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MSc after 2:2 in UG?

I am an International applicant from India, my UG score is 53%(BSc.IT). Please help me in finding good university where I meet the entry requirement and has the chances of getting an offer from them.
I don't have any work experience.
(edited 10 years ago)
Original post by iSn0w
I am an International applicant from India, my UG score is 53%(BSc.IT). Please help me in finding good university where I meet the entry requirement and has the chances of getting an offer from them.
I don't any work experience.


Hi,
I will try and be as helpful and I can while being honest (as I'm sure many others on here will try and ridicule you). Your degree isn't exceptional as it's a 2:2 and most places only accept 2:1's and firsts for grad studies. However, you could perhaps strengthen your application by doing a few work placements and perhaps a relevant short course at a university in the UK to display your interest in whatever course it is you hope to undertake postgraduate studies at and apply next year. Hope this helps!
(edited 10 years ago)
Reply 2
Original post by JustARealist
Hi,
I will try and be as helpful and I can while being honest (as I'm sure many others on here will try and ridicule you). Your degree isn't exceptional as it's a 2:2 and most places only accept 2:1's and firsts for grad studies. However, you could perhaps strengthen your application by doing a few work placements and perhaps a relevant short course at a university in the UK to display your interest in whatever course it is you hope to undertake postgraduate studies at and apply next year. Hope this helps!


First I'll try to get admission in MSc and improve my score. If I failed getting admission then I will definitely get some work experience and apply for MSc later.
Reply 3
Original post by iSn0w
I am an International applicant from India, my UG score is 53%(BSc.IT). Please help me in finding good university where I meet the entry requirement and has the chances of getting an offer from them.
I don't have any work experience.


I, I'm an admissions tutor at an established university, and I'd caution you about a few things:

First, if you have a three year degree, you will almost certainly have to do a pre-masters qualification of some form, and certainly if you want to go to an established UK university you will pretty much have to do that.

Second, presuming you do have a four-year degree, then the ranking of the institution, if you have a 2ii, will matter immeasurably. If you've been to (say) IIT or one of the leading State universities, you might be ok, but if at the other end, if from a private or deemed university, you will almost certainly not be accepted straight into an MSc programme at a good institution.

You will in any case require a strong IELTS/ToEFL score too, as this is a sensitive issue for many degrees in the UK, and is required for the new Visa regulations.

If all the above is ok, then it is key that you write a good personal statement. Most applications from overseas are clearly generic and not targetted at the institution. A few middling ones will mention module titles as a way of showing they mean this specific programme, but that is not that impressive either. Demonstrate what your career objectives are, emphasise the specific strengths and emphasis of the programme is that would help to achieve that, and show some evidence of personal commitment. As it is, we reject many overseas applications on that point, because it appears that the application is being sent to dozens of universities haphazardly, and no good university will respond well to that.

All the best,

George
Original post by gbuchanan
I, I'm an admissions tutor at an established university, and I'd caution you about a few things:

First, if you have a three year degree, you will almost certainly have to do a pre-masters qualification of some form, and certainly if you want to go to an established UK university you will pretty much have to do that.

Second, presuming you do have a four-year degree, then the ranking of the institution, if you have a 2ii, will matter immeasurably. If you've been to (say) IIT or one of the leading State universities, you might be ok, but if at the other end, if from a private or deemed university, you will almost certainly not be accepted straight into an MSc programme at a good institution.

You will in any case require a strong IELTS/ToEFL score too, as this is a sensitive issue for many degrees in the UK, and is required for the new Visa regulations.

If all the above is ok, then it is key that you write a good personal statement. Most applications from overseas are clearly generic and not targetted at the institution. A few middling ones will mention module titles as a way of showing they mean this specific programme, but that is not that impressive either. Demonstrate what your career objectives are, emphasise the specific strengths and emphasis of the programme is that would help to achieve that, and show some evidence of personal commitment. As it is, we reject many overseas applications on that point, because it appears that the application is being sent to dozens of universities haphazardly, and no good university will respond well to that.

All the best,

George


I'm not sure about India, but Hong Kong for example had three-year degrees for everybody (except for professional degrees), and that's considered the same as a typical four-year degree in America. People do get into master's programmes directly with that.
A 2:2 certainly is not the end of the world, and I'm sure you will have no problem securing an MSc offer from somewhere. But in order to 'find' you a programme, it is important for you to tell us in what field exactly are you planning to be in with the MSc. A lot of disciplines have their masters called MScs.

Then the second thing is how you define 'good universities', and if you are only look for British ones.

The University of Hong Kong, for example, sets the requirement for an MSc in computer science at a degree without mentioning class honours. Whilst you may not know HKU very well, it ranks No 10 globally in computer science, behind only The University of Oxford and The University of Cambridge against British schools.
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Original post by clh_hilary
A 2:2 certainly is not the end of the world, and I'm sure you will have no problem securing an MSc offer from somewhere. But in order to 'find' you a programme, it is important for you to tell us in what field exactly are you planning to be in with the MSc. A lot of disciplines have their masters called MScs.Then the second thing is how you define 'good universities', and if you are only look for British ones.The University of Hong Kong, for example, sets the requirement for an MSc in computer science at a degree without mentioning class honours. Whilst you may not know HKU very well, it ranks No 10 globally in computer science, behind only The University of Oxford and The University of Cambridge against British schools.
Thanks for your help. Btw i'm planning to do MSc in computing subject.
Reply 7
Original post by gbuchanan
I, I'm an admissions tutor at an established university, and I'd caution you about a few things:

First, if you have a three year degree, you will almost certainly have to do a pre-masters qualification of some form, and certainly if you want to go to an established UK university you will pretty much have to do that.

