I know people genuinely need them (particularly disabled), but even some of my extended family have luxuries (iPhone, Sky, 42", Gym memberships, TV) despite living on benefits. Meanwhile, I am going to university (Great!) but I have to pay £9000 a year. Yes, there is a loan, but I'm still going to have to eventually pay around £25000 throughout my life, which is about a year's salary/amount of work.

I don't mind paying a fee, but not a huge one like that. I'm trying to the right thing for both myself and the economy (study then work), and it's going to cost me to do so, while people on benefits are 'paid' for not doing either of them.

Any thoughts on this?

Great in theory.

It's easy to make jobs. Government doesn't control the economy. That's why they do not see the simplicity of it...