Second, presuming you do have a four-year degree, then the ranking of the institution, if you have a 2ii, will matter immeasurably. If you've been to (say) IIT or one of the leading State universities, you might be ok, but if at the other end, if from a private or deemed university, you will almost certainly not be accepted straight into an MSc programme at a good institution.

You will in any case require a strong IELTS/ToEFL score too, as this is a sensitive issue for many degrees in the UK, and is required for the new Visa regulations.

If all the above is ok, then it is key that you write a good personal statement. Most applications from overseas are clearly generic and not targetted at the institution. A few middling ones will mention module titles as a way of showing they mean this specific programme, but that is not that impressive either. Demonstrate what your career objectives are, emphasise the specific strengths and emphasis of the programme is that would help to achieve that, and show some evidence of personal commitment. As it is, we reject many overseas applications on that point, because it appears that the application is being sent to dozens of universities haphazardly, and no good university will respond well to that.

All the best,

George


I mailed my qualification to Stirling and Warwick University and they says that I am eligible for their course. So that means with 3-year degree we can do MS in UK.
(edited 10 years ago)
Original post by iSn0w
Thanks for your help. Btw i'm planning to do MSc in computing subject.


So the example was actually quite relevant.

But the question still stands: How do you define which universities are 'good'? And are you only going for British universities? It's certainly possible for you to get into a taught programme in a recognised institution.
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Original post by iSn0w
I mailed my qualification to Stirling and Warwick University and they says that I am eligible for their course. So that means with 3-year degree we can do MS in UK.


I can only presume you got your degree from a prestigious institution - UK Universities use a system called NARIC which provides guidance on degree quality, and there are very few cases where a three year BSc from India as equivalent to a UK Honours degree.

If you're past that hurdle, it'll be likely you can get offers elsewhere. What style of computer science do you want to study, or any particular special topics you are particularly interested in? Stirling and Warwick are very different in their strengths and emphasis.

George
Reply 10
Original post by gbuchanan
I can only presume you got your degree from a prestigious institution - UK Universities use a system called NARIC which provides guidance on degree quality, and there are very few cases where a three year BSc from India as equivalent to a UK Honours degree.

If you're past that hurdle, it'll be likely you can get offers elsewhere. What style of computer science do you want to study, or any particular special topics you are particularly interested in? Stirling and Warwick are very different in their strengths and emphasis.

George


My degree is from University of Mumbai.
And I want do MS in IT / Advance Computing / Software Engineering.
Reply 11
Original post by clh_hilary
So the example was actually quite relevant.

But the question still stands: How do you define which universities are 'good'? And are you only going for British universities? It's certainly possible for you to get into a taught programme in a recognised institution.


Any among one of the top university Subject wise. By top I don't mean oxford or Cambridge :-P I know its impossible to get admission there with such academics.

University which has good teaching, reputed and also has good placement. Most probably I'll be coming back to India and find job here but if the package over there is good then who know :biggrin:
Reply 12
OK, if that's your aim, then there are a few options, but I think it's worthwhile being careful about what sort of degree you use to achieve that goal.

Usually, in the UK if a degree is in "IT" is has little technical content, and is focussed on management or productivity of some form (depending a lot on the institution). On the other hand, CS is technically oriented, and will emphasise programming skills combined with technical details such as computability (if more theoretical), or (say) graphics rendering or mobile systems (as two more applied areas of specialism). Software engineering will emphasise general programming with strong process management and quality control.

I've attended TechFest at IIT a couple of times - and I wondered if your goal is primarily to get a senior industrial pretty quickly. My impression was more business/IT oriented MSc programmes were perceived as being more helpful, at least within India, to get good progression in your career. Is that true for you, or have you other plans?

George
Reply 13
^ After MSc I would like to find jobs related to programming as I am very much interested in it.

Which university shall I apply?
Reply 14
Original post by gbuchanan
OK, if that's your aim, then there are a few options, but I think it's worthwhile being careful about what sort of degree you use to achieve that goal.

Usually, in the UK if a degree is in "IT" is has little technical content, and is focussed on management or productivity of some form (depending a lot on the institution). On the other hand, CS is technically oriented, and will emphasise programming skills combined with technical details such as computability (if more theoretical), or (say) graphics rendering or mobile systems (as two more applied areas of specialism). Software engineering will emphasise general programming with strong process management and quality control.

I've attended TechFest at IIT a couple of times - and I wondered if your goal is primarily to get a senior industrial pretty quickly. My impression was more business/IT oriented MSc programmes were perceived as being more helpful, at least within India, to get good progression in your career. Is that true for you, or have you other plans?

George


Suggest me some good universities where I am eligible and has chance of getting an offer from them

